[uucdigest] Sunday, June 15 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6467
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[uuc] Learning to drive a stick shift ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:41:04 -0700 From: "Kjos'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34> Touring Information? All '95 E34s and ALL E34 M5s is correct. John Kjos - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34> Touring Information? > Yes, my 1995 Touring has the same side skirts as my 1991 M5. As did all > E34s I believe. > > Gary Derian > > > Jeff: > > > > Any info on cosmetics other than grille? What about > > the color-coded plastic side-skirts that appeared on > > the later E34 cars? Did they appear on the Tourings? > > > > Neil Deshpande > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 08:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E34> Touring Information? Neil, I seem to recall that the earlier cars had only one airbag, while the later Tourings had two. I think 1994 was the first year with two, but I can't be sure. ===== David Kroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:59:14 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 door latch issues? Kids complained at church today that they wouldn't sit in the front of Mom's E36 328i, because they couldn't open the door from the inside. Where the driver's door open with a snick, the passenger's side interior latch feels on the verge of breaking before the latch opens. Anyone been there? TIA, Ed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:45:50 -0500 From: "Brian Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] 87 528E acting strange I decided to wash the 87 528e this morning. Hopped in the car, the battery was low, so, I grabbed my jumper box and clamped it on the pos battery terminal and grounded on the upper strut mount bolt. It started right up, I disconnected the jump box and pulled it around to wash it. I left it idling while I washed it to see if it would charge the battery up a bit planning on putting it on the charger later in the day. When I finished washing it, I pulled it back to its parking spot and shut it off. About 10 minutes later, I went out and jumped in it to go to the store and although it spun and fired, it died as soon as I released the key, tried again and the same. In the past, its never failed to start immediately, so, I checked the gas gauge thinking it was low, but no, about 1/3 tank. maybe the gas is getting old since it doesn't get driven much. After several attempts I noticed that it sounded like the car was running as long as I was cranking with the key in the start position, so, I prolonged that and tried adding fuel, it began to pic up, but was missing and I could see black smoke trailing out of the back of the car by looking in the rear view mirror. thought it might be flooded, so I floored it in an effort to introduce more fresh air into the cylinders to see if it would clear, after about 10-15 seconds of this, it began to run, on all cylinders, still cranking with the key on, I released the key, and it died again. Cranked again using the same procedure and this time I found a spot at about 2700 RPM where it would stay running without continuous cranking with the starter. After a couple of minutes of this, I could see that the exhaust was clearing up and could slowly move the accelerator back and forth to change RPMs a little, BUT, every time I tried to either release the accelerator OR rev it quickly, it would falter and die. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone ever experienced similar symptoms??? I'm wondering if perhaps my Air mass meter just died. Please reply directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks in advance, Brian Collins ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:52:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] re: How does a clutch work re: How does a clutch work: If I were writing an FAQ for nontechnical users of a computer, I would say it like this: When you press in the clutch, the engine is _not connected to the wheels. When you do not press in the clutch, the engine _is connected to the wheels. Same as a light switch. So when you're pressing on the clutch in between all the way in and out, its just like a dimmer switch on a light bulb. If you bring up a dimmer switch brighter than you want the light bulb, you turn the switch down a bit to the brightness you want. So when you bring out the clutch and the car says "not so fast", press the clutch back down and bring it back out a little less. That said, it brings to mind the first time I got a car into gear with a stick shift. It was in high school and a family friend, without my parents knowledge, was giving me driving lessons of a sort my parents probably wouldn't approve of. She had an old Opel and wanted me to learn to drive stick. I stalled in first. I stalled trying it real easy in second. Bucking or stalling or all sorts of humorous car behavior I would feel embarrased by if seen by an innocent bystander. So then she said to try reverse. Wham. Perfect clutch slip. Fifty feet rearward angling onto their front lawn knocking down the mailbox stopping just short of driving off the curb. A driving moment I'll never forget. Any other entertaining stories about the first time on a clutch? 