[uucdigest]          Tuesday, April 1 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6269



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       [uuc] RE: Jack is down
       Re: Re: [uuc] Re: Garage Help
       Re: Re: [uuc] WOB, RANT:  I'm gonna kill me a redneck.
       [uuc] Estimating speeds using human nature
       [uuc] ABS question
       [uuc] Re: <E36> Draining coolant
       Re: [uuc] ABS question
       Re: [uuc] ABS question
       Re: [uuc] <OT> Collisions
       Re: [uuc] ABS question
       Re: [uuc] <OT> Collisions
       RE: [uuc] WANTED:  BMW Factory Instructions E30 A/C Installation

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 16:55:27 -0500
From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Jack is down

I stumbled across them for $149 at the Harbor Freight store in 
Nashville a couple of weeks ago while there for the BMW CCA Board 
meeting. (Hi Bill!) I bought one and USAirways shipped it back for 
me, free, as luggage. They had only the silver ones in this store.

I was underwhelmed when I opened it and it didn't work at first. It 
came with an "automatic bleeding" oil plug in a bag with instructions 
for installing it. So, rather than follow the procedure for bleeding 
the jack as laid out in the instructions (which included a correction 
for the inaccurate photo of the filler plug locations), I installed 
the new plug. Seems to work okay now. I've used it to rotate tires on 
our minivan. Takes a few more pumps than what I'm used to (and about 
double what the more expensive Harbor Freight 2-ton version with two 
cylinders needs), and a lot more effort (grunt) near the top---but 
it's okay. Felt like I was going to bend or snap the pump handle at 
one point. As stated by others, a bit touchy on the descent. It is 
light and a lot easier to lug around than my steel shop jacks. I'd 
suggest a hockey puck on the saddle pad to keep you from putting too 
much weight on the tabs of the aluminum cup.

In the latest catalog I recently received the silver jack (item 
47246-2CRC) is $179 on the cover labeled "Catalog 463-D" (vs. $199 
for colors) with a coupon for $5-off and free shipping. If you open 
to the next page (second cover labeled "Catalog 463") the same jack 
is listed for $169 (item 47246-4CRA) with colors $189. So seems like 
most of you can phone them and have one delivered to your door for a 
mere $164 without paying tax ($12 for me in TN) as the stores aren't 
technically the same company. Coupon code is #035-884-727.

I'd also check their web site. Sometimes marketing peculiarities with 
this company finds them in competition with themselves.

- -Phil Marx

>Robert Colburn asked:
>Does anyone have any experience with these jacks? I'm planning on buying
>one Saturday unless someone talks me out of it before then.
>Bob C.
>
>>Latest catalog from Harbor Freight Tool is headlined on front page with
>>their Aluminum floor jack at $169 . Lowest they've listed it as far as I
>  >can tell .
>>Have to pick it up from their retail stores to get that price ....
>>Gentlepersons..Start your jacking ....
>>
>>Bill & Shirley Proud,
>>Tennessee..winters, Seattle..summers
>  >Long commute in between .

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:51:01 -0600
From: "John Bunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] Re: Garage Help

> All walls are done in 3/8" ply.  Why? Convenience.  Stupid? Maybe.  Just
> don't burn shit near the walls. Main advanges are; no accidental holes and
> no looking for studs when you want to hang a hook or shelf, just screw on
> in.

It is hard to beat the convenience.  My garage is detached also, so it''s not a big 
deal - that said, fire is an angle I didn't think of when I installed it.   I was 
originally 
going to leave the walls bare, but protruding siding nails convinced me to do 
something, 
and a stack of leftover plywood was looking for a place to rest.   Great idea about
having fire extinguishers at hand though...

- -John

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:00:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [uuc] WOB, RANT:  I'm gonna kill me a redneck.

