[uucdigest]         Wednesday, June 11 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6455



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] wolverines in the engine bay
       [uuc] Performance Driving Schools (long)
       Re: [uuc] wolverines in the engine bay
       [uuc] RE: Rental vs. Lease acquisition
       [uuc] <E30> Wanted: Driver's door glass for 2-door
       [uuc] Looking for Dinan Cold Air Installation
       [uuc] <FS> OT.  1973 911

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:15:54 -0500
From: "w. b. gerard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] wolverines in the engine bay

Hey all--Recently my 89 535 has been idling very roughly and dying on 
start-up.  It sparks fine, then the tach will jump around, if I try to 
hold an RPM it will drop and frequently stall, and even when it's 
running strong, the engine will, for a while, "cough" (you could say 
f*rt) or sputter. The RPMs can drop unexpectedly during the first 10 
mintues or so of running, causing  the car to jerk forward.  Not the 
silky smooth 6 we know and love.

The situation could be worsening. Car even didn't want to restart 
yesterday after one of these episodes.

The engine had a top-end rebuild (great job by Continental in 
Gainesville, FL) and the IDV was replaced about 2 yrs ago.  I'd recently 
exerienced the hesitation issue (made famous here by Ron J, and way 
different from the current problem), but it had cleared up with
an IDV cleaning.

I'm thinking it's the trick fuel pressure regulator put in 7 yrs ago 
finally going bad, or possibly a fuel pump--this problem seem to appear 
after I'd gotten close to empty, 29 mi left on the readout (and as Duane 
once said, those things are not to be trusted).

Any ideas, on or off list, are greatly appreciated--

Blake Gerard
89 535/5 140k
96 850 (Volvo)

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:13:05 -0700
From: Donn Vickrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Performance Driving Schools (long)

This is the second attempt at posting the below - never made it the first
time.  Sorry if it is a little late for the topic, but hopefully it will
still be helpful.  Also, I hope that it does not somehow appear twice.

Since joining the list, I've been mostly lurking other than asking a few
quickie questions about BMWCCA club racing rules.  But, finally, there's a
topic - the recent thread on driving schools - where I think that I can add
som value.  I've done several commercial driving schools over the years, in
addition to instructing with SCCA, NASA, and a few other schools.  I also
wrote an article on performance driving for Sport Compact Car magazine
several years ago in case anyone is interested.  I could forward my last
Word version before the editors made their final changes.  Here are some
very brief summaries of my school experiences:

Bondurant Grand Prix Course:  My first school was the 4-day Bondurant
course.  I highly recommend it.  It is expensive (probably close to $3K
these days).  But the instruction is first rate.  And, after the course, I
became addicted to high performance driving - causing me to spend way too
much on racing...  

Derek Daly Advanced Driving School:  Did a one day at Derek Daly as part of
an SCCA SportsCar Magazine article on data acquisition.  At the time, they
were the only one's using data acquisition at their schools.  (Bondurant and
others now offer data acquisition.)  The staff was also first rate.  Highly
recommended.  (Could also forward that article.  But, it's really just
related to data acquisition and is now dated by a few years.)

For those that can't afford the commercial schools, here's some food for
thought.  

Bondurant SuperKart half day/Jim Hall 2-day Kart:  As part of a follow on to
the first SCC article, I was able to attend the Bondurant and Jim Hall II
karting schools.  (Also have a Word version of that article if anyone is
interested.)   Karting schools are much, much less expensive (couple hundred
$) and in many ways karts are more fun to drive.  But, they took a real toll
on my 40+ year old body.  Also, since karts use either centrifugal clutches,
or sequential gearboxes, they don't exactly translate to the experience you
will have driving your street car at speed (unless you have SMG... then the
sequential box karts are actually fairly close in a sense).

NASA School:  The instruction tends to be very good.  It is also very
inexpensive.  But it is BYOC (bring your own car).  The only thing that you
do not get at a NASA school is instruction pertaining specific racing
techniques, like heel-and-toe and trail braking.  (That said, there may be
some instructors with NASA, or some NASA chapters, that also try to
incorporate these techniques in their schools.)  The times I instructed for
NASA and others (where you ride with students), honestly, there wasn't
enough time to focus on these techniques.  With only 1-2 days on track,
you're doing good to get the student to be smooth and on line.

Autocross schools:  By far the cheapest and safest way to go.  Also, you'll
probably learn more about car control in an autocross school than you will
in a high speed-oriented school.  On the other hand, you get far less track
time.  Maybe 10-20 runs tops in a school.  That's about 10-20 minutes of
track time, versus 2-3 hours at a club school, and 18-24 hours at a
commercial school.  

SCCA Club Racing School:  This only makes sense if you want to race wheel to
wheel.  But, I've instructed a few times for the SCCA.  It's inexpensive,
but there's no instruction per se.  Your really there to demonstrate your
abilities to other licensed racers, and they sign off if they think you'd be
safe. 

My recommendation, if you can afford it, is to go take one of the commerical
driving schools.  The instruction is slightly better.  You'll get more track
time. They provide the car (which is properly prepared with roll cage, etc.)
and the safety equipment.  So, you're a little safer in their cars (unless
your car is similarly prepared).  Also, the wear and tear takes place on
their car, not yours.  Track time is pretty hard on a car, despite what some
people may say.   Tires and brakes, in particular, can be completely used up
in a few track days.  And if other parts of your car are going to fail soon,
they'll do so that much sooner on the track.  Debris will fly up and hit
your windshield and paint.  And, at every track event I've instructed at, at
least one car has suffered a failure that was terminal for the day... i.e.,
the driver got no more seat time because the car was disabled beyond repair
at the track.

