[uucdigest]          Tuesday, June 24 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6505



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Re: E30 Rear view mirror with map lights.
       RE: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip
       RE: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip
       [uuc] WANTED: UUC COMPETITION/EVOLUTION SHIFTER
       [uuc] WOT: freezing cold
       RE: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold
       Re: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold
       re:[uuc] E46 M3 vs 350Z vs G35 Coupe 
       Re: [uuc] E36 alignment
       Re: [uuc] Cleaning filters
       Re: re:[uuc] E46 M3 vs 350Z vs G35 Coupe
       [uuc] Thanks
       Re: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold
       Re: [uuc] Cleaning filters
       [uuc] Re: Brake upgrades for E34 525

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:53:43 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: E30 Rear view mirror with map lights.

The HTK (and ETK) don't show the second generation of M5 made for the US 
market (there is no shop manual for them, either). Enough of them 
weren't made to justify the cost of updating the documentation. Trust me 
that every E28 M5 sold in the US came with a map light rear view mirror. 
I have two of them, from M3 and M5 and every number on them is the same. 
The 635 mirror looks the same, but the wire is longer.

Ed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>That mirror [51 16 1 906 525] is listed in HTK for the following US cars:
>E23 735i, E28 524td, 528e, 535i, E30 318i, 318iS, 325e, 325i, 325iX, M3
>(all E30s for coupe, sedan, and cabrio).  
>Interestingly, there's no lighted mirror listed on the E28 M5.
>A similar item [51 16 1 906 526] was on the Euro 628CSi, 635CSi, and M635CSi.
>--
>Bob Sutterfield
>'87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR  #35DR
>'88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org   #154 IHR FUNF #58ER
>'93 T4 EV Weekender                   BELUGA
>BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter
>
>  
>

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:07:44 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip

Neil,

What about cutting the carpet around the pedal?

Marc 

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:07:48 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 throttle pedal clip

>Any other options?  Can the pedal be removed without
>requiring replacement?

You can probably order it for less than BMP's price.
Other option, drill it and zip tie it.  They have been known
to fail especially if you're a lead foot racer type! :-)

Carlos.

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:18:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WANTED: UUC COMPETITION/EVOLUTION SHIFTER

Wanted for my 88 M6:  Competition/Evolution UUC short-shifter with Delrin
bushings.

Chris
88 M6
89 M3 for sale:  http://www.inlacal.com/m3/m3.htm
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:23:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold

> -40 is not an absolute
> number.  Special rubber
> compounds can go much lower, but many get pretty
> hard by -40.

Anyone know how those scientist types generate
temperatures approaching absolute zero?  It's
got to be more than just a REALLY big freezer.

:-)



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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:54:03 -0400
From: "Zidlicky, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold

Liquid nitrogen boils at -195.8 Celsius ... that will get you part of the
way there.

- -----Original Message-----
From: david kroth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold


> -40 is not an absolute
> number.  Special rubber
> compounds can go much lower, but many get pretty
> hard by -40.

Anyone know how those scientist types generate
temperatures approaching absolute zero?  It's
got to be more than just a REALLY big freezer.

:-)



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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:07:12 -0500
From: Sean Cordone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold

Yah. This'll get WWOT.

First you need a vacuum. You can't get really cold with convection 
around. Then you get there in steps. First is usually using cryogenic 
liquids: liquid nitrogen, which is 77 K (~ -200 C), then liquid helium 
(4.2 K, ~-270 C). Then you pump on the helium gas; this can lower the 
temp of the liquid/gas system to 1.5-2K (you can do the same thing to 
cool water; same principle). Then it starts to get exotic. From there 
you can use a magnetic refrigerator that's good to about 0.070 K; there 
are other ways. Nuclear refigerators go down to 0.001 K or so. You can 
use laser cooling  to get down to the point (0.000001 K) where quantum 
mechanical effects take over and temperature stops making any real sense.

You can also make a (sort of) conventional refrigerator with helium as 
the working fluid that's good down to 5K.

david kroth wrote:

>>-40 is not an absolute
>>number.  Special rubber
>>compounds can go much lower, but many get pretty
>>hard by -40.
>>    
>>
>
>Anyone know how those scientist types generate
>temperatures approaching absolute zero?  It's
>got to be more than just a REALLY big freezer.
>
>:-)
>  
>

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:07:08 -0700
From: "Scott Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re:[uuc] E46 M3 vs 350Z vs G35 Coupe 

I cannot get this link to come up.  Anyone else successful with it?  What 
did it state or show?

Thanks,

Scott
1998 328i sedan

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:00:30 -0400
From: "Luis Rueda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E46 M3 vs 350Z vs G35 Coupe

Japanese track test of E46 M3 vs 350Z vs G35 Coupe
(Skyline in Japan).

http://web.njit.edu/~aslam/g35/g35zm3.mpg

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:20:04 -0700
From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 alignment

At 08:48 PM 6/23/2003 -0400, Michael Lawrence wrote:
>Camber is only controlled by the strut hats,  or top
>mounting bolt of the hub.  Nothing else.