Dont'cha just love that?  You have to pay for mandatory liability insurance, than you 
have to pay extra so you're covered when the clown that hits you doesn't have the 
liability coverage *they're* required by law to have.  Seems to me we ought to cut out 
this nonsense and insure our own medical and property.  Then if the other guy chooses 
not to insure his medical and property that's his problem instead of ours.

Brian Daley

- -------Original Message-------
From: Ben White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 04/01/03 04:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] WOB, RANT:  I'm gonna kill me a redneck.

<snipped>
Fortunately my 'uninsured motorist' coverage kept me mostly whole.
                Ben White/Ocean Springs, MS

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:05:04 -0800
From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Estimating speeds using human nature

Engineers!  As a simple rule of thumb, if someone says they had their car at
110 mph last night beating a WRX on the freeway, you can reasonably assume
they >might< have hit a 100.  On the other hand, if they were involved in an
accident or got a speeding ticket and say they were going 5 to 10 mph over
the speed limit a safe assumption is that they were doing 10 to 20 over.
The greater elapsed time between the accident and the driver's estimate of
speed the closer to the speed limit he will be estimating.  If someone in an
accident says he had one drink it would probably be reasonable to hear "one
drink after another".

This isn't cynicism - I am heartened to think that most people really WANT
to tell the truth - it's just that their desire to be viewed in a favorable
light "colors" the telling.  You kinda have to factor that Ted Turner
colorization out to get closer to the black and white truth.  I suspect
resident lawyers and insurance adjusters have highly sophisticated internal
de-colorising tools.

Tom

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:15:58 -0800
From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] ABS question

If one tire is a different diameter from the other three does that screw up
the ability of ABS to operate?  For instance, if you were running a
tire/wheel combination on one corner that was x% different circumference
from the other three, would you get an ABS fault light, and would the ABS
then default to non-operative status, leaving you with working brakes but no
ABS?

Tom
'83 533i - no ABS, no clue what I'm talking about.

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:40:33 -0800 (PST)
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: <E36> Draining coolant

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Sean Cordone wrote:

> I made an incredible mess doing this on the 540. Post hoc, I came up w/
> a plan to leave the system sealed next time (cap, all hoses on), then
> have a rubber hose with about the right OD ready to jam into the threads
> when the plug comes out - then take the cap off. A rubber stopper with a
> big aperture in the middle and a hose attached would be slicker. Dunno -
> might help confine the mess a little. --SC

 FWIW, your local brewing supply place will have many different sizes
of stoppers and hose.  If you're in Mountain View / Los Altos CA,
there's a place called Fermentation Frenzy next to Armadillo Willy's
in the San Antonio / El Camino area.

- --
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro

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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:47:52 -0500
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] ABS question

I believe it would, but note that it is tire diameter that is important 
not *wheel* diameter. Brad had one different sized wheel with the same 
outer diameter (within reason) tire.

Ed

T WALROD wrote:

>If one tire is a different diameter from the other three does that screw up
>the ability of ABS to operate?  For instance, if you were running a
>tire/wheel combination on one corner that was x% different circumference
>from the other three, would you get an ABS fault light, and would the ABS
>then default to non-operative status, leaving you with working brakes but no
>ABS?
>
>Tom
>'83 533i - no ABS, no clue what I'm talking about.
>
>  
>

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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:09:42 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] ABS question

With a 4 channel ABS system, I don't think it would matter - would it?

Each wheel has its own channel - sensor to the computer to the controller,
so each wheel is checked and pulsed on its own.  With a 3 channel system
(both rear wheels on a single channel) then different size rears could be
a problem.

