[uucdigest]          Tuesday, June 10 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6440



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       RE: [uuc] Overnight Valve Cleaning as per EC
       [uuc] To store or not to store
       [uuc] Where to Purchase New Battery?
       [uuc] SRS LIGHT CAME ON ON MY M6...ANY IDEAS?
       [uuc] Re: DVD's
       [uuc] Survey - used lease car v. used "rental' car
       RE: [uuc] Survey - used lease car v. used "rental' car
       Re: [uuc] SRS LIGHT CAME ON ON MY M6...ANY IDEAS?
       Re: [uuc] To store or not to store
       RE: [uuc] To store or not to store

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:19:02 -0400
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Overnight Valve Cleaning as per EC

I think you will find it has drained nicely---into the oil pan.

David

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I'll check the article tonight, I can't see how you would drain the fluid
from the cylinder except via siphon and I don't recall that being in the
procedure.


Phil




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Patrick,

Is there a piece missing from this procedure? Like draining the fluid? I
wouldn't want any fluid in my cylinder when starting the car.

- -Kevin

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 20:33:00 -0500
From: "phil irby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] To store or not to store

Group,

I got word today I got a temp job I applied for that is an exchange
program my company has with Australia.  I'll be going to Brisbane for 6
months starting in October and returning 1st wk of April.  I would
appreciate any advice on what to do with my 92 E36 325i while I'm away.
I've considered just storing it but don't have access to a "real"
garage.  I have possible access to a carport that is closed on 3 sides
but open on the front.  It belongs to a neighbor so I'd have to leave
tires mounted and give a friend a key so he could move it if there's any
problem.  I've heard it's not good to leave tires mounted in one spot
for extended periods due to flat spots, etc.  Also have heard it's a
good idea to remove plugs and squirt oil in each cylinder to prevent
rust, then just loosely re-install the plugs.  I've had quite a few
offers from coworkers to keep my battery charged by driving it, but
wonder if I can trust them to care for my baby the way I would.  I've
also had some tell me just to rent a storage unit and put it in there,
but wonder about the security of that too.  Other facts:  98xxx miles on
the clock right now so will be over 100K by departure date.  I live in
north Florida so it can get down to sub-freezing for at least a few
weeks each winter.

Also would appreciate any advice fellow listers would have on places to
go, things to see, etc.  I've been told I get a compact rental for the
time I'm there.  One guy who went last year said he had a Holden
Commodore made by GM.  Sheesh......gonnna have to learn how to drive all
over too.....on the "other side".

Phil
92 E36/M50
Soon to be in the land down under

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:43:48 -0400
From: "Andrew Leong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Where to Purchase New Battery?

Hello all-- I'm looking to purchase a new battery for my E39 540 (MY '01).
Any suggestions on the type of battery and where to purchase?  Am I paying a
premium $ by purchasing a BMW battery?

Thanks in advance to all.  Cheers, andrew

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 18:49:41 -0700
From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] SRS LIGHT CAME ON ON MY M6...ANY IDEAS?

Group,

I just acquired an 88 M6 (US car) and the SRS light is on...Can someone give
me a garden-variety cause for this fault?  The car has been well maintained
and I'm not sure where to start looking.

Thanks!

Chris

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:09:54 -0400
From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: DVD's

You SHOULD be seeing one in the upcoming July Roundel. I don't think 
the Owner's Circle has them yet, either. BMW missed Roundel's 
deadline for June because the sleeves weren't printed in time. I can 
only assume we're getting them from the same batch as those that BMW 
will send out to registered owners and therefor theirs haven't been 
sent out yet, either. But then that's just a guess.

- -Phil

Tom Clark asked:
>Did anyone ever get a copy of the DVD for the Hire series II that 
>was talked about here?

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:07:48 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Survey - used lease car v. used "rental' car

Since I posted the article from the NY Times on the increasing popularity of
sales of former-lease cars, particularly through certified pre-owned
programs from the manufacturer, a fellow list member and I have had a
friendly, off-list debate over the merits of buying such a car (e.g.,
factory Certified-Pre-Owned, off-lease) versus buying one from a car rental
company, like Hertz or Avis.

Both cars would have followed the manufacturer's recommend maintenance
schedule, though we discussed whether manufacturers have lengthened
time/mileage between scheduled services to (a) reduce costs for those that
offer free scheduled maintenance and make the costs of ownership look better
in periodicals, or (b) because cars are better designed and built these
days.  I think it's probably a large portion of the latter with a good
leavening of the latter.

ASSUME that the off-lease car would have something like 50k miles on it,
being 3 years old, while the off-rental vehicle would have something like
20k miles on it, all put onto it in one year, and each car is priced
realistically; e.g., the price for each is a a good buy.

Here's the query -- which car is likely to have been treated better, and
which will likely, ultimately, to last longer?

His argument - "It is very easy to spot a car that has been flogged and most
are not.  20,000 miles of infrequent oil changes won't do much damage.
50,000 such miles very likely will.  Come on Dennis,  we both know that
manufacturers service interval recommendations are crafted to allow them to
advertise low maintenance costs.  Even a Kia will survive 50,000 miles
without showing too much wear, except for shocks and trim."