Uh, there's one more way to change the camber in the front of an E36.  You 
can leave the top mounting bolt alone, and shim the bottom two mounting 
bolts that attach the hub to the strut.

Jim Ochi

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:29:12 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] Cleaning filters

"Steve Albrecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As an alternative to dish soap, may I suggest Zep Citrus Cleaner 
> available from Home Depot. 

When Jim C first started advocating ITG foam filters, his recommended 
cleaning method was kerosine baths.
Is dish soap a desirable or merely a convenient substitute?

> Personally, I wouldn't let a K&N filter in my garage, let alone in
> one of my cars. There is no up side to them, 

That's not true.

> and many well documented downsides. I'm sure someone on this list 
> has the URL for test conducted by Jim Conforti that thoroughly 
> debunked the K&N. 

Steve,
Here is a link, but don't expect any 'debunking'. 
http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/dynocharts/intake/KN/kntest.pdf

K&N does flow better than paper and foam filters. It does filter larger 
particles than the other two. 
It does get clogged with usage and when not cleaned, tends to flow worse 
but filter better (shocking, I know).

> There are also well documented dyno tests (on a BMW motorcycle) that
> show no difference between a paper element and no element at all. 

This statement is completely bogus. Any filter will flow worse than no 
filter at all. 
The more it filters, the worse it will flow (duah).
There is a separate issue with comparing equal surface of a different 
filters and shielding them away from the hot turbulent engine bay air. 
These issues are independent of the filter brand/material discussion. 

FWIW, I had too much dyno time on my hands and compared paper vs. drop-in 
K&N vs. shielded cone K&N. The performance improvement followed the order 
in which the filters were just listed. 
Somebody else (BPG?) ran a side by side dyno comparison between shielded 
cone K&N (ECIS intake) and shielded ITG filters (Jim C intake). ECIS K&N 
intake came out slightly ahead. 

Use whatever filter you like, just don't get emotionally caught up in all 
the marketing. 

YMMV, 
alex f

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:35:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: re:[uuc] E46 M3 vs 350Z vs G35 Coupe

It was an automotive review clip running a video in a media player window with an 
announcer speaking
in Japanese.  

Wait for Autoweek to do it's comparo.


> 
> I cannot get this link to come up.  Anyone else successful with it?  What 
> did it state or show?
> 
> Thanks,
 

Marc Plante
E36 325i, 210k
Vienna, VA

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:32:30 -0700
From: Donn Vickrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Thanks

Thanks again to all who responded to my recent posts on track pads, tire
pressures, torque and that 14mm do-dad.  Your posts were very informative
and helpful.

Donn Vickrey
Scottsdale, AZ
98 IS/T2 M3 race car
02 996TT daily driver
03 Navigator tow vehicle and tot hauler

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:56:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] WOT: freezing cold

vacuum.  pressure and temperature are directly related. 
both are inversely proportional to volume, so a big
container w/ few molecules will approach absolute 0.

tammer

- --- david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -40 is not an absolute
> > number.  Special rubber
> > compounds can go much lower, but many get pretty
> > hard by -40.
> 
> Anyone know how those scientist types generate
> temperatures approaching absolute zero?  It's
> got to be more than just a REALLY big freezer.
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:54:57 -0400
From: Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Cleaning filters

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > There are also well documented dyno tests (on a BMW motorcycle) that
> > show no difference between a paper element and no element at all.
>
> This statement is completely bogus. Any filter will flow worse than no
> filter at all.
> The more it filters, the worse it will flow (duah).
> There is a separate issue with comparing equal surface of a different
> filters and shielding them away from the hot turbulent engine bay air.
> These issues are independent of the filter brand/material discussion.


Alex, maybe you misunderstood the above statement.  But it is not Bogus
The test he refers to is 100% correct.  Changing the filter had no effect.
The reason behind that result is that BMW did its homework, designed a
intake that was sufficient for its purpose.  So even with no filter, no
improvement.  Now that doesn't claim that air flow was better or worse with
no filter, just the engine was receiving all the air it needed with the
filter, so there was no benefit to not using a filter.

I personally quit using K&N filters on all my cars when I started noticing
dust etc on the inside of the intake upstream of the filter, where none
existed with paper.   Also, if you can see the particles, they are large
enough to do bearing damage, accelerate engine wear etc.   I also noticed a
difference in oil color when using K&N filters, it was a few shades darker
brown, assuming that it was those particles, lol

Mike

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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:12:14 -0500
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: Brake upgrades for E34 525

Comin' in late on this, but, I just replaced the brake master cylinder on my '87 
325is.  
Put in a unit from '79-'80 5 series.  I now notice more bias to the rear.  Since then 
I've 
replaced all 4 rotors, front calipers, and new pads all around (run Pagid on the 
street).

Even after everything bedded in and things settled down, there's a definite increase 
in rear bias from previously.  I've grown to like it and look forward to what it does 
at 
the track.

BTW, this unit bolted right in w/o needing to bend or change any brake lines. I did 
need to block off two holes.  Mike, maybe there's something like this for the E34.

Clarence
West Bend, WI

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