[uucdigest] Wednesday, June 11 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6453
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Removing Parts from Rental Cars Re: [uuc] Push Starting an M5 RE: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation [uuc] 86 528e Fix or sell [uuc] Re: BMW rental in Munich RE: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation [uuc] Car theft ring busted in New Orleans ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:30:27 -0400 From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Removing Parts from Rental Cars I could see that kind of damage if he was towing an overly heavy load or abusing the vehicle offroad, but kind of doubt that's the case. Being that I like to screw with liars, here's what I'd do: Get them to give that list in writing. Take it to another dealer or independent shop to see if it still holds true. If not a quick letter with a copy of both estimates would likely result in some heads rolling...... A BMW dealer tried to do this to me years ago. I had just had new Eibach springs & Blistein sports shocks installed--like within a couple hundred miles. I took the car to the dealer for a new front hub in a pinch (whole other story of incompetence there). I knew it was a faulty wheel bearing & they new I knew. Still, they called me telling me that I needed an entirely new suspension, which would run me almost $5400 (I already owed $200 for this inspection that I didn't ask for). The guy told me, "yea, I'm surprised you even got here". I asked him if he'd done the hub--no, he didn't have the parts that 3 separate people had promised was there. Very angry I told him I was going to come get the car--to which he responded that he couldn't let the car leave the dealer as the suspension was in such bad shape it wasn't safe for me to drive--especially since the shocks were so badly failed!!!! I slammed down the phone & about five minutes later stormed into the service area, which at the time was perfectly visible to a packed Saturday afternoon sales floor. I walked in & demanded my keys--which he (and I have to admit much to my pleasure) refused. He told me the car wasn't safe. I yelled, "you obviously didn't even put this car on a lift, or you would have seen that the suspension you say isn't safe is new." His face dropped. I said, "there are brand new Yellow Bistein shocks in there, there's no way you could've missed that." The service writer: "bu...bu....bu...." Me: "and now you tell me that you did a $200 inspection I didn't ask for & try to hold my car hostage for $5400 worth of work it doesn't need? How many BMW owners do you rip off this way?" By now salespeople are scurying to get customers out of earshot & the service manager is running with my keys apologizing for the incident & that I can have me keys & go. That was a good 30k before I finally decided the suspension needed to be done. I called BMW NA about the whole thing, & they couldn't care less. The guy on the phone told me to quit wasting his time. I guess they condone ripping off customers. Maybe in your friend's case Toyota will care. Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:52 PM > To: BMW UUC List > Subject: [uuc] Removing Parts from Rental Cars > > > Someone posted about a mechanic that was busted for removing > good parts from > rental cars and it reminded me about an e-mail I just got > this week asking > if I have ever heard of a "dealer" removing good parts from a car. > > A guy I grew up with is a doctor and while he is no mechanic > he often jokes > that he knows more about cars than 99% of the doctors he > works with (most > doctors didn't take auto shop in high school). > > My friend's daily driver is an E430 but he also has a 2001 > 4Runner that > bought new to drive to Tahoe in the winter and take mountain > biking in the > summer. He recently brought the 4Runner in to the Toyota > dealer for an oil > change at 15,000 miles and told them to look it over for > anything else that > needed work. > > Toyota came back and said that his perfect condition 4Runner > that is garaged > every night and drives perfectly needs: > 4 New Shocks > 1 New Rear Differential > 1 New 5 Speed Transmission > 1 New Transfer Case > 1 New Main Seal > 1 New Water Pump > > He asked me if I thought that the Toyota dealer may be > pulling some kind of > warrantee scam on Toyota (and picked him since he was wearing surgical > scrubs and did not look like he knew a lot about cars). The > dealer is not > going to charge him anything for the work, but it seems strange that a > Toyota that had never been abused would need all the above > items at one > time. > > Kevin Kelly > BMW CCA 50039 > > P.S. Anyone that even thinks about buying a rental car is nuts... > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:40:41 -0400 From: Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Push Starting an M5 can we ask why you would need to push start it so often? Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:42 AM Subject: [uuc] Push Starting an M5 > I drop start my E28 M5 pretty frequently. I always park it down hill as the > oil pressure comes up faster this way when it starts. This makes drop > starting in 1st or 2nd gear an easy and obvious thing to do. I've also drop > started in reverse when oil-pressure-friendly parking is not available, and > in 4th or 5th when i've killed the motor or need to stop/start it for some > reason while at highway speeds ( no lectures, please :) > > Push starting the E28 on flat ground is also possible with just one person > (the driver, who starts behind the car and hops in after it starts rolling), > i usually use 2nd for this. > > I once drive a '85 Bronco II 4x4 700 miles with no starter. Careful parking > is the name of the game. The sketchy part is stopping for gas and never > killing the motor as you fill up. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:52:38 -0400 From: "Zidlicky, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation vacuum leaks? Peter - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation Hello everyone: I was wondering if anyone has had similar problems with their vehicles. My car is currently in the shop and they are trying to diagnose the problem. The symptoms are: 1) when starting cold- idle would be lower than usual, sometimes dip to around 500rpm, causing the car to shake, almost stalling. 