[uucdigest] Monday, June 16 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6468
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[uuc] RE: WTB E30 325e/i w/ automatic transmission [uuc] M20 cylinder head tear down [uuc] Entertaining clutch stories RE: [uuc] Learning to drive a stick shift ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:21:31 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <E34> Touring Information? I'm glad you could read my mind and were not limited to what I wrote :-). Gary Derian > All '95 E34s and ALL E34 M5s is correct. > > John Kjos > > > Yes, my 1995 Touring has the same side skirts as my 1991 M5. As did all > > E34s I believe. > > > > Gary Derian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:18:45 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 door latch issues? Yes, I've been to church. Gary Derian > Kids complained at church today that they wouldn't sit in the front of > Mom's E36 328i, because they couldn't open the door from the inside. > Where the driver's door open with a snick, the passenger's side interior > latch feels on the verge of breaking before the latch opens. > > Anyone been there? > > TIA, > > Ed > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:29:37 -0700 From: "Ben Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Learning to drive a stick shift. cont.... Ok finally here is one I can chime in on. The best way I have found to instruct somebody is like this. Have he or she push in the clutch with their left foot and hold it in while doing nothing with the right foot. That's right don't even think about putting it on the gas pedal! Now with the car on a flat piece of road have them just roll back onto the ball of their left foot. Presto no more chug chug. If it starts to die just have them reverse what they did. In other words have them master taking off without giving it any gas before they try with gas. There it is no more angry girlfriends or wives. I know this method works and anybody can do it this way. Now why didn't my dad try this method on me those many years ago:( Ben Dixon '95 325i, couple 02's and TD's [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:39:58 -0700 From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 door latch issues? Check the bottom of the interior door panel, the plastic clips break and then when the door shuts the misaligned panel gets caught on the sill. The resulting pressure "sort of" jams the door locking mechanism. If you can move the bottom of the door panel with your fingers easily, then I bet that's the problem. I've seen it on 3 E36s coupes so far. Marco Neil N. wrote: > Yep. For years, passengers in my '94 325is have given > a tug when exiting, then declared that the door was > locked. It requires a very strong tug. Recently, my > driver's side latch has on-and-off required almost > enough force to where you're pulling the latch > surround out of the door panel. I've asked my > mechanic to lube it up once or twice before, and it > seems to help, though I don't know exactly what he > did. > > Neil > > --- Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Kids complained at church today that they wouldn't >>sit in the front of >>Mom's E36 328i, because they couldn't open the door >>from the inside. >>Where the driver's door open with a snick, the >>passenger's side interior >>latch feels on the verge of breaking before the >>latch opens. >> >>Anyone been there? >> >>TIA, >> >>Ed >> > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Learning to drive a stick shift. cont.... The problem (at least with my girlfriend, now my ex) was not taking off but more what to do in an emergency-type situation. For example, when you need to hit the brakes, you don't just hit them; you PUSH THE CLUTCH IN and hit the brakes too. That, and a number of other things, led me to believe that I would be in for a huge number of lessons to get her to where she could drive my car on public roads! Maybe I'm just being too harsh. :-) Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '85 Euro 535i '87 528e <-- was an auto, then a 5-speed, now a 0-speed www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- Ben Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok finally here is one I can chime in on. The best > way I have found to > instruct somebody is like this. Have he or she push > in the clutch with > their left foot and hold it in while doing nothing > with the right foot. > That's right don't even think about putting it on > the gas pedal! Now with > the car on a flat piece of road have them just roll > back onto the ball of > their left foot. Presto no more chug chug. If it > starts to die just have > them reverse what they did. In other words have > them master taking off > without giving it any gas before they try with gas. > There it is no more > angry girlfriends or wives. I know this method > works and anybody can do it > this way. Now why didn't my dad try this method on > me those many years > ago:( > Ben Dixon '95 325i, couple 02's and TD's > [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:28:21 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Learning to drive a stick shift - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >1. It is always best to teach someone how to drive for the first time >with >an automatic (it's easier to tech someone how to shift after they >already >know how to turn and stop). Not so sure I agree with that... I would think that learned behavior patterns are easier to build from scratch than to modify later. If part of the natural acceleration or braking cycle includes clutch/gas/gearshift activity, it won't be abandoned in an emergency situation when the synapses have started jangling with adrenalin. The very basics of acceptable clutch application can be taught on straight, obstacle-free areas before the basics of traffic integration. Honing all the skills simultaneously is easy for young folks at driver's license age... expecting (or even hoping they will) them to learn manual at a later date is an iffy likelihood at best. This is a dangerous risk, leaving us with a multitude of drivers who are incapable of driving a manual. These are future SMG drivers who must be stopped at once! ;-) >2. You don't ever want to teach someone