'jk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:30:05 -0500 From: "Bill Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FA: E28 Clutch Master & Slave, Colgan bra, Headlight covers For Auction: E28, E30 Clutch Master & Slave cylinders E28, E30 Smoked Headlight covers M5 535is Colgan bra Pirelli P700 225x50-16 tire Jacobs ignition system http://tinyurl.com/dsof Bidding starts at $1 and no reserve Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:59:52 -0600 From: "Bob Sutterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: teaching SO (was: WTB E30 325e/i w/ automatic transmission) Neil Deshpande wrote: > Next time I will not even try. Send the SO to > someone else, I say! While we were dating, still in college, I taught Lauri to drive the clutch in my Mom's Plymouth Horizon. Now we've been married 18+ years and she still finds slushboxes to be boring. When our 3 kids outgrew the back seat of the E28, we bought a van with a 5-speed. > I've seen some friends pull this off very smoothly > by stating up front that SO teaching is just a bad > idea and that just about anyone else would be better. When we go out to play at open track days, sometimes Lauri wants to drive solo and work things out herself, sometimes she wants me to ride along and instruct, and sometimes she wants to ride with me to watch what I do. It's her call which way she wants to do it. The key to harmony, I think, is that we each strongly respect the other's abilities. We each know how the other thinks, and how to provide encouragement and adjustments. But at driving schools she asks for someone else's input, because she gets to hear from me all the time :-) - -- Bob Sutterfield '87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR '88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org #154 IHR FUNF '93 T4 EV MV Weekender BELUGA BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:32:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] 87 528E acting strange Brian, How long has it been since you started the car? What kind of driving do you do with the car? What kind of gas (brand and octane level)? If it's doing this due to prolonged sitting, it could be the injectors. They may be clogged if you drive it only short distances. You also may have a (or several) sticking injector(s). I would also check all of the vacuum hoses to see if any are slit, broken, or just plain off their respective connections. This includes the large AFM-to-throttle body "intake bellows" and the small vacuum line connecting the FPR to the intake manifold. My guess is something with the injectors. The black smoke could be just oil that has seeped through the valve seals since the last time it was driven. It's just burning off. Hope this helps. Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '85 Euro 535i '87 528e <-- soon to be gone forever www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- Brian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I decided to wash the 87 528e this morning. Hopped > in the car, the > battery was low, so, I grabbed my jumper box and > clamped it on the pos > battery terminal and grounded on the upper strut > mount bolt. It started > right up, I disconnected the jump box and pulled it > around to wash it. I > left it idling while I washed it to see if it would > charge the battery up a > bit planning on putting it on the charger later in > the day. > > When I finished washing it, I pulled it back to its > parking spot and shut it > off. About 10 minutes later, I went out and jumped > in it to go to the store > and although it spun and fired, it died as soon as I > released the key, > tried again and the same. In the past, its never > failed to start > immediately, so, I checked the gas gauge thinking it > was low, but no, about > 1/3 tank. maybe the gas is getting old since it > doesn't get driven much. > > After several attempts I noticed that it sounded > like the car was running as > long as I was cranking with the key in the start > position, so, I prolonged > that and tried adding fuel, it began to pic up, but > was missing and I could > see black smoke trailing out of the back of the car > by looking in the rear > view mirror. thought it might be flooded, so I > floored it in an effort to > introduce more fresh air into the cylinders to see > if it would clear, after > about 10-15 seconds of this, it began to run, on all > cylinders, still > cranking with the key on, I released the key, and it > died again. Cranked > again using the same procedure and this time I found > a spot at about 2700 > RPM where it would stay running without continuous > cranking with the > starter. After a couple of minutes of this, I could > see that the exhaust > was clearing up and could slowly move the > accelerator back and forth to > change RPMs a little, BUT, every time I tried to > either release the > accelerator OR rev it quickly, it would falter and > die. > > > Any thoughts on this? Has anyone ever experienced > similar symptoms??? I'm > wondering if perhaps my Air mass meter just died. > > Please reply directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks in advance, > Brian Collins > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:42:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 door latch issues? Yep. For years, passengers in my '94 325is have given a tug when exiting, then declared that the door was locked. It requires a very strong tug. Recently, my driver's side latch has on-and-off required almost enough force to where you're pulling the latch surround out of the door panel. I've asked my mechanic to lube it up once or twice before, and it seems to help, though I don't know exactly what he did. Neil - --- Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kids complained at church today that they wouldn't > sit in the front of > Mom's E36 328i, because they couldn't open the door > from the inside. > Where the driver's door open with a snick, the > passenger's side interior > latch feels on the verge of breaking before the > latch opens. > > Anyone been there? > > TIA, > > Ed > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! 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When my dad took my sisters out learning to drive my dad always ended up yelling and my sisters always ended up crying. Both my sisters learned how to drive a car with a manual transmission from friends without any problems. Once they had the basics down and could drive fairly well I gave them a few pointers (one sister had a friend tell her that "first gear was for the first 50 feet", I didn't notice that she was doing this until she pulled out of a parking space on a steep San Francisco hill and shifted to 2nd after 50 feet with a stop sign about 75 feet ahead)... Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6467 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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