[uucdigest]         Wednesday, June 11 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6456



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] <OT> Mini Cooper Test Drive Event in Toronto.. 
       Re: [uuc] Car theft ring busted in New Orleans
       [uuc] <FS> '99 M3 White Tan Must sell!
       [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation
       Re: [uuc] Re:  HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME?
       Re: [uuc] Re: BMW rental in Munich
       Re: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation
       Re: [uuc] Re:  HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME?
       Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich
       Re: [uuc] [E34] M5 won't start
       RE: [uuc] Removing Parts from Rental Cars
       [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6453
       Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:28:37 -0400
From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <OT> Mini Cooper Test Drive Event in Toronto.. 

Hi All,

I just registered for this cool event, obviously for selling more Mini
Coopers than anything, but what the heck, I may as well take advantage.

Its Called Test Fly a Mini Event.  and its being held at an old Airforce
Base here in Toronto called Downsview.  All you have to do is go to the
Website and register for the event and you get an hour in the car on a
professionally set up course to put it through the paces.  Choice between
the Cooper and the Cooper S.

Anyone else in Toronto interested just go to www.mini.ca and register..

Cheers
Ron J
Toronto Canada
85 535i
73 911s 2.7 (for sale)

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:05:32 -0500
From: "Ben White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Car theft ring busted in New Orleans

Harmon,
   Sorry to learn about the damage to the Mini.  You weren't hurt?  This
place seems to be crawling with Minis.  I seem to see a new one every week.
    Best,
          Ben

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:24:41 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] <FS> '99 M3 White Tan Must sell!

I need to sell my '99 White/Tan M3, 5spd., Sunroof, Loaded, w/ 43K miles 
right away. So someone is going to get the deal of the century because I 
"have" to sell this car this month. I asking a realistic $26500. Remember 
this car has only 43K. It's immaculate, Southern car, garaged, waxed, etc. 
Please call or contact me as soon as possible. I'm very motivated. Thanks 
for the BW.

TIA

Evan Evans
President
Smoky Mountain
BMW CCA # 45756
Knoxville, TN 37919
865-694-3088
865-603-3088

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation

Michael:

Next time, don't go to a shop; Use Brett Anderson's
Pay-per-Incident service at
http://www.koalamotorsport.com.  I used them and . . .

Just fixed the SAME on my 9/88 325 iC.  Look under the
intake plenum for a circular bayonet connector.  Open
it up.  May be tough as the pins and sockets are
corroded together.  Clean with contact cleaner
once-twice, slide pins in sockets to dislodge
corrosion, clean again.  Assemble with conducting
grease (not di-electric).

Report back!

Neil Deshpande

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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:38:18 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation

Hello everyone:

I was wondering if anyone has had similar problems
with their vehicles.  
My 
car is currently in the shop and they are trying to
diagnose the 
problem.  The 
symptoms are:

1) when starting cold- idle would be lower than usual,
sometimes dip to 
around 500rpm, causing the car to shake, almost
stalling.
2) after driving for a while (either highway or local)
and coming to a 
stop, 
the idle would sometimes drop to or a bit under
500rpm, causing the car 
to 
shake, etc.  Sometimes the car would stall if I don't
keep the rpm up.
3) trying to accelerate from stopping, the car would
hesitate and only 
move a 
little, until I hit the throttle hard enough, when it
would regain 
"consciousness".  Not fun when crossing streets where
the cross traffic 
doesn't have to 
stop!
4) occasionally, the same hesitation would occur while
the car is 
moving, 
between 2,000-2,500 rpm.

Thank you in advance for reading!

- - -Michael Su

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:07:12 -0400
From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re:  HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME?

> Chris, the E31/E34 wheels will be hubcentric on your E24.  But I'm not
sure
> what your 75/72mm measurememts represent.  That is almost 3 inches.  It is
> too much to be offset, and too little to be the wheel's rim width.
>

I think that he is speaking of the different hub size for the E39.

