[uucdigest] Wednesday, June 18 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6479
_________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.bmwdatabase.com | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Torxed off at hexheads ? [uuc] Re: <E30> spark plugs Re: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525 [uuc] E36 Cabrio Rear Window [uuc] E34 Door Seals [uuc] Oil temperature questions [uuc] Idle speed problems Re: [uuc] Oil temperature questions [uuc] using MS Outlook 2000? Re: [uuc] Idle speed problems [uuc] re: swapping airbag steering wheel for non-airbag wheel [uuc] X3 Preveiw on BMW USA Website Re: [uuc] X3 Preveiw on BMW USA Website Re: [uuc] Oil temperature questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:55:49 -0400 From: "BMWBITS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Torxed off at hexheads ? Having never owned an E30 until two weeks ago I have always kind-a ignored the debates regarding 'what is the perfect headbolt' for the M20 motor . NOW I have one with 238,000 miles and NO known history . I plan to adjust the valvoles soon so will have a good view of the headbolts . ...Tell me oh wise-ones are the 'good' ones hex or Torx(R) ?. There's some jibe about Ribe sticks thru my memory-cells ... Off digest replies please so as not to interfere with shifting manual trannies and such .... How much $$$ are the good sets ? I don�t want the 'racing quality 'ones made from unobtainium by German field-gnomes at midnight , just those that don�t lose their heads like Anne Boleyn did . Bill & Shirley Proud, Tennessee..winters, Seattle..summers Long commute in between . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:07:29 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <E30> spark plugs The W8LCR is what I had always run, though it's not listed by that number anymore. It's just that the places here tell me it's unavailable. Good reason to finally try out the NGKs. And thanks to the others who responded; I answered off post. Clarence West Bend, WI Brad Couvillon wrote: > > Clarence, > > Have you tried the Bosch plugs that were intended for > the car? They are W8LCR. > > I have heard hardly any good things about Bosch > Platinums. > > My 528e ran very well on the WR9LS, which is the > original plug for the eta engine. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:34:57 -0400 From: "Michael McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525 ok, so those are the fronts. what about the rears? I'm trying to get rid of the excessive front bias. (getting rid of heat faster too would also be a plus.) what can people tell me about the E23 7 series front brakes? they look to be very similar to the front brakes on the M5/M6 of the early 80's. they use the same rebuilt kit... but don't have the same caliper PN and such. any info on rotor size and the likes? thanks - -Michael McCoy - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Michael McCoy'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525 > > Here's what we do for E34's.......... > > Kim H > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Michael McCoy > Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525 > > Michael McCoy wrote: > > I am looking for possible upgrades for my '89 525's braking system. > > Study http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/upgrade/brakes.htm > and http://www.m535i.org/officers/ra/articles.html#brakes > (E28 and E34 brakes are interchangeable.) > > The E34 540i brakes provide a thicker front rotor of the same diameter > you > already have, and a thicker vented rear rotor of the same diameter as > your > current solid rear rotor. They will still fit under your 15" wheels. > Several > larger options are possible with BMW components. If you want to use > other > goodies (e.g. Mov'it from http://www.ultimategarage.com) your options > are > limited only by your budget and wheel size. > > You might try a different pad rather than Repco/PBR/Axxis Metalmasters. > Lately > I've been using Porterfield R4S with good results on the street and > autocross. > Call the phone number at http://www.porterfield-brakes.com to order, and > thank > them for their generous club discount. > > The bmwe34.net link includes a couple of paragraphs on brake bias. > -- > Bob Sutterfield > '87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR > '88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org #154 IHR FUNF > '93 T4 EV MV Weekender BELUGA > BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:57:26 -0500 From: "Steve Conner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 Cabrio Rear Window Can the rear window of a 94 325 convertible be easily changed? It appears to have some sort of zipper around the window, but it is not obvious if it comes out easily. Thanks. Steve Conner Kokomo, IN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:02:45 -0500 From: "Steve Conner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E34 Door Seals I need some front door seals for a 90 525 and don't really want to drop the $ on new ones. Is anyone parting a car with decent seals? I am not sure how important color is, since almost none of it shows when the doors are closed. Let me know. Steve Conner Kokomo, IN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:14:32 -0400 From: "Michael McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Oil temperature questions what are acceptable oil temperatures for M20's and M50's or similar motors? and just as important, where are these temperatures generally measured? I am currently measuring the oil temperature at the oil filter housing on the block as the oil leaves the block. I see temperatures of around 210 degrees F at a cruise on the highway. I think an oil cooler is needed. (btw, the oil used is mobil 1 10w50, if that makes any difference.) thanks - -Michael McCoy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:50:52 -0700 From: "Gary Tash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Idle speed problems My 85 325e has developed a problem. The engine runs great except: 1. It has developed an idle 'surge'. The engine revs up-drops