[uucdigest]           Sunday, July 20 2003           Volume 03 : Number 6579



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       [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions
       Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions
       [uuc] Range Rover P38 Headlight Bulbs
       Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions
       RE: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions
       Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions
       [uuc] happy headlights

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:52:11 -0400
From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions

Well...The Wife is pushing for a more "reasonable" car than the M3/4 that
she's driving.  She loves the power, but is realizing that we need a hauling
vehicle in the household.  She's a bit spoiled by the power, though, and I
don't know that a 528it will keep her properly entertained.  As much as I'd
like to stay with an inline 6 based car, it looks like we're headed for a
V8.

I'm trying to get a sense of any hotspots to worry about with the V8
powerplant? the E39 platform in general?  Is there a good E39 page out
there?  I'm very familiar with the E36 platform.

Yes, my wife is reassuring me that I'm next in line to get her M3/4.  That
leaves me wondering about what to do with Webster...There may be a hi mile
but very healthy 1993 325i on the market soon.  we'll see...

Marc Plante
E36 325i, 214k
going...going???
Vienna VA

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:51:48 -0700
From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions

Marc

I would buy the 528it, slap on a conforti intake, a nice exhaust and a 
chip.
If you really want power, you can also go for the E36 M3 cams.

I think you would find the steering in the 528it better than the 
steering in the 540i.

And there is nothing like a sweet inline-6, and **definitely** nothing 
like an S14 revving at 7800.

Bora
#236 JP BMWCCA-CR (S14 inside)
2002 MCS (daily dose of motoring fun)

On Saturday, Jul 19, 2003, at 17:52 US/Pacific, Marc Plante wrote:

> Well...The Wife is pushing for a more "reasonable" car than the M3/4 
> that
> she's driving.  She loves the power, but is realizing that we need a 
> hauling
> vehicle in the household.  She's a bit spoiled by the power, though, 
> and I
> don't know that a 528it will keep her properly entertained.  As much 
> as I'd
> like to stay with an inline 6 based car, it looks like we're headed 
> for a
> V8.
>
> I'm trying to get a sense of any hotspots to worry about with the V8
> powerplant? the E39 platform in general?  Is there a good E39 page out
> there?  I'm very familiar with the E36 platform.
>
> Yes, my wife is reassuring me that I'm next in line to get her M3/4.  
> That
> leaves me wondering about what to do with Webster...There may be a hi 
> mile
> but very healthy 1993 325i on the market soon.  we'll see...
>
> Marc Plante
> E36 325i, 214k
> going...going???
> Vienna VA
>
>

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 19:15:58 -0700
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Range Rover P38 Headlight Bulbs

Does the Range Rover P38 use the same H4 bulbs as the Range Rover Classic
did (I know all the RR Classics in the US came with crappy sealed beams)?

Kevin

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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:39:47 -0700
From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions

After doing all that work (parts and labor) you've probably made up the 
premium for the V8.  None of that stuff will get you the low end grunt 
of the 4.4L V-8.  I honestly can't imaging driving a piggy E39 without 
the V8.  Turn off the DSC and you can throttle steer until the rear 
tires disappear in smoke.  Plus the steering in the V8 isn't that 
horrible.  Get the 6spd.

Note: the leg room in the E39 isn't that much better than an E36.  If 
she doesn't mind a big car look at the last 7 series.  I was pleasantly 
surprised at how that thing drove for a boat of a car.

Marco
95 M3 196 IP Club racer
01 540i family car (replaced the 93 E36 325is)
02 Chebby Avalanche - tow vehicle
04 Lotus Elise? (may replace the M3)

Bora Akyol (BMW) wrote:
> Marc
> 
> I would buy the 528it, slap on a conforti intake, a nice exhaust and a 
> chip.
> If you really want power, you can also go for the E36 M3 cams.
> 
> I think you would find the steering in the 528it better than the 
> steering in the 540i.
> 
> And there is nothing like a sweet inline-6, and **definitely** nothing 
> like an S14 revving at 7800.
> 
> Bora
> #236 JP BMWCCA-CR (S14 inside)
> 2002 MCS (daily dose of motoring fun)
> 
> On Saturday, Jul 19, 2003, at 17:52 US/Pacific, Marc Plante wrote:
> 
>> Well...The Wife is pushing for a more "reasonable" car than the M3/4 that
>> she's driving.  She loves the power, but is realizing that we need a 
>> hauling
>> vehicle in the household.  She's a bit spoiled by the power, though, 
>> and I
>> don't know that a 528it will keep her properly entertained.  As much 
>> as I'd
>> like to stay with an inline 6 based car, it looks like we're headed for a
>> V8.
>>
>> I'm trying to get a sense of any hotspots to worry about with the V8
>> powerplant? the E39 platform in general?  Is there a good E39 page out
>> there?  I'm very familiar with the E36 platform.
>>
>> Yes, my wife is reassuring me that I'm next in line to get her M3/4.  
>> That
>> leaves me wondering about what to do with Webster...There may be a hi 
>> mile
>> but very healthy 1993 325i on the market soon.  we'll see...
>>
>> Marc Plante
>> E36 325i, 214k
>> going...going???
>> Vienna VA
>>
>>
> 
> 

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:54:14 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions

Ah, the dream of a 6-spd E39 TOURING.  Alas, Marco, I believe that Marc
is/was considering a 540iT.  Never came available with a manual... and
5-spds in the six cylinder wagons are rare rare rare indeed.  My friend Ray
was/is considering pulling a Brett - switching a 6-spd into a 540iT auto.

