[uucdigest]          Tuesday, June 17 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6472



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] wanted
       Re: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title
       [uuc] <e30> rear view mirror recommendations
       [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525
       RE: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title
       RE: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title
       Re: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:41:48 -0400
From: Chriskent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] wanted

hi all,
im looking for two cars.
One for me; a total beater that will last 6 months with out any major work
and is close to RI.  cosmetics a zero concern.  e30 or e28. CHEAP.

also, a car for my mother, dependability is the objective. Mid 1990s 5 or 7
series.

chris
Rhode Island 

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:06:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: jason daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title

Run away. The guy is lying to you. The only way the
car would be given a salvage title is if it was
damaged to over 70% of its value. If he is honest, he
will give you the insurance company or body shop info
so you can see for yourself. 

No warranty applies to this car. Salvage title takes
car of that.

My background is 9 years in the insurance biz so I
have seen a few of these. 

Jason 

- --- Polands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Group,
> 
> I know my wife will just say forget about it, and I
> know you all have
> laundered this topic repeatedly, but maybe I wasn't
> listening to all of
> it aside from "walk away". 

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <e30> rear view mirror recommendations

Tom:

When asked how he dealt with the poor rearward
visibility in the F40 during merges, Luca di M
replied, "I get on the gas and hope one of my
customers is not coming up behind me."

Neil Deshpande

***

"T WALROD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am reminded of Gumball Rally (?)- the Italian
Racecar driver who rips off the rear view mirror and
proclaims:  "What's behind us - does not matter
(acceleration sequence)".

Words to live by.  Tom

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:31:54 -0400
From: "Michael McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525

Gruppe,

I am looking for possible upgrades for my '89 525's braking system. Current
setup is ATE *powerslot* rotors front, stock balo rotors rear, with
metalmasters all around. I have warped a few rotors, and cooked a few sets
of pads (smoke billowing kind of cooked), but only with spirited driving in
the mountains and such. I am looking for better balance mostly, as the heat
issues I think are possibly better addressed with ducting. though if the
upgrade takes care of some of this too, that could be a plus.
my main question is, what have others done on E34's or similarly equipped
vehicles? what is the best bang for the buck?

also, are there any charts out there that show relative claming force versus
line pressure of different calipers? I feel that the car needs some of the
bias moved rearward, which means I need less bite up front if possible. some
of the earlier BMW calipers might accomodate this.

thanks for the bandwidth

- -Michael McCoy

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:15:52 -0500
From: Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title

Steve,

Buying  a salvage titled car  CAN be a great value.. but I think you 
should be
sure that you will want to keep the car, as  it could be very difficult 
to sell the
car... However,  I think the general assumptions below are probably 
correct..
if you  don't expect to get top dollar when you sell it, then  you 
should be fine...

At this point....  finding out WHY the car was given a salvage title should
be your primary concern and sticking point...  In very few cases would a
person buy a car  DIRECTLY from an insurance company...   Insurance
companies sometimes will sell salvaged ars to their employees, but most
often sell them through an auto auction via a salvaege company..
http://www.copart.com/  is one of the bigger companies....

I suggest you read the following horror story....

part 1 - http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e21/forum.php?postid=3378984

part 2 - http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e21/forum.php?postid=3379064



Now that I've  got your attention.....  :-o

1) get the vehicle inspected by a competent mechanic that *you* select....
    have the   mechanicc get the    vehicle up in the air and look at it 
from under,
    as well as check the alignment..
2) run CARFAX  and check all possible VIN locations
3) search like hell to find out EXACTLY why the car was
    purchased from the owner by an insurance company...
     I, like you  feel that there must have been more than
     3-4K in damage.. one fairly benign  reason it could have
     been purchased   is if the vehicle was stolen and recovered
      after the insurance company had settled with the owner...
     of course this also assumes the vehicle was wrecked by
      the thieves...
4)  follow up with your local insurance company and the
     Oregon state Bureau of Motor Vehicles  with regards to
     any possible issues, as you   identified below..


Good luck and keep us apprised...

Mark Williams
Dallas, TX
Claim rep by day..





>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:30:28 -0700
>From: "Polands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title
>
>Group,
>
>I know my wife will just say forget about it, and I know you all have
>laundered this topic repeatedly, but maybe I wasn't listening to all of
>it aside from "walk away".  I've looked at the car and driven it a bit,
>it is in extremely good cosmetic condition, with 15,150 miles, and curb
>rash on one wheel.  It has virtually every option, with premium, sport
>and winter package, 5spd.
>
>The seller indicates that he bought it from insurance company, after the
>original owner damaged the left front light and fender and left rear
>light and fender, without touching doors with only 900 some miles on it.
>Front and rear bumper covers were replaced too.  He indicates that the
>repair cost was approx. $3500.
>
>The drive revealed no obvious deficits, although on a bumpy road it
>seemed a bit darty, perhaps a symptom of the original issue "too vague
>and too boosted" steering?
>
>I have a hard time understanding how an insurance company would have
>given it a salvage title with so little damage.  The asking price is
>26,000, which is easily 2,000 to 4,000 to 8,000 under what I see others
>listed for.  His propostion is that as long as subsequent resale is
>$4000 or so below blue book, he wouldn't expect a significant problem
>moving it along.
>
>I am going to call a dealer and inquire if the salvage title negates any
>of the standard warrantees.  I also wonder if there are any particular
>issues with changing the Washington title to Oregon, or with insurance
>on a salvage title car?
>
>I tried to run carfax, but apparently didn't get the last two digits, so
>will have to phone the seller again.
>
>If it weren't for the salvage title situation, the 330i sport is
>obviously one hell of a car... but major reservations here.
>Your thoughts?
>
>Steve Poland
>Portland, OR
>
>------------------------------
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:38:23 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title

Not to mention, the price does not seem that good to me. They lease buyout 
price on my
2001 330i is probably going to be less than that and my car has never been 
wrecked and I
paid to have the oil and filter changed about 2x more often than BMW would 
do it for free.