off in repeated cycles when at idle, mostly after some highway driving. If it is surging at higher rpm it is very slight and I don't notice it. 2. Low engine speed is hard to control - i.e. in 1st gear, trying to manage car and engine speed to negotiate into or out of a situation or just 'idling' through a parking lot, at some point the rpm drops off a cliff or, in the other direction jumps up the cliff. The engine speed is very difficult to control. - -Gary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:29:16 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Oil temperature questions At 08:14 PM 6/17/03, Michael McCoy talked about: >I am currently measuring the oil temperature at the oil filter housing on >the block as the oil leaves the block. I see temperatures of around 210 >degrees F at a cruise on the highway. I think an oil cooler is needed. On an M50? Why do you think that? 210F is pretty nearly exactly right for an M50 doing "normal" driving. That's about what my race car sees on it's drives to/from the track (200-210F), with Mobil 1 15W50 (temp also taken at oil filter housing). I've seen a high of about 250F running at Thunderhill with ambient temps in the high-90s to 100. My mechanic (Bill Arnold) said that was fine, I shouldn't worry unless it gets up to 280F or so; and he said Mobil 1 was good to about 350F. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:48:18 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] using MS Outlook 2000? Is anyone here using MS Outlook 2000 to post to the digest? If so, can you please email Brett Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) directly, to assist in getting him back on this digest. He's recently changed to Outlook from Outlook Express and has not been able to post since. No comments are necessary on the virtues of the various email softwares, let's just save the bandwidth. - - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Idle speed problems This is an idle control related problem. There are two possible problems: 1) ICV: The idle control valve could be sticky. Remove it, pour some O2 sensor-safe carb cleaner down it, shake it around, and pour it out. Repeat until the carb cleaner is very clean. If the ICV's resistance is too high across the terminals, the ICV is bad and needs to be replaced. 2) ICM: If the idle control module (small box next to the ECU in the glove compartment) is bad, the ICV may not even get a signal. Or, the ICM may not be "strong" enough to control the idle. The Bentley manual outlines the test procedures for these two items pretty well. That way you can determine which item is the culprit. If all else fails, use the penny kludge. Set the adjustment screw on the ICV to the middle. Drill a small hole in a penny and put it on the intake side of your ICV. Keep drilling the hole larger and larger until the car idles just fine when warm. You can use the adjustment screw to fine tune for different ambient temps. Hope this helps! Brad "Shifty" Couvillon '85 Euro 535i '87 528e <-- had plenty of idle problems back when it had an engine www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- Gary Tash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 85 325e has developed a problem. The engine runs > great except: > 1. It has developed an idle 'surge'. The engine revs > up-drops off in > repeated cycles when at idle, mostly after some > highway driving. If it > is surging at higher rpm it is very slight and I > don't notice it. > 2. Low engine speed is hard to control - i.e. in 1st > gear, trying to > manage car and engine speed to negotiate into or out > of a situation or > just 'idling' through a parking lot, at some point > the rpm drops off a > cliff or, in the other direction jumps up the cliff. > The engine speed is > very difficult to control. > > -Gary > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! 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Neil '91 318is '86 M535i '89 325iX parts car ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:32:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] X3 Preveiw on BMW USA Website Hi Group, By any chance you guys see the X3 Preview on their site. http://www.bmwusa.com/welcome.cfm?page=site_layout/X3preview/index.html Is it me or does it look a bit off? Well, I could be off since I think the current 7 series looks ok. Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:37:51 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] X3 Preveiw on BMW USA Website Mike Hsu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > By any chance you guys see the X3 Preview on their > site. > http://www.bmwusa.com/welcome.cfm?page=site_layout/X3preview/index.html > > Is it me or does it look a bit off? Well, I could be > off since I think the current 7 series looks ok. It looks like a Volvo. - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:53:46 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Oil temperature questions The oil temp. VDO installed on my car (325 Ti) has the sender built into the oil drain plug, thus measuring the oil in the pan. This is probably going to read slightly less than the oil filter area, but my regular readings are 180-190F. (Maryland/Virginia/DC) - -Phil 1995 325 Ti Club Sport 1998 318 Ti >I am currently measuring the oil temperature at the oil filter housing on >the block as the oil leaves the block. I see temperatures of around 210 >degrees F at a cruise on the highway. I think an oil cooler is needed. On an M50? Why do you think that? 210F is pretty nearly exactly right for an M50 doing "normal" driving. That's about what my race car sees on it's drives to/from the track (200-210F), with Mobil 1 15W50 (temp also taken at oil filter housing). I've seen a high of about 250F running at Thunderhill with ambient temps in the high-90s to 100. My mechanic (Bill Arnold) said that was fine, I shouldn't worry unless it gets up to 280F or so; and he said Mobil 1 was good to about 350F. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6479 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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