Dean

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:18:03 +0200 (CEST)
From: John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: BMW rental in Munich

On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, david kroth wrote:

> I flew into Dusseldorf a few times in 2000.
> Hertz had some 911s on the lot.  I didn't have
> the balls to upgrade from my Golf TDI as I was
> on contract and didn't want my customer to see
> me driving a 911, even if I was paying the
> difference myself....

Why not?  There were some murmurs amongst my (German) colleagues when
I bought my first 3er which finally ceased when I convinced them I was
not putting on airs. Americans just really like BMWs.  Once they
recollected that, they got positively enthusiastic. :) I bet the
similar recollecting would help explain why an American colleague is
driving a Porsche.

> The TDI went mile after mile on the Autobahn
> at 205kph.  Flat on the floor.

You don't mention why your foot remained glued to the floor: that most
of the morning went by as the TDI spooled up from 140 km/h. :)

 -John
 '96 318is

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:14:09 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation

I think most any grease would work.  A conducting grease could spread around
and cause strange current flows among the terminals.

As long as the pins make metal to metal contact with the sockets, a decent
grease that doesn't necessarily conduct is a good thing.  It keeps the
contacts from corroding.  I use silicone grease, specifically Dow Corning
111, which does a great job of repelling water.

Gary Derian


> Michael:
>
> Next time, don't go to a shop; Use Brett Anderson's
> Pay-per-Incident service at
> http://www.koalamotorsport.com.  I used them and . . .
>
> Just fixed the SAME on my 9/88 325 iC.  Look under the
> intake plenum for a circular bayonet connector.  Open
> it up.  May be tough as the pins and sockets are
> corroded together.  Clean with contact cleaner
> once-twice, slide pins in sockets to dislodge
> corrosion, clean again.  Assemble with conducting
> grease (not di-electric).
>
> Report back!
>
> Neil Deshpande
>
> ***
>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:38:18 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation
>
> Hello everyone:
>
> I was wondering if anyone has had similar problems
> with their vehicles.
> My
> car is currently in the shop and they are trying to
> diagnose the
> problem.  The
> symptoms are:
>
> 1) when starting cold- idle would be lower than usual,
> sometimes dip to
> around 500rpm, causing the car to shake, almost
> stalling.
> 2) after driving for a while (either highway or local)
> and coming to a
> stop,
> the idle would sometimes drop to or a bit under
> 500rpm, causing the car
> to
> shake, etc.  Sometimes the car would stall if I don't
> keep the rpm up.
> 3) trying to accelerate from stopping, the car would
> hesitate and only
> move a
> little, until I hit the throttle hard enough, when it
> would regain
> "consciousness".  Not fun when crossing streets where
> the cross traffic
> doesn't have to
> stop!
> 4) occasionally, the same hesitation would occur while
> the car is
> moving,
> between 2,000-2,500 rpm.
>
> Thank you in advance for reading!
>
> - -Michael Su
>

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:59:27 -0400
From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re:  HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME?

I know for a fact that the E39 hub is the same as an E24 or an E28.  I have
put several set's of E39 sport wheels on M5's and M6's.

Kirk A. Gilchrist
EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair
8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:33:50 +0100
From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich

Michael Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

"You might want to keep an open mind about renting a BMW. I have had a lot
of
fun driving cars we would never see in the States such as Peugeot, Renault,
a diesel Golf 6sp (pulls like a train), but especially Alfa."

Neil, I would tend to agree with Mike.  Not only will a powerful BMW cost an
arm and a leg to hire, but hiring what (for you) would be a "regular" BMW
seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity.  Also consider the fuel bills -
two full tanks in e.g. an M5 will cost you around $160, and that will get
you maybe 500 miles unless you potter everywhere in sixth at 120 km/h.

