[uucdigest] Monday, July 14 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6568
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] TEMPERATURE READS -22 OR -30 F [uuc] <misc> cigarette smoke smell [uuc] Re: <misc> cigarette smoke smell [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 RE: [uuc] AC follow-up & questions Re: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 [uuc] Re: <E30> exhaust recommendation Re: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 Re: [uuc] FS 98 M3/4 <bad joke and farewell for now> [uuc] re: <E30> exhaust recommendation [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers [uuc] E38 Transmission Noise ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 06:17:56 -0700 From: Brad Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] TEMPERATURE READS -22 OR -30 F You may also have a break in the wires. Brad Houser > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Marino > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] TEMPERATURE READS -22 OR -30 F > > > Group, > > My OBC temperature feature (88 M6) has now started reading > one of two external temperatures: -22F or -30F. Has the > temperature probe by the foglight gone bad? Any help would > be appreciated. > > Chris > 88 M6 > 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com > 01 X5 > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 09:23:33 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <misc> cigarette smoke smell Easiest way I've found is to not let people smoke in my car. Once it's there the only reliable way I've found is to use an ozonator like the hotels use. You can get small ones for a car from Bavarian Auto, Brookstone, and a host of other places, about $30 for ones that plug into the lighter port. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:58:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <misc> cigarette smoke smell Anybody got a good suggestion for how to eliminate a bad cigarette smell from a car's interior - - - k ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Re: <misc> cigarette smoke smell On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote: > Anybody got a good suggestion for how to eliminate a bad cigarette > smell from a car's interior Leaving a smoldering butt inside the car is one way. Park it on the street though to avoid damage to your garage and/or house. - -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:44:08 -0700 From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 Anyone out there have a Hartge muffler for my 88 M6? My guess is that it would be compatible with all 6 series (and maybe e28 5 series) unless someone tells me different. Chris 88 M6 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com 01 X5 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:54:24 -0700 From: "Brant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] AC follow-up & questions Chris - System pressure does not tell you much about refrigerant charge. The system should contain both gaseous and liquid refrigerant in equilibrium with each other. If it does, the system pressure is determined by the type of refrigerant and the temperature - the level of charge has no effect at all. If the system is so depleted that no liquid remains, the pressure will be below that of the two-phase system. If your refrigerant can emptied into your system faster with the compressor off than on, you were connected to the compressor discharge line. You should have been connected to the compressor suction line.. Brant <<<<<<From: "C. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] AC follow-up & questions I made my first attempt at adding some refrigerant today - figured I might as well try that first. I bought a charge hose with a little gauge on it and followed the directions with it since Bentley doesn't say much about charging. The gauge has a little blue zone that is defined as acceptable, and ranges from 25 to 45 psi. I added a couple cans of refrigerant and wound up at about 35psi and left it at that. A couple of questions: . . . . When I turned the fan setting down and the compressor shut off for a second, the bottle emptied pretty much immediately. Am I supposed to leave the compressor running and just wait all afternoon? What is the recommended procedure here? . . . . Chris B. '94 325i ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 14:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 It should be compatible with all e28s, as well. The Euro e28 535i exhaust system was the exact same as on the Euro 635CSi. I just checked my components a couple of hours ago, and they say "BMW 635CSi" on them. :-) Brad Couvillon '85 Euro 535i www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- Chris Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone out there have a Hartge muffler for my 88 M6? > My guess is that > it would be compatible with all 6 series (and maybe > e28 5 series) unless > someone tells me different. > > Chris > 88 M6 > 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com > 01 X5 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:30:45 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: <E30> exhaust recommendation Actually that's pretty much the way it is right now. Flange gasket between cat and tailpipe is gone and tailpipe terminates where muffler should begin. Except for heat and fume concerns I like the sound; certainly less noisy than all those Harley's running around here. I have contemplated having the gasket replaced and just welding pipes to extend out the back. Clarence West Bend, WI Gary Derian wrote: >Removing the exhaust system behind the cat fulfills all 3 of your >requirements. >Gary Derian > > > >> Would appreciate any input on recommendations for a cat back system for an >E30, '87 325is. I prefer something loud; of course >> inexpensive is a plus. Durablity lasting 3-5 years would be good. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:37:19 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 E12 5 series up to 81 and E24 6 series up to 82/83 use the same exhaust set up and mechanically are the same chassis E28 5 series 82 up to 88 and E24 83 up to 89 use the same exhaust and mechanically are the same chassis. Shocks, brakes etc etc are all the same between the 2 cars. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Couvillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] (LONGSHOT) WANTED: HARTGE MUFFLER FOR 88 M6 > It should be compatible with all e28s, as well. The > Euro e28 535i exhaust system was the exact same as on > the Euro 635CSi. I just checked my components a > couple of hours ago, and they say "BMW 635CSi" on > them. :-) > > Brad Couvillon > '85 Euro 535i > www.fatdaddybmw.com > > > > --- Chris Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone out there have a Hartge muffler for my 88 M6? > > My guess is that > > it would be compatible with all 6 series (and maybe > > e28 5 series) unless > > someone tells me different. > > > > Chris > > 88 M6 > > 89 M3 http://www.inlacal.com > > 01 X5 > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] FS 98 M3/4 <bad joke and farewell for now> your short shifter is red? <rimshot> - --- carl sewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For sale: > > 1998 M3 Sedan VIN WBSCD9321WEE08811, > cosmo black/black lthr; > 44k miles, > Rouge short shift, <etc> >>>Folks, I'm off the digest for the next month. Before I left I wanted to give a nod to Brant Miller, Scott Miller, Donna Seeley, Marvin Martin, Steve Lyon, and Jim Ochi for taking some time to meet up and provide some entertainment when I was in California last week. Wonderful people, all. I'll see you all in mid-August! tammer farid __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:18:53 -0400 From: "Chris Pawlowicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] re: <E30> exhaust recommendation Clarence asks >Would appreciate any input on recommendations for a cat back system for an E30, '87 325is. I prefer >something loud; of course >inexpensive is a plus. Durablity lasting 3-5 years would be good. costs for an E30 go from ~$200 (oem/ bosal/ ansa/ 2-3 year life) to ~$700 (supersprint, remus, stebro, etc) steel (or aluminized steel) will last a couple of years, stainless steel will last for ever.. although you have to watch out, some of the pricey mufflers have stainless steel cans and aluminized steel pipes.. who cars if the can lasts forever if all the pipes rust out after 2 years?? how loud is loud? I got a dynomax can & had the local muffler shop weld on some pipe to fit my '74 2002 and it sets off car alarms.. was dirt cheap for the whole deal (<$100) but is fairly noisy. Dynomax are available everywhere and are excellent flowing (straight through!!) but need welding to make 'em fit. I've taken the car on long road trips, and at 75mph the exhaust is no louder than the wind noise (flying brick!) so it's not a big deal. I also helped a friend install a 'cherry bomb' $20 muffler on his MR2 (he's a student with no cash!). It is now too loud to drive anywhere for extended periods.. uncomfortable drone!!!! (it took a few months for all the fiberglass to disintegrate) I have a Stebro (http://www.stebro.net) system on my E30 325i and it sounds awesome. Great growl at idle and off the line, but no resonance or booming at highway speeds, and it's a completely free flow design (no baffles). They also have euro resonators that bolt right in (if you remove your cat for off road use). there are 3 basic muffler technologies out there - -baffles- pipe comes in and extends into the can, has holes in it, and a separate pipe leaves, with holes it it, and maybe some baffles in and around them.. quiet, but not great flowing.. OEM and most generic mufflers are like this - -perforated tube- pipe goes straight through the can in one end and out the other.. pipe has holes and is wrapped with noise absorbing material. Excellent flow/power, but lots of noise. Triflow, dynomax and others are like this. This is how 'glasspaks' 'cherry bombs' and other cheapo performance mufflers are also made.. although they use fiberglass as the sound absorbing material.. it burns up and blows out after a short while making them get louder and louder they age. Quality systems use stainless steel wool, rock wool, and other stuff to absorb the sound. These also will last a little longer than fiberglass!! - -absorbing can- the whole can is left empty (no pipes or baffles inside) except for sound absorbing material around the walls.. flow is totally unrestricted but sound waves bounce around and are absorbed.. Excellent flow and power, but not too loud. Stebro makes these. You can see right through my muffler with a flashlight, but with the windows closed on the highway cruising at 85mph it's as quiet as OEM. For cheap and loud, but mostly legal, get a Dynomax. I'd avoid the cherry bomb really cheap stuff.. it's uncomfortably loud and drones. For even cheaper and louder, a straight pipe (or bent and exiting out the side of the car) is even better but bring ear plugs or wear your helmet all the time :) ya, like *that* won't attract attention!! For everything else, there are lots of good systems, it will mostly come down to 'which sound do I like better'. Chris Pawlowicz '89 325i (Stebro, mellow growl) '74 2002 (Dynomax, almost like a Harley) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:36:46 -0700 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Range Rover P38 Valve Covers I can't believe how tough it was to find a 5/16 12 point socket for my 1998 Range Rovers P38s valve cover bolts (almost every place I went to only had 6 point). I happened to find one at Orchard Supply Hardware (now owned by Sears). I also bought a set of the new Craftsman locking 1/4" extenders that work great. All 8 of my valve cover bolts were real loose. Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:28:29 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E38 Transmission Noise So my father has a '95 740i. A trusted mechanic recently changed the "lifetime" transmission fluid and now the transmission whines. It's driving my father crazy. The mechanic says he used a BMW brand filter and I have no reason to doubt him. Anyone know how to fix this? - - Mark - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6568 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . BMW technical information, special tool sales/rental | http://www.koalamotorsport.com | |==================================================== | | Taylor BMW - http://www.taylorbmw.com - Doc Bimmer! | |==================================================== | Turner Motorsport Inc . 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