[uucdigest]           Monday, June 9 2003           Volume 03 : Number 6439



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Re: Anyone up for a driver school?
       Re: [uuc] Putnam lodging
       RE: [uuc] Re: SMG II on 2004 325/330 ci? When?
       Re: [uuc] Putnam lodging
       RE: [uuc] Overnight Valve Cleaning as per EC
       [uuc] 1986 325es extra fuses ?? Identific'n 
       [uuc] Thanks re: <WTB> E30 3.73 LSD
       [uuc] DVD's
       RE: [uuc] Overnight Valve Cleaning as per EC
       [uuc] Re: Re: Anyone up for a driver school?
       Re: [uuc] Re: Anyone up for a driver school?
       [uuc] stuff for sale e30,e21,e12
       RE: [uuc] Performance Driving School
       Re: [uuc] Re: Anyone up for a driver school?

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 14:16:35 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Anyone up for a driver school?

Newer sedans have very good rollover protection built in.
Gary Derian

>
> FWIW, I'd be a little shy of pushing a car real hard that didn't have
> something over head.  A lot of guys will say you're crazy for doing these
in
> sedans w/out rollover protection.

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:27:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Putnam lodging

Dunno if any of you stay in Greencastle, but that's where I
went to college.  It's 10 min. from Putnam, north of
Cloverdale on 231.  The Walden is nice but pricey; there
are a couple of good B&Bs (Valentine house, and one on the
square, forget the name).  Also a couple of seedy motels at
the Dollar Inn level (Putnam Inn, College Inn).

If you're in Greencastle, go to Marvin's on College St.
north of campus and get a garlic cheeseburger and cheese
fries.  So it's 10 days off your life, so what?  It's worth
it.

tammer

- --- ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Turgeon wrote:
> 
> > The Holiday Inn is full.  Is the Ramada OK, or should
> > I look elsewhere, and if so, your recommendations
> > please.
> 
> The lodging formerly known as the Ramada (aka Quality
> Inn) is
> apparently full, leaving the Dollar Inn across the street
> as the
> remaining choice.
> 
> the Dollar Inn ain't the Ritz.  in fact it ain't the
> place where the
> people who clean the toliets for the people who clean the
> toilets
> in the Ritz stay,but it's cheap.  bring your own extra
> towels :-P
> 
> it may be worth calling the QI to see whether they have
> anything
> available, but a friend of mine called yesterday & they
> didn't have
> any space.
> 
> 
> Ben
> Quality Inn, already sharing the room
> 


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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:39:17 -0700
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Re: SMG II on 2004 325/330 ci? When?

Phil,

I recall reading that the rational for omiting the SMG on the PP was to keep it
from stealing sales of the M3.
No?

- -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 14:48:08 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Putnam lodging

Ben wrote:
>the Dollar Inn ain't the Ritz.  in fact it ain't the place where the
>people who clean the toliets for the people who clean the toilets
>in the Ritz stay,but it's cheap.  bring your own extra towels :-P

Yeah the towel story.  For Jack's first ever club race (Putnam 2001) I flew
from Seattle to Detroit (5 hrs) then a friend picked me up and we drove to
IN another 6 hrs to make it there by 6am on Sunday.  I wanted to wake
up/refresh (no cologne jokes Ben) so a quick shower would help but the
Dollar Inn would not let me have a towel unless I returned a wet/used one
first.  Sheesh.  Yeah you won't see the abundance of towels like most
hotels, probably two and so thin from the many washes (at least I hope they
wash them) they're probably just thrown into the drier and you get them
back!

Carlos (stayed at a Bed & Breakfast in Atlanta with little notes everywhere
instructing you where to place the used towels, what time to sit down for
breakfast, where to place the bedspread, etc, sheesh!)

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 12:01:26 -0700
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Overnight Valve Cleaning as per EC

Patrick,

Is there a piece missing from this procedure? Like draining the fluid? I
wouldn't want any fluid in my cylinder when starting the car.

- -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:29:38 -0400
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 1986 325es extra fuses ?? Identific'n 

>> 3) (Well I deserve an extra one !!) Why was there a carefully folded
>> terry-cloth hand towel hidden behind the rear number-plate ?

> You saturate the cloth behind the license plate with deer scent to fool 
> drug sniffing dogs.

Or maybe it was there to quiet a rattling plate...

Regards,

Rich

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 14:30:06 -0500
From: "Weimer, Matt J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Thanks re: <WTB> E30 3.73 LSD

Thanks to all who responded to my posting for the differential, I have
purchased a unit within driving distance to save shipping costs.

Matt Weimer
Hoosier Chapter

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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 14:49:11 -0500
From: "Thomas G. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] DVD's

Did anyone ever get a copy of the DVD for the Hire series II that was talked about 
here?

