[uucdigest] Thursday, June 12 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6457
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] RE: Rental vs. Lease acquisition [uuc] Removing Parts from Rental Cars Re: [uuc] Re: HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME? [uuc] Re: HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME? [uuc] UUC List etiquette question [uuc] Note to self.. Check to address next time. Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich, plus info on Nurburgring? [uuc] Re: BMW rental in Munich [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6456 RE: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich, plus info on Nurburgring? [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation [uuc] RE: Autobahn...The Ring [uuc] Fw: honda -OT Re: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation [uuc] [E36 M3] Meltdown Re: [uuc] RE: Autobahn...The Ring ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:55:36 -0700 From: "T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Rental vs. Lease acquisition - - -Kevin said: Personally, I just don't get the mindset that allows one to trash or abuse a piece of property that is not ones own. It takes time and energy to produce any complex machine. To abuse it to the point of breakage is such a waste. In any event I try to treat another's property as if it were my own. I sez: Good for you! We rent houses and apartments, and while I don't believe that many of our tenants are willfully damaging our property, the vast majority practice what I would call benign neglect. The end result is that carpets and wall paint last about five and two years in rental service while lasting us easily two or three times as long in our personal use. I think most figure "I paid for it, they're going to take it back, I'm going to make sure I use it. Hard." I suspect that the stiffer the rent paid, the greater the damage intentionally inflicted. Disclosure: The Mustang that was substituted for the rental car I ordered in Palm Springs did get it's brakes stood upon while I tested the torque converter up through wheel spin. I felt bad. And bad felt good! Tom (no desire to buy a rental car - too many moving parts. No problem with rental houses - pretty static) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 19:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Removing Parts from Rental Cars Andre: Ford engineers are not the only ones who do this! Neil Deshpande - took apart 28+ rentals for MSME thesis data acquisition. Don't recall having any parts left over though! *** Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've talked to a former Ford engineer who said that they'd rent interesting new cars and take them apart to see how they worked. There were often a few parts left over after reassembly. They didn't have a service manual or anything to go by. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:37:11 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME? Bzzt. E39 wheels have the larger hub. They fit on other models, but the hubs do no locating. Gary Derian > I know for a fact that the E39 hub is the same as an E24 or an E28. I have > put several set's of E39 sport wheels on M5's and M6's. > > Kirk A. Gilchrist > EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair > 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:45:56 -0400 From: "Mel Abrahams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME? Actually the E39 has a 74.06 mm hub bore vs.72.56 mm hub bore for the E24,34 and 31. The E39 wheel will fit but it is advisable to use hubcentric rings. The E24,34,31 wheel will not fit the E39. Mel Abrahams '91 E34 M5 '88 E30 M3 "Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:59:27 -0400 From: "Eurowerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: HUB SIZES FOR E24 E34 AND E31...ARE THEY THE SAME? I know for a fact that the E39 hub is the same as an E24 or an E28. I have put several set's of E39 sport wheels on M5's and M6's. Kirk A. Gilchrist EURO-WERKS / Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo Service and Repair 8 South Highland St. / Winchester, KY 40391 / 859-745-0125 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 888-522-0271 toll free" _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:05:30 -0700 From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] UUC List etiquette question Rob, A client of mine is selling his 2001 Lexus LX470. It was replaced with an '04 330Cic, so can I help him try to sell it by posting it to the list? Thanks, Grant BTW - any progress on the WRX Rob Knob? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:09:19 -0700 From: "Grant Low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Note to self.. Check to address next time. Sorry for the WOB. That was obviously meant for Rob only. Grant ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich, plus info on Nurburgring? > Ummmmm, no... Are you serious? Don't mess with my > head - I'm on the brink of (finally) driving the > Autobahn, so I'm very vulnerable right now... :) > > Part of the Ring is a public road, right? How can > they prevent me from driving it? Is the fun part > not > the public part? I need to do some research on that > - > anyone know the good sources of information? > > - Neil > > --- John Firestone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I assume you have heard about the repo man Sixt > > sends to the > > Nuerburgring? > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to > Outlook(TM). > http://calendar.yahoo.com > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:21:00 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: BMW rental in Munich on 6/11/03 8:36 PM, "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Diesel wouldn't be horrible, though. European Car mags seem consistently to rate the 330 turbodiesel as the best - - well, the best non-M - version of the E46. Refined, economical, good power, huge torque. Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:32:58 -0400 From: "Felix Vicente" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: [uucdigest] V3 #6456 > I know for a fact that the E39 hub is the same as an E24 or > an E28. I have > put several set's of E39 sport wheels on M5's and M6's. uhh, NO. the reason you could do that was because the E39 wheels have a larger center bore, thus they fit the smaller-bored M5s and M6s. Try putting an e28/e32/e34 wheel with a 72.9mm bore on an E39 and you'll figure it out. - -felix miami,fl 97 540/6 found out the hard way when I got a flat 98 740 95 525 ...and tried to use one of this car's wheels ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:42:03 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JB) Subject: RE: [uuc] BMW rental in Munich, plus info on Nurburgring? Try these sites for information: http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/ http://www.nurburgring.de/?lang=eng John > > Ummmmm, no... Are you serious? Don't mess with my > > head - I'm on the brink of (finally) driving the > > Autobahn, so I'm very vulnerable right now... :) > > > > Part of the Ring is a public road, right? How can > > they prevent me from driving it? Is the fun part > > not > > the public part? I need to do some research on that > > - > > anyone know the good sources of information? > > > > - Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:58:25 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] e-30 325ic low idle/hesitation > ..........I use silicone grease, specifically Dow Corning > 111, which does a great job of repelling water. Geez Gary, you use this stuff for everything, I bet you even have a tube in the bathroom... Later, Rich PS - I left that open to the imagination, which is pretty horrifying, but intended it to mean as a hair gel... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] RE: Autobahn...The Ring Neil, if you don't have some track seat time, and if you haven't seen the ring (i.e. at least driven it on Grand Prix Legends a couple dozen hours to get oriented), I'd be careful about jumping in and trying to drive it. It's a fairly dangerous track that draws you up to speed, then leaves you at entry to a poorly marked hairpin turn. A fair number of people mess up their cars while taking classes to learn how to drive the track, let alone jumping on at random to play on it. YMMV, of course. Marc Plante E36 325i, 213k Vienna, VA (Hoping to drive the Ring in '04) Marc Plante E36 325i, 210k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:29:15 -0400 From: "Ron J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Fw: honda -OT Hi All, Got this one from someone on the Porsche Listserv. Its done with Honda parts but its great.!! 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Gary Derian > > ..........I use silicone grease, specifically Dow Corning > > 111, which does a great job of repelling water. > > Geez Gary, you use this stuff for everything, I bet you even have a tube in the bathroom... > > Later, > > Rich > > PS - I left that open to the imagination, which is pretty horrifying, but intended it to mean as a hair gel... > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:35:58 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] [E36 M3] Meltdown A couple of days ago my M3 suffered a short circuit inside the large wiring chase underneath the HVAC air intake at the base of the windshield. Cursory inspection suggests that probably no more than a dozen wires are fried - I can't be sure until I tease the wires apart and take more careful stock. It does appear that at least one wire, and probably a couple more, is damaged beyond this visible area, up toward the main fuse/relay panel. Damage seems to be to smaller control wires, not larger power cables. The wiring harness in this area appears essentially modular. On the passenger side there's a big harness going to the ECU, and a couple of other going to other multi-pin connectors. The driver side seems somewhat similar. This opens up the possibility of unplugging and removing the whole shebang. I see two possible fixes: 1) Identify and individually replace the damaged wires. I do have the electronic/soldering skills and tools to do this. However there's risk of error, and there may be some difficulty in properly identifying wires whose colour-coded jackets are blackened. 2) Buy the necessary new sections of harness, assuming they really can be separated as it appears, and reassemble from new. The ETK shows only a single harness part in this area, "Cable harness sector front," which appears from the primitive diagram to include every cable forward of the firewall (headlights, etc.). Option #1 is obviously cheaper, but my objective is to achieve the best outcome, with cost very much secondary. Option #2 will probably be quite expensive (parts cost), and life being what it is will doubtless not turn out to be as straightforward as one might hope. (There's a possible option #3, to recover the harness from a wreck. However it may be hard to find one of the right model year and with the right optional equipment. Also risk of the harness being damaged.) Anyone BTDT, or have opinions, words of wisdom, etc? By the way, the car still runs, although with some anomalies (stuff that doesn't turn off with the ignition, for instance.) Obviously the battery is disconnected for safety, and the car parked for the duration. Neil 96 M3 - lightly fried ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:03:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] RE: Autobahn...The Ring Marc, I appreciate the advice, and I will be careful. I haven't had any exposure to the Ring - electronic or otherwise - but I do have a decent amount of track experience, so I know how to stay out of trouble, at the very least. Besides, I'm not trying to set any track records here. It's more just the experience of driving such a storied and marvelous track, and the hope that maybe I'll get passed by a disguised version of the V-10 M5 during testing. Well, that will apply to my first lap, I'm sure. After I pony up 20 Euros (or whatever it costs) the second time, I'm sure the speed will come up a bit... Thanks again, Neil - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Neil, if you don't have some track seat time, and if > you haven't seen the ring (i.e. at least driven > it on Grand Prix Legends a couple dozen hours to get > oriented), I'd be careful about jumping in and > trying to drive it. It's a fairly dangerous track > that draws you up to speed, then leaves you at > entry to a poorly marked hairpin turn. A fair > number of people mess up their cars while taking > classes to learn how to drive the track, let alone > jumping on at random to play on it. > > YMMV, of course. > > Marc Plante > E36 325i, 213k > Vienna, VA > (Hoping to drive the Ring in '04) > > Marc Plante > E36 325i, 210k > Vienna, VA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6457 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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