If you really want a BMW, try any of the diesels, which will be more
commonly available.  All of them (320d, 330d, 730d, new 530d) are quicker in
every discipline than their petrol counterparts, with equivalent power and
100-150 lb-ft more torque available, and may update your opinions of diesels
in passenger cars.  (Scott :))

Andy T
'03 318i 2.0

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:43:21 +0100
From: "Andrew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] [E34] M5 won't start

Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes about Mike's non-starting M5:

"Mike, it sounds like a bad starter motor solenoid.  The starter motor spins
(whirrrr), but does not engage the flywheel.  Starter motor failure would
not set a check engine fault.  Tell your wife to push-start it.  How
many/how big are the kids?    :^)"

>When she turns the key she hears a whiring sound, but (from what I could
>hear over the phone) it doesn't sound like it's cranking over. Could it be
>the timing chain? I had her read me the Engine Codes, and we got a 1444
>(no failure).

This happened to me when my then-2-year-old 318is turned over sounding for
all the world like both timing chains had snapped.  The motor made a grating
whirring sound, without the traditional ch-ch-ch-ch compression noise.  It
turned out to be a weak battery, which according to the recovery tech'
allowed the motor to turn, but not the solenoid to engage the motor. (I
never figured this out completely.)   Your M5 will have much more
wear'n'tear on it than my reluctant 2-year-old 3er did at the time, so a bad
solenoid is a real possibility, but try it with a full battery first.

Andy T
'03 318i 2.0

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:12:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Removing Parts from Rental Cars

There are other ways of removing parts from rental cars.  I've talked to a
former Ford engineer who said that they'd rent interesting new cars and
take them apart to see how they worked.  There were often a few parts left
over after reassembly.  They didn't have a service manual or anything to
go by. 

- --Andre

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:49:24 -0700
From: "Matt Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #6453

Sure, but I thought it was pretty clear in the message why I do it - I park
the car on an incline as often as possible, so what reason is there not  to
?  Save wear on the starter and the ring gear, in my estimation.

Honestly i USUALLY start it with the starter.  But i drop start the car
often enough just out of whim that i stay pretty current at it :)

If you're making a jab at the "reliability" of the E28 M5, theres no need to
be discreet about it, either.  There are plenty of annoyances on a 15 year
old M car :)

> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:40:41 -0400
> From: Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [uuc] Push Starting an M5
>
> can we ask why you would need to push start it so often?
>

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:36:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich

Well, good points, but I will be somewhat limited by
my options.  So far, sixt.com has shown a 320i for
about $330 a week, which I don't think is too bad.

Bottom line, however, is that I'm not paying for the
rental or for gas, so I have almost no concern for
those matters.  And while it may be a "normal" BMW to
me, the opportunity to pilot it sans speed limiter,
and more importantly, sans speed limit, will make it
quite an extraordinary experience.  Plus, I'm
comfortable driving a 3er, and I want to be as
comfortable as possible for my first lap 'round the
Ring... :-)  <Immeasurable grin>

Diesel wouldn't be horrible, though.

Regards,

Neil

- --- Andrew Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> "You might want to keep an open mind about renting a
> BMW. I have had a lot
> of
> fun driving cars we would never see in the States
> such as Peugeot, Renault,
> a diesel Golf 6sp (pulls like a train), but
> especially Alfa."
> 
> Neil, I would tend to agree with Mike.  Not only
> will a powerful BMW cost an
> arm and a leg to hire, but hiring what (for you)
> would be a "regular" BMW
> seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity.  Also
> consider the fuel bills -
> two full tanks in e.g. an M5 will cost you around
> $160, and that will get
> you maybe 500 miles unless you potter everywhere in
> sixth at 120 km/h.
> 
> If you really want a BMW, try any of the diesels,
> which will be more
> commonly available.  All of them (320d, 330d, 730d,
> new 530d) are quicker in
> every discipline than their petrol counterparts,
> with equivalent power and
> 100-150 lb-ft more torque available, and may update
> your opinions of diesels
> in passenger cars.  (Scott :))
> 
> Andy T
> '03 318i 2.0
> 
> 
> 


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