[uucdigest] Tuesday, June 24 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6504
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Re: [uuc] re: why freeze the bushing? was E36 bushing install [uuc] OEM Alloys Re: [uuc] Re: E36 Control arm and bushing install: Re: [uuc] Re: E36 Control arm and bushing install: RE: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:11:24 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Need glass p/n for Euro headlights At 08:08 PM 6/23/03, Steven Schlossman talked about: >Is this a part I can buy separately? Correct. >I understand BMP has them. I think I've seen them in their catalog. I got my replacements from Josh at Eurosport (where I purchased the original lights). I can dig out the receipt to be sure, but I seem to recall they were in the $100/each range. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - w/new, clean Euro headlight lenses 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 - w/old, crappy NA plastic lenses :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:44:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip Group, I seem to recall reading in my Bentley about removing the gas pedal, and how doing so requires replacement of a self-destructing clip that holds the base of the pedal to the floor. Is my recollection correct, and more importantly, does anyone know the name or part number of this clip? My local dealer was of little (no) assistance this morning. Thanks, Neil 1994 325is (soon to be carpet-less, but hopefully not gas pedal-less) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:55:19 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: E30 Rear view mirror with map lights. That mirror [51 16 1 906 525] is listed in HTK for the following US cars: E23 735i, E28 524td, 528e, 535i, E30 318i, 318iS, 325e, 325i, 325iX, M3 (all E30s for coupe, sedan, and cabrio). Interestingly, there's no lighted mirror listed on the E28 M5. A similar item [51 16 1 906 526] was on the Euro 628CSi, 635CSi, and M635CSi. - -- Bob Sutterfield '87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR #35DR '88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org #154 IHR FUNF #58ER '93 T4 EV Weekender BELUGA BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:13:39 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip The clip is an integral part of the pedal. You'll want to replace the entire throttle pedal, which is quite cheap. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil N. > I seem to recall reading in my Bentley about removing > the gas pedal, and how doing so requires replacement > of a self-destructing clip that holds the base of the > pedal to the floor. > > Is my recollection correct, and more importantly, does > anyone know the name or part number of this clip? My > local dealer was of little (no) assistance this > morning. > Neil > 1994 325is (soon to be carpet-less, but hopefully not > gas pedal-less) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:16:15 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 Control arms, bushings, + another black art. Various tips on installing control arms snipped except for > > Heavily coat the contact surfaces with silicone spray. Bad idea. The silicone isn't going to evaporate like a proper temporary lubricant for installing control arms. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:25:17 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] why freeze the bushing? was E36 bushing install > I prefer since silicon lube is what's provided for other rubber to > metal assemblies on the car, such as brake hydraulic rebuild kits. Also > it was recommended to my by wise old sages years ago and I've been using > it since then w/o problems. Silicon spray or grease is inert against > rubber. If soap and water works for others, that's freedom of > modification. Why I avoid it is the idea of the rubber to metal contact > surface is that the bushing rubber stays in firm contact with the > control arm metal due to pressure of the compressed rubber on the arm's > round metal surface. With soap and water, no guarantee the soap won't > react with the rubber. The rubber will stick to the metal once the soap > residue washes out. That can make subsequent removal much more > difficult. (How do I know?) This sticking behavior is more easily seen > when trying to press out, for instance, 2002 to E30 rear trailing arm > bushings. This is all very well and good but BMW designed the control arm bushing rubber to "stick" or adhere to the control arm, the control arm isn't supposed to spin freely or move within the bushing. A wise, not-so-old, BMW sage educated me on this one. I installed my solid E30 M3 bushings quite easily on my control arms without any special technique aside from water (no soap or other lubricants) and the BMW control arm bushing tool. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:26:39 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 Control arm and bushing install: > Brett Anderson > KMS > PS, I'm a big fan of physics I can vouch for that. Whenever Brett has seen me turn a wrench, he looks at me, shakes his head and states "there is an easier way to do that mate" or "don't hold that like that" or "you know there is a lever right over there that would make that easier" or "your going to bust you knuckles that way". Yikes. I have scars to prove I do it the hard way :-) Later, Rich - soon having Brett do some more work on my car... 95 M3 90 325is 89 325is ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:28:48 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Brake upgrades for E34 525 > pad gassing is a problem at certain pad temps. with street pads those temps > are relatively low. > so the MM's are crap. I would tend to agree. but balance does have a lot to > do with what I've said. I cook fronts before the rears get hot. this is with > crappy pads, but equal pads front and rear. so *better* pads would be > different how? thats right... *no difference*. But, my point along with at least that of Jack Money is that you can adjust the bias some with your use of pads and this would be less expensive then some alternatives (buying big brake kits, etc.). That doesn't mean you have to use the same type of pads front and rear. I would use a pad in the front that can handle more heat with a lesser pad in the rear. Your comments about Metal Masters, pad gassing, boiling fluid, etc. led me to believe there are some opportunities you should explore with pad compounds. But, that is my opinion and I have no direct E34 experience and considerably less braking experience than most on this list. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:29:40 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E30 Rear view mirror with map lights. FYI - all three of my E30 325is cars (two 1989s and one 1990) came with the rear view mirror with map lights. All three came this way originally from BMW, not via owner modification. Call them special edition or whatever :-) These mirrors cost ~$160 from BMW brand new. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:34:54 -0500 From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] re: why freeze the bushing? was E36 bushing install No, look again, the question wasn't "why freeze the bushing?". It's freezing the arm that doesn't make sense. To ease a press fit you want a big temperature difference. Cooling both doesn't make sense. jkerouac wrote: > re: why freeze the bushing? was E36 bushing install: > > By freezing the bushing, it becomes harder and less flexible. > Thus more slippery. Same as a normal compound car tire on frozen > roads. Less friction so the rubber slips easier. Also if you think > about it, the hole in the middle gets slightly larger since it is the > ring of rubber that contracts about the circular geometric center of > it donut shape. > By freezing the arm, the metal shrinks slightly. Also by starting > colder, it will warm the rubber on the bushing on contact slower, thus > giving more time to pop the bushing on before the bushing rubber gets > warmer and stickier. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Gendron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] OEM Alloys - --0-683642163-1056465560=:91826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have NINE OEM metric alloys for sale. Also included are FIVE Michelin 220/55R/390 tires (one is completely unused, the other four average 4/32" tread). Located in South Central PA; make offer. Also available: Four steel wheels with Vredstein Snowtrac tires 195/70R/14. Three tires in excellent shape, one blown. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! - --0-683642163-1056465560=:91826 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <DIV>I have NINE OEM metric alloys for sale. Also included are FIVE Michelin 220/55R/390 tires (one is completely unused, the other four average 4/32" tread). Located in South Central PA; make offer. <BR>Also available: Four steel wheels with Vredstein Snowtrac tires 195/70R/14. Three tires in excellent shape, one blown. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> </DIV><p><hr SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://rd.yahoo.com/evt=1207/*http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/";>SBC Yahoo! DSL</a> - Now only $29.95 per month! - --0-683642163-1056465560=:91826-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:18:33 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: E36 Control arm and bushing install: That actually does happen. A few years ago during a bad cold snap in Fairbanks, AK many people lost tires. If the engine is plugged in for heat, things don't get so cold. -40 is not an absolute number. Special rubber compounds can go much lower, but many get pretty hard by -40. Gary Derian > It is a good thing nobody drives in Montana when it gets down to -52 deg > F (-44 deg C)! Tires and weather-stripping and radiator hoses and fuel > lines . . . Black glass shards everywhere the eye could see. > > Ed > > Gary Derian wrote: > > >Freezing rubber makes it harder and may let it distort less when pressing it > >on. Do not cool rubber below about -40 because it becomes glass like and > >will shatter. > > > >Some rubber can withstand -40 F, others are only good to -40C ;-). > > > >Gary Derian > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:26:08 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: E36 Control arm and bushing install: I'm glad you did that before you damaged anything. Gary Derian > Thanks for that hint Gary, I'll be sure to turn my household freezer UP to > something warmer than the -45C that I usually have it set to....... > > ;-) > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > PS, I'm a big fan of physics, when building diffs, I put the cluster in > front of the AC unit (or outside in the snow during winter) and the ring > gear in the oven, for several hours before mating the two. Makes the job > soooooo much easier. > > > -----Original Message----- > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Derian > > Freezing rubber makes it harder and may let it distort less when > > pressing it > > on. Do not cool rubber below about -40 because it becomes glass like and > > will shatter. > > > > Some rubber can withstand -40 F, others are only good to -40C ;-). > > > > Gary Derian > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:35:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip According to BavAuto, it's $32 for the pedal. Is that what you were presuming when you said "quite cheap"? I was thinking about $2 for a clip, so relatively speaking, $32 is not cheap. Any other options? Can the pedal be removed without requiring replacement? - - Neil - --- KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The clip is an integral part of the pedal. You'll > want to replace the > entire throttle pedal, which is quite cheap. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > -----Original Message----- > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Neil N. > > I seem to recall reading in my Bentley about > removing > > the gas pedal, and how doing so requires > replacement > > of a self-destructing clip that holds the base of > the > > pedal to the floor. > > > > Is my recollection correct, and more importantly, > does > > anyone know the name or part number of this clip? > My > > local dealer was of little (no) assistance this > > morning. > > Neil > > 1994 325is (soon to be carpet-less, but hopefully > not > > gas pedal-less) > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! 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