2) after driving for a while (either highway or local) and coming to a stop, the idle would sometimes drop to or a bit under 500rpm, causing the car to shake, etc. Sometimes the car would stall if I don't keep the rpm up. 3) trying to accelerate from stopping, the car would hesitate and only move a little, until I hit the throttle hard enough, when it would regain "consciousness". Not fun when crossing streets where the cross traffic doesn't have to stop! 4) occasionally, the same hesitation would occur while the car is moving, between 2,000-2,500 rpm. Thank you in advance for reading! - -Michael Su This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:19:21 -0400 From: "BMWBITS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 86 528e Fix or sell Only 230k miles ? HOW can you even think of getting rid of her ?? Old BMWs NEVER die ...go at once to your local wrecking yard and buy good condition USED parts and refurbish her . Question ..WHY does it need a 'new driveshaft '? ..sure it isnt just the centre-bearing going bad ? There are places specialise in rebuilding driveshafts (driveline services in Portland Ore for one ..www.driveshafts.com/bmw )and usually have replacements in stock .They have replaceable/greaseable U-joints too !! Something BMW HATES you to know. You are kind-a stuck on the exhaust as it is apparently illegal for wrecking yards to sell used cat converters (they collect them and recycle --that way those expendy catalytic elements like platinum get recovered )..so you'll end up buying one elsewhere . JC Whitney used to sell cheap generics ..have local welder put it in for you . Word of advice ..Plan and Do the exh and driveline at same time ..they inhabit the same piece of real estate under the car so don�t do remove-replace twice Front control arms shouldn�t break the bank .lots of parts-houses stock them ..try http://www.topendperformance.com they seem to have good prices/delivery ....I ordered parts for my 'new' 238k mile 325e there yesterday (incl a driveline bearing !!) . Keep the old ones running!! Bill & Shirley Proud,34 yrs messing with BMWs ..old ones !! Tennessee..winters, Seattle..summers Long commute in between . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:21:42 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: BMW rental in Munich > What's the best source for rental of BMW's in > Munich? I flew into Dusseldorf a few times in 2000. Hertz had some 911s on the lot. I didn't have the balls to upgrade from my Golf TDI as I was on contract and didn't want my customer to see me driving a 911, even if I was paying the difference myself. The TDI went mile after mile on the Autobahn at 205kph. Flat on the floor. ===== David Kroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation Could be a fuel leak, too. My 528e did this before I did the 5-speed conversion. It wasn't transmission-related, but I replaced a lot of the fuel lines and vacuum hoses once I did the conversion. Definitely check for vacuum leaks. If you haven't done it in the past few years, replace all of the fuel lines under the hood, too. An afternoon job. Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '85 Euro 535i '87 528e <-- not much of a car anymore! www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- "Zidlicky, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > vacuum leaks? > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation > > > Hello everyone: > > I was wondering if anyone has had similar problems > with their vehicles. My > car is currently in the shop and they are trying to > diagnose the problem. > The > symptoms are: > > 1) when starting cold- idle would be lower than > usual, sometimes dip to > around 500rpm, causing the car to shake, almost > stalling. > 2) after driving for a while (either highway or > local) and coming to a stop, > > the idle would sometimes drop to or a bit under > 500rpm, causing the car to > shake, etc. Sometimes the car would stall if I > don't keep the rpm up. > 3) trying to accelerate from stopping, the car would > hesitate and only move > a > little, until I hit the throttle hard enough, when > it would regain > "consciousness". Not fun when crossing streets > where the cross traffic > doesn't have to > stop! > 4) occasionally, the same hesitation would occur > while the car is moving, > between 2,000-2,500 rpm. > > Thank you in advance for reading! > > -Michael Su > > This message is intended only for the use of the > individual or entity to which it is addressed, and > may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and exempt from disclosure under > applicable law. Any review, retransmission, > dissemination or other use of, or taking of any > action in reliance upon, this information by persons > or entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited. If you receive this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from all > computers. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:46:11 -0500 From: "Harmon Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Car theft ring busted in New Orleans NOPD arrested 4 perps and are looking for 2 more who had a very sophisticated operation. They would pick an upscale vehicle, preferably GM, get the VIN, then forge registration papers and a matching driver's license. (No big problem with a computer - hey, people use them to make $20 bills). Then to a GM dealership where they would order new keys, then steal the car. They specialized in stuff like Vettes/Escalades/loaded GMC pickups. Seems some GM dealerships weren't too inquiring with 20-something guys getting new keys. Harmon Fischer BMW CCA 1806 '998 M3 F '02 MINI Cooper S (in the body shop with a $7k prang, no, someone hiit me) ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6453 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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