As for which commercial school, I would venture to guess that all are
roughly equivalent in terms of their quality. So, I'd either pick one close
to home, or pick one in a location that you'd like to visit. Or, pick one
held at a historic track that you've always wanted to drive/see.  Once
you've attended the commercial school, continue your education at BMWCCA,
NASA and other high performance driving events/schools.  Like most skills,
you must use it or loose it.

If you can't afford the commercial school, try NASA, BMWCCA, PCA, etc.  In
my opinion, the instruction is generally 90% as good at about 1/10 the price
(ignoring the safety and maintenance issues discussed above).  And, over
time, you can pick up the techniques such as heel-and-toe and trail braking
over time, without going to the commercial school.  

If you are over 40 like me and have a few days to recover (and don't mind
pain), or are under 30, try a kart school.  I still think that the karting
schools were probably the most fun.  But, it's not for everyone.  (As an
example, a good friend who I've raced with for years broke a rib in an
endurance kart race - simply from the g-forces and duration of the event.
No contract involved at all...)    

Yours in speed,

Donn Vickrey
Scottsdale, AZ
1998 IS/T2 M3
2002 996TT
1985 SCCA SoPac Spec RX7 (for sale)

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:35:37 -0700
From: "JSN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] wolverines in the engine bay

Cold run issue?

Check to make sure the cold run sensor on top of the engine is reporting
correctly.  There are two sensors in the thermostat housing.  One is
responsible to inform the ECU the car is cold and richen the mixture
accordingly; the other is for the temp sensor.  This cold run sensor may be
fubar-ed.

A bentley's manual can tell you which sensor is what and how to check.

Jeff
90 535i


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "w. b. gerard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:15 AM
Subject: [uuc] wolverines in the engine bay


>
> Hey all--Recently my 89 535 has been idling very roughly and dying on
> start-up.  It sparks fine, then the tach will jump around, if I try to
> hold an RPM it will drop and frequently stall, and even when it's
> running strong, the engine will, for a while, "cough" (you could say
> f*rt) or sputter. The RPMs can drop unexpectedly during the first 10
> mintues or so of running, causing  the car to jerk forward.  Not the
> silky smooth 6 we know and love.
>
> The situation could be worsening. Car even didn't want to restart
> yesterday after one of these episodes.
>
> The engine had a top-end rebuild (great job by Continental in
> Gainesville, FL) and the IDV was replaced about 2 yrs ago.  I'd recently
> exerienced the hesitation issue (made famous here by Ron J, and way
> different from the current problem), but it had cleared up with
> an IDV cleaning.
>
> I'm thinking it's the trick fuel pressure regulator put in 7 yrs ago
> finally going bad, or possibly a fuel pump--this problem seem to appear
> after I'd gotten close to empty, 29 mi left on the readout (and as Duane
> once said, those things are not to be trusted).
>
> Any ideas, on or off list, are greatly appreciated--
>
> Blake Gerard
> 89 535/5 140k
> 96 850 (Volvo)
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:03:04 -0700
From: "KKiely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: Rental vs. Lease acquisition

Personally, I just don't get the mindset that allows one to trash or abuse a
piece of property that is not ones own. It takes time and energy to produce any
complex machine. To abuse it to the point of breakage is such a waste. In any
event I try to treat another's property as if it were my own.

- -Kevin

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:26:10 +0000
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E30> Wanted: Driver's door glass for 2-door

Gruppe:

I an effort to save money by replacing the lock cyclinder myself on my E30, 
I managed to break the glass in the driver's door. Any racers in the NJ area 
have one lying around that they are not using. I called a local glass place 
and they wanted $180 for the glass without installation.

Gilbert

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:29:08 -0700
From: Donn Vickrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Looking for Dinan Cold Air Installation

> > Does anyone have the instructions for the Dinan Cold Air intake 
> > system for and E36 M3. I found one for sale, but it does not have 
> > the instructions. Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Dave 95 M3

Hi Dave -

I don't have the install instructions.  But, it's pretty simple.  Remove old
air box, which involves removing the clips from the old box to the AFM.
Then removing a couple of bolts.  The new intake just bolts right on.  

I ran the Dinan on my first M3 a few years ago.  It's kind of loud, and does
not have a heat shield to keep out the hot air from the radiator/engine bay.
Recently bought and installed a Comforti air intake and it seems to be a
much better design.  Has a nice shield that completely isolates the intake
from the hot, underhood air.  And draws air in from the kidney grill.
Pretty nice setup.  One of the better pieces I've seen.

Donn Vickrey
98 IS/T2 M3
02 996TT
03 Navigator tow vehicle and tot hauler

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:49:38 -0400
From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <FS> OT.  1973 911

Hi All,

Sorry for the bandwidth use, however I am thinking about selling my 73
Porsche 911.  It was a project car that I have been working on, that is
almost complete (needs paint, and lights to be reinstalled)

The car has a 2.7 liter engine from a 77 911 in it, along with SC flares,
Black Mesh 16" wheels with polished lips, Seats from an 82 911, absolutely
no rust, extra light housings, extra hood, also includes a Turbo tail that
is not installed on the car.  The car is Red, and starts up first crank.

I sold my IT company about a year ago, and returned to University to get a
law degree, and have absolutely no time for it, or any extra money, so I am
putting it up on the block, which I am reluctant to do, since I did most of
the work on the car, starting with a bare rolling chassis.  Lots of
sentimental work done by me.

Perfect car to convert to a RS replica (what I was going to do with it)
Asking $9000.00 US, could easily be resold for much more after paint.

Please reply personally if you or anyone else you know is interested.  I
havent shot any pics of it with my digital yet.  Oh, I forgot to say that it
comes with a new car cover as well.

Cheers
Ron J
Toronto, Canada
85 535i
73 911

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