Dennis
330i

At 11:15 PM 6/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Steve,
>
>Buying  a salvage titled car  CAN be a great value.. but I think you should be
>sure that you will want to keep the car, as  it could be very difficult to 
>sell the
>car... However,  I think the general assumptions below are probably correct..
>if you  don't expect to get top dollar when you sell it, then  you should 
>be fine...
>
>At this point....  finding out WHY the car was given a salvage title should
>be your primary concern and sticking point...  In very few cases would a
>person buy a car  DIRECTLY from an insurance company...   Insurance
>companies sometimes will sell salvaged ars to their employees, but most
>often sell them through an auto auction via a salvaege company..
>http://www.copart.com/  is one of the bigger companies....
>
>I suggest you read the following horror story....
>
>part 1 - http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e21/forum.php?postid=3378984
>
>part 2 - http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e21/forum.php?postid=3379064
>
>
>
>Now that I've  got your attention.....  :-o
>
>1) get the vehicle inspected by a competent mechanic that *you* select....
>    have the   mechanicc get the    vehicle up in the air and look at it 
> from under,
>    as well as check the alignment..
>2) run CARFAX  and check all possible VIN locations
>3) search like hell to find out EXACTLY why the car was
>    purchased from the owner by an insurance company...
>     I, like you  feel that there must have been more than
>     3-4K in damage.. one fairly benign  reason it could have
>     been purchased   is if the vehicle was stolen and recovered
>      after the insurance company had settled with the owner...
>     of course this also assumes the vehicle was wrecked by
>      the thieves...
>4)  follow up with your local insurance company and the
>     Oregon state Bureau of Motor Vehicles  with regards to
>     any possible issues, as you   identified below..
>
>
>Good luck and keep us apprised...
>
>Mark Williams
>Dallas, TX
>Claim rep by day..
>
>
>
>
>
>>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 19:30:28 -0700
>>From: "Polands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: [uuc] Used '01 330i - salvage title
>>
>>Group,
>>
>>I know my wife will just say forget about it, and I know you all have
>>laundered this topic repeatedly, but maybe I wasn't listening to all of
>>it aside from "walk away".  I've looked at the car and driven it a bit,
>>it is in extremely good cosmetic condition, with 15,150 miles, and curb
>>rash on one wheel.  It has virtually every option, with premium, sport
>>and winter package, 5spd.
>>
>>The seller indicates that he bought it from insurance company, after the
>>original owner damaged the left front light and fender and left rear
>>light and fender, without touching doors with only 900 some miles on it.
>>Front and rear bumper covers were replaced too.  He indicates that the
>>repair cost was approx. $3500.
>>
>>The drive revealed no obvious deficits, although on a bumpy road it
>>seemed a bit darty, perhaps a symptom of the original issue "too vague
>>and too boosted" steering?
>>
>>I have a hard time understanding how an insurance company would have
>>given it a salvage title with so little damage.  The asking price is
>>26,000, which is easily 2,000 to 4,000 to 8,000 under what I see others
>>listed for.  His propostion is that as long as subsequent resale is
>>$4000 or so below blue book, he wouldn't expect a significant problem
>>moving it along.
>>
>>I am going to call a dealer and inquire if the salvage title negates any
>>of the standard warrantees.  I also wonder if there are any particular
>>issues with changing the Washington title to Oregon, or with insurance
>>on a salvage title car?
>>
>>I tried to run carfax, but apparently didn't get the last two digits, so
>>will have to phone the seller again.
>>
>>If it weren't for the salvage title situation, the 330i sport is
>>obviously one hell of a car... but major reservations here.
>>Your thoughts?
>>
>>Steve Poland
>>Portland, OR
>>
>>------------------------------
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525

The most popular upgrade for the e28 guys is to use
e34 540i rotors and calipers, which are the exact ones
as on the e34 M5, too.  Going a step further means
getting e31 front rotors (not sure about the
calipers).  A step after that is the Nurburgring
brakes from the later Euro e34 M5.  The last step
would of course to get Rob's UUC VSB brake conversion.

You can check www.ultimagegarage.com for pricing on
everything you'll need.  Tell Steve that you have an
e34 that needs bigger brakes, and he'll sell you
everything you need to complete the conversion.

HTH,

Brad "Shifty" Couvillon
'85 Euro 535i <-- getting e34 M5 brakes once I get the
e34 M5 wheels!
www.fatdaddybmw.com




- --- Michael McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gruppe,
> 
> I am looking for possible upgrades for my '89 525's
> braking system. Current
> setup is ATE *powerslot* rotors front, stock balo
> rotors rear, with
> metalmasters all around. I have warped a few rotors,
> and cooked a few sets
> of pads (smoke billowing kind of cooked), but only
> with spirited driving in
> the mountains and such. I am looking for better
> balance mostly, as the heat
> issues I think are possibly better addressed with
> ducting. though if the
> upgrade takes care of some of this too, that could
> be a plus.
> my main question is, what have others done on E34's
> or similarly equipped
> vehicles? what is the best bang for the buck?
> 
> also, are there any charts out there that show
> relative claming force versus
> line pressure of different calipers? I feel that the
> car needs some of the
> bias moved rearward, which means I need less bite up
> front if possible. some
> of the earlier BMW calipers might accomodate this.
> 
> thanks for the bandwidth
> 
> -Michael McCoy
> 


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