My argument - on average, rental cars are much more abused by hundreds of
drivers than one that's been leased to one person for three years.

Opinions?  Which would you prefer?  (again, assume that the prices for each
are "good deals")

vty,

- --Dennis

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 22:35:13 -0400
From: "Zidlicky, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Survey - used lease car v. used "rental' car

Much prefer the leased car for the following reasons:

(1) One owner (and possibly 1-2 drivers)
(2) Higher likihood that the miles are highway in nature
(3) Less likely to be abused
(4) Chance that you can get information on the owner and service interval of
the car from the dealership

Side note ... personally would prefer to buy from an original owner that
chose to purchase the car outright as opposed to a leased vehicle.  The car
is more likely to be pampered by a person forking over $30-50k in cash vs.
the guy who leases, with the latter is more likely to treat the car as just
another material good to be disposed of in 2-3 years.

Peter

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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 22:40:11 -0400
From: James Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] SRS LIGHT CAME ON ON MY M6...ANY IDEAS?

The PO possibly connected the power with the wheel off.  Unless you know somone
with a reset tool, it's a dealer procedure to reset the system.  Probably not a
bad idea 'cause then they can check for a fault.

Jim Moran
'88 M6 (light on all the time - could be the Momo)

From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Group,
>
> I just acquired an 88 M6 (US car) and the SRS light is on...Can someone give
> me a garden-variety cause for this fault?  The car has been well maintained
> and I'm not sure where to start looking.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
>

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 23:15:31 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] To store or not to store

6 months isn't that long.  Have your neighbor take the car out once a month
for 10 or 15 miles.

Gary Derian


> Group,
>
> I got word today I got a temp job I applied for that is an exchange
> program my company has with Australia.  I'll be going to Brisbane for 6
> months starting in October and returning 1st wk of April.  I would
> appreciate any advice on what to do with my 92 E36 325i while I'm away.
> I've considered just storing it but don't have access to a "real"
> garage.  I have possible access to a carport that is closed on 3 sides
> but open on the front.  It belongs to a neighbor so I'd have to leave
> tires mounted and give a friend a key so he could move it if there's any
> problem.  I've heard it's not good to leave tires mounted in one spot
> for extended periods due to flat spots, etc.  Also have heard it's a
> good idea to remove plugs and squirt oil in each cylinder to prevent
> rust, then just loosely re-install the plugs.  I've had quite a few
> offers from coworkers to keep my battery charged by driving it, but
> wonder if I can trust them to care for my baby the way I would.  I've
> also had some tell me just to rent a storage unit and put it in there,
> but wonder about the security of that too.  Other facts:  98xxx miles on
> the clock right now so will be over 100K by departure date.  I live in
> north Florida so it can get down to sub-freezing for at least a few
> weeks each winter.
>
> Also would appreciate any advice fellow listers would have on places to
> go, things to see, etc.  I've been told I get a compact rental for the
> time I'm there.  One guy who went last year said he had a Holden
> Commodore made by GM.  Sheesh......gonnna have to learn how to drive all
> over too.....on the "other side".
>
> Phil
> 92 E36/M50
> Soon to be in the land down under
>
>

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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:23:25 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] To store or not to store

I left a car out in the open for 6 months once when I was on "cruise" when I
was in the navy.  I disconnected the battery when I left, when I got back I
pulled the fuel pump fuse, reconnected the battery and cranked the car over
until there was  10-15 psi oil pressure.  Then I put the fuel pump fuse back
in and started the car.  Granted it was a Toyota but it wasn't any worse foe
the wear.  Only different thing I would do is add a fuel stabilizer.

Marco

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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] To store or not to store


6 months isn't that long.  Have your neighbor take the car out once a month
for 10 or 15 miles.

Gary Derian


> Group,
>
> I got word today I got a temp job I applied for that is an exchange
> program my company has with Australia.  I'll be going to Brisbane for 6
> months starting in October and returning 1st wk of April.  I would
> appreciate any advice on what to do with my 92 E36 325i while I'm away.
> I've considered just storing it but don't have access to a "real"
> garage.  I have possible access to a carport that is closed on 3 sides
> but open on the front.  It belongs to a neighbor so I'd have to leave
> tires mounted and give a friend a key so he could move it if there's any
> problem.  I've heard it's not good to leave tires mounted in one spot
> for extended periods due to flat spots, etc.  Also have heard it's a
> good idea to remove plugs and squirt oil in each cylinder to prevent
> rust, then just loosely re-install the plugs.  I've had quite a few
> offers from coworkers to keep my battery charged by driving it, but
> wonder if I can trust them to care for my baby the way I would.  I've
> also had some tell me just to rent a storage unit and put it in there,
> but wonder about the security of that too.  Other facts:  98xxx miles on
> the clock right now so will be over 100K by departure date.  I live in
> north Florida so it can get down to sub-freezing for at least a few
> weeks each winter.
>
> Also would appreciate any advice fellow listers would have on places to
> go, things to see, etc.  I've been told I get a compact rental for the
> time I'm there.  One guy who went last year said he had a Holden
> Commodore made by GM.  Sheesh......gonnna have to learn how to drive all
> over too.....on the "other side".
>
> Phil
> 92 E36/M50
> Soon to be in the land down under
>
>

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