that you are related to or >sleeping >with how to drive for the first time (or drive a car with a manual >transmission). I think the trick to this is a disposable car, or one you can take that mindset about. I taught my ex-girlfriend to drive manual on the Miata I used to have. As Miata parts are 1) cheap, and 2) bulletproof, I was not worried about damage. This allowed a zen-like cloud of universal acceptance to settle down around me, which put her at ease. Things worked out well... after a few herky-jerky situations (as to be expected), she got better very quickly and could pilot the car around on public roads with reasonable control the very same day. She was not a "car person" by any stretch, just had the determination of wanting to drive the droptop. - - Rob "a six speed in everything" Levinson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:08:47 -0400 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 door latch issues? Mine was like that for about 6 months, then it totally failed at Mid Ohio. Had to drive with a tie down holding my door shut for three days til I could replace the latch. Thank god I have a 4 door with a Bpillar I could use. Marc Plante e36 325i, 314k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:49:01 +0000 From: "Vijay Nuthulapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: WTB E30 325e/i w/ automatic transmission When I got married, my wife owned a Honda Civic (auto) and I owned an E36 M3 and a Civic (5-spd - winter car). I started teaching her to drive the Civic first, mostly in our apt. complex's parking lot. Once she got a little hang of it, I asked her to drive the M3 a little bit and she said that it felt much easier in the M3 (smoother clutch and all) than the Civic. After I sold my Civic, I bought a 94 325 (5-spd) to build into a race car. All this time, she still had her automatic and even through we had two 5-speeds, she drove her Civic to work, and would only drive the stick when I am around with her. I consequently sold her Civic and she had no choice but to drive the stick around and now, after more than three years, she is very comfortable driving the stick. It really changes the perspective when a girl knows how to drive a stick. A lot of my friends are more comfortable when my wife takes out their cars than their wifes do. I had some trouble in the beginning and at one time, I sat down and explained her how the whole gear system worked and also had her shift her automatic manually to understand when to shift and such. Vijay 00 740iL (Hers now, as she is carrying our baby) 89 325i (Mine) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] WTB E30 325e/i w/ automatic transmission Brad: Have you tried sketching and explaining the function of the clutch? I always go through the mechanicals of the car with my students and anyone who does not want to listen and learn . . . yes, you guessed it . . . they can find someone else! What of the SO you ask? I tried and failed and have a dent in the passenger door of the 88 iS to show for a rare loss of temper. Then, I decided to send her to a friend. He failed to teach her too. Eventually, she and a girlfriend went to the test together and passed it somehow. Next time I will not even try. Send the SO to someone else, I say! I've seen some friends pull this off very smoothly by stating up front that SO teaching is just a bad idea and that just about anyone else would be better. Neil Deshpande *** Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I freaking TRIED that with Jennifer. Her brain just refused to understand how to work a clutch or anything. She got a little better, but she definitely needs a lot more work. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:21:40 -0400 From: "Beaudette, Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] M20 cylinder head tear down Grouppe, The process of disassembling the cylinder head of our E34 525iA has finally begun. No doubt, there will be questions. For now this email is an opportunity for any of you with M20 parts to unload them on my needy self. I plan to replace most everything that comes off the engine if it is not new. Send me an email if you think I may be interested. Cheers, Roland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:50:45 -0400 From: "Zidlicky, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Entertaining clutch stories Figured there would be no better way to learn how to drive a 5 speed than to just purchase one as my first car. My friend helped me look the car over ... '81 honda accord (I was 23 at the time) ... Test drive it and bring he car home. Was living outside of boston in cambridge, ma at the time ... So after about 10-15 minutes of instruction ... I get into the car solo and he follows me in his car. There are some hilly parts of cambrige and invariably, I end up at a stop sign on an upwards sloping hill and he yells out "you're doing great." ... I yell back "you've got to be f?:)=!; kidding me ... I'm sitting here completely stopped with my feet pressed down on all three pedals at once.". Nothing like just being thrown into the fire. Woke up the next morning and drove the car 3.5 hours to my parent's house outside of nyc. Burned the clutch to a crisp by riding it within the next year. Peter '88 m3 '90 325ic - -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld (www.BlackBerry.net) This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:12:11 -0400 From: "Pharr, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Learning to drive a stick shift > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Levinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [uuc] Learning to drive a stick shift <snip> > I taught my ex-girlfriend to drive manual on the > Miata I used to have. As Miata parts are 1) cheap, and 2) > bulletproof, I was not worried about damage. <snip> > This allowed a zen-like > cloud of universal acceptance to settle down around me.. You were high... That zen-like cloud was clutch disk smoke. The adhesives used to secure clutch disk material can have a sedative effect when heated and inhaled in large quantities. ;-) - --Jeff ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6468 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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