For sure DSC (anti-skid control) would go nuts with different diameter
tires :-)

Dennis
330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd

At 05:47 PM 04/01/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I believe it would, but note that it is tire diameter that is important 
>not *wheel* diameter. Brad had one different sized wheel with the same 
>outer diameter (within reason) tire.
>
>Ed
>
>T WALROD wrote:
>
>>If one tire is a different diameter from the other three does that screw up
>>the ability of ABS to operate?  For instance, if you were running a
>>tire/wheel combination on one corner that was x% different circumference
>>from the other three, would you get an ABS fault light, and would the ABS
>>then default to non-operative status, leaving you with working brakes but no
>>ABS?
>>
>>Tom
>>'83 533i - no ABS, no clue what I'm talking about.
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:10:51 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <OT> Collisions

I understood your point, just being pedantic :-).  Momentum is force x time.
Energy is force x distance.

Low speed collisions are mostly elastic.  High speed collisions are mostly
plastic.

Gary Derian

> Well,  relativistically they're not really distinct at all, but I
> suppose we know they weren't going fast enough for that to matter.
>
> I was talking about kinematics to illustrate the point, because it just
> involves the masses of the objects (Geo vs. Town Car). Energy
> dissipation is messy and complicated, and I know nothing about how those
> cars crumple. To be precise I meant "no momentum was transferred and no
> energy was dissipated by the second object".  Only then is all of the
> kinetic energy of the car in motion dissipated in that car on impact,
> and only then do you get a calibrated crumple zone. Again to illustrate,
> if you're unlucky enough to hit a giant steel ball, to a good
> approximation "no energy will be dissipated in the object hit", but some
> energy will be carried away in the momentum transfer.  So, both
> requirements are necessary.
>
> A far as speeds and skid marks go, this is a momentum problem since it's
> thoroughly inelastic. Why the focus on energy? You need detailed
> knowledge of the dissipation process for the accounting to work out.  --SC
>
> Gary Derian wrote:
>
> >Momentum and energy are distinctly different.  You meant to say that no
> >energy was dissipated by the object hit.
> >
> >
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:04:19 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] ABS question

Yes.  There is some tolerance for difference.  Too much and you get an
error.
Gary Derian



> If one tire is a different diameter from the other three does that screw
up
> the ability of ABS to operate?  For instance, if you were running a
> tire/wheel combination on one corner that was x% different circumference
> from the other three, would you get an ABS fault light, and would the ABS
> then default to non-operative status, leaving you with working brakes but
no
> ABS?
>
> Tom
> '83 533i - no ABS, no clue what I'm talking about.
>

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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:54:59 -0600
From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] <OT> Collisions

Hey, what a coincidence, me too ;) --SC

Gary Derian wrote:

>I understood your point, just being pedantic :-).  Momentum is force x time.
>Energy is force x distance.
>
>  
>

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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:28:00 -0600
From: "Richard Beaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] WANTED:  BMW Factory Instructions E30 A/C Installation

Gregory,

I have the EBA and the E30 is listed on the CD set. The problem is there are
about 15 different PNs listed under Air Conditioner. I could send them as
extracted PDF files, the problem is you have a Hotmail account. I don't know
if you have the bandwidth available for just one file @ 147 pages to
transfer. I'll give it a go and see what happens.

Rich

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gregory Bradbury
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] WANTED: BMW Factory Instructions E30 A/C Installation


To the lucky UUC subscribers in North America who won't have to do this.

My lucky find of last November, a 1990 325 touring with only 72.000 km and
very clean condition (relax, I live in Switzerland) is slowly growing
options it didn't have from first build (cruise, Motorsport dead pedal, UUC
shifter, rear headrests, interior mirror with map lights, etc.).

I am about to embark on a long weekend project, out of the challenge and
desire to keep a cool head, to add factory air conditioning.  Yes, many
BMW's of this vintage did NOT come with A/C, not a major problem depending
on where you live, but something appreciable to have.  To simplify the great
memory test (many parts have come from other Swiss donor cars from a local
yard), I am looking for a copy of the BMW factory installation instructions
(EBA or Einbauanleitung in German).

Any language is fine, copies are OK vs. originals.

Can anyone help?  My understanding is that the ETK/EBA CD's may not cover
the E30.

TIA,

Gregory in Geneva


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