Tom

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:47:39 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] Overnight Valve Cleaning as per EC

I'll check the article tonight, I can't see how you would drain the fluid
from the cylinder except via siphon and I don't recall that being in the
procedure.


Phil



                                                                                       
                                                   
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Patrick,

Is there a piece missing from this procedure? Like draining the fluid? I
wouldn't want any fluid in my cylinder when starting the car.

- -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:29:18 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Re: Anyone up for a driver school?

on 6/9/03 1:16 PM, "Jeff K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm curious; do you all allow cabrios without rollbars participate? I'd love
> to do something like this but every last one I've seen in this area (CT,
> mostly at Lime Rock) requires an aftermarket rollbar on my cabrio, something
> there's no WAY I'm going to add on. I'm just curious if this is pervasive or
> I just happen to live in liabilitylawland.

BMW CCA National regs require convertibles to have an SCCA compliant
rollbar, and, I think, arm restraints.

Many individual Chapters are more restrictive. Ours, Hoosier, does not allow
open cars period. Partly this is because we aren't qualified and don't want
to get into the business of trying to determine whether a rollbar meets
those rules or not.

Neil
96 M3

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:44:03 -0400
From: "James Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Anyone up for a driver school?

Define "newer".  I've seen photos of an E36 smushed down to the door tops from
an incident at Summit Point.

Jim Moran
'88 M6

From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Newer sedans have very good rollover protection built in.
> Gary Derian
>
> >
> > FWIW, I'd be a little shy of pushing a car real hard that didn't have
> > something over head.  A lot of guys will say you're crazy for doing these
> in
> > sedans w/out rollover protection.
>
>

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:02:17 -0700
From: "Tim Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] stuff for sale e30,e21,e12

I have finally put up some of my stuff for sale:
E30 M3,325,318 ellipsod lights can be used in ALL E30 with or without
ellipsod. I am providing the adaptors.
E21 factory service manual
E12/e24 new spark plug wire set....

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid
=s14e30m3&sort=3&rows=25&since=-1&rd=1

Tim Ng
95 E36 M3 BzznM3
92 E30 325ic M-tech convetible 
91 E30 M3 street car
88 E30 M3 Track car
93 Chevy Blazer 2 dr. tow vehicle

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:15:05 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Performance Driving School

Makes commuting home each night a tad bit expensive ;-)

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Ochi
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] Performance Driving School


Well, Las Vegas is less than an hour-and-a-half away by plane...

Jim Ochi

At 08:08 AM 3/12/2003 -0800, Marco Romani wrote:
>There's a Derek Daly school near San Fran?
>
>Marco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of J. Ochi
>Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:40 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [uuc] Performance Driving School
>
>
>I thought that Derek Daly was the school that was supposed to do the most
>to make experienced racers faster...
>
>Jim Ochi
>
>At 08:52 PM 3/11/2003 -0800, Marco Romani wrote:
> >Funny,  my wife just did the same thing.  I'm going to do one near San
Fran
> >(since that's where I live).  Consensus around here is the Russell school
>at
> >Sears is better than the Laguna Seca school.  Mainly because you get more
> >seat time and the hot laps are graded and feedback is provide as a
session,
> >not after every lap.
> >
> >If you're new to racing then Skippy at LS may be better, I'm going to
take
> >the advanced class since I've been racing for a while, so the every lap
> >feedback just sounds annoying to me, therefore I'm going to Russell.
> >
> >Marco
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Bell
> >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:36 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [uuc] Performance Driving School
> >
> >
> >My wife has given me for my birthday a trip to the driving school of my
> >choice. I know , I know you're all jealous.  Well, she loves me!  So
which
> >one is the delemema.  I sure other bimmerheads on this list has attended
> >different schools. I'm on the west coast, so Lime Rock isn't on my list.
> >
> >Thanks everyone!
> >
> >Phil Bell
> >02 530i
> >San Diego Chapter

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 20:35:48 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Anyone up for a driver school?

Everything since 1974 for the US market has a roof crush strength
requirement, but not all cars are created equal.  Certainly a full race type
cage is better than not, and I didn't mean to claim that no cage is
necessary in a tin top car.

I would consider an E36 to be "newer".

The degree of roof strength goes along with the degree of restraint inside.
The stronger the roof, the firmer the belts you can use.

Its all a matter of degree.

Gary Derian


> Define "newer".  I've seen photos of an E36 smushed down to the door tops
from
> an incident at Summit Point.
>
> Jim Moran
> '88 M6
>
> From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Newer sedans have very good rollover protection built in.
> > Gary Derian
> >
> > >
> > > FWIW, I'd be a little shy of pushing a car real hard that didn't have
> > > something over head.  A lot of guys will say you're crazy for doing
these
> > in
> > > sedans w/out rollover protection.
> >
> >
>

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