What would it take to convince BMW to make the next gen M5 available in a
touring model?  Even if they priced it at, say, a $13k premium, they would
still sell several hundred, not to mention win all sorts of kudos from
enthusiasts....

vty,

- --Dennis

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of marco
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions


After doing all that work (parts and labor) you've probably made up the
premium for the V8.  None of that stuff will get you the low end grunt
of the 4.4L V-8.  I honestly can't imaging driving a piggy E39 without
the V8.  Turn off the DSC and you can throttle steer until the rear
tires disappear in smoke.  Plus the steering in the V8 isn't that
horrible.  Get the 6spd.

Note: the leg room in the E39 isn't that much better than an E36.  If
she doesn't mind a big car look at the last 7 series.  I was pleasantly
surprised at how that thing drove for a boat of a car.

Marco
95 M3 196 IP Club racer
01 540i family car (replaced the 93 E36 325is)
02 Chebby Avalanche - tow vehicle
04 Lotus Elise? (may replace the M3)

Bora Akyol (BMW) wrote:
> Marc
>
> I would buy the 528it, slap on a conforti intake, a nice exhaust and a
> chip.
> If you really want power, you can also go for the E36 M3 cams.
>
> I think you would find the steering in the 528it better than the
> steering in the 540i.
>
> And there is nothing like a sweet inline-6, and **definitely** nothing
> like an S14 revving at 7800.
>
> Bora
> #236 JP BMWCCA-CR (S14 inside)
> 2002 MCS (daily dose of motoring fun)
>
> On Saturday, Jul 19, 2003, at 17:52 US/Pacific, Marc Plante wrote:
>
>> Well...The Wife is pushing for a more "reasonable" car than the M3/4 that
>> she's driving.  She loves the power, but is realizing that we need a
>> hauling
>> vehicle in the household.  She's a bit spoiled by the power, though,
>> and I
>> don't know that a 528it will keep her properly entertained.  As much
>> as I'd
>> like to stay with an inline 6 based car, it looks like we're headed for a
>> V8.
>>
>> I'm trying to get a sense of any hotspots to worry about with the V8
>> powerplant? the E39 platform in general?  Is there a good E39 page out
>> there?  I'm very familiar with the E36 platform.
>>
>> Yes, my wife is reassuring me that I'm next in line to get her M3/4.
>> That
>> leaves me wondering about what to do with Webster...There may be a hi
>> mile
>> but very healthy 1993 325i on the market soon.  we'll see...
>>
>> Marc Plante
>> E36 325i, 214k
>> going...going???
>> Vienna VA
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:45:34 -0400
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions

Its been reported in the press that there will be a M5 touring of the next
model

Mike
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: RE: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions


> Ah, the dream of a 6-spd E39 TOURING.  Alas, Marco, I believe that Marc
> is/was considering a 540iT.  Never came available with a manual... and
> 5-spds in the six cylinder wagons are rare rare rare indeed.  My friend
Ray
> was/is considering pulling a Brett - switching a 6-spd into a 540iT auto.
>
> What would it take to convince BMW to make the next gen M5 available in a
> touring model?  Even if they priced it at, say, a $13k premium, they would
> still sell several hundred, not to mention win all sorts of kudos from
> enthusiasts....
>
> vty,
>
> --Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of marco
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [uuc] E39 540it purchase questions
>
>
> After doing all that work (parts and labor) you've probably made up the
> premium for the V8.  None of that stuff will get you the low end grunt
> of the 4.4L V-8.  I honestly can't imaging driving a piggy E39 without
> the V8.  Turn off the DSC and you can throttle steer until the rear
> tires disappear in smoke.  Plus the steering in the V8 isn't that
> horrible.  Get the 6spd.
>
> Note: the leg room in the E39 isn't that much better than an E36.  If
> she doesn't mind a big car look at the last 7 series.  I was pleasantly
> surprised at how that thing drove for a boat of a car.
>
> Marco
> 95 M3 196 IP Club racer
> 01 540i family car (replaced the 93 E36 325is)
> 02 Chebby Avalanche - tow vehicle
> 04 Lotus Elise? (may replace the M3)
>
> Bora Akyol (BMW) wrote:
> > Marc
> >
> > I would buy the 528it, slap on a conforti intake, a nice exhaust and a
> > chip.
> > If you really want power, you can also go for the E36 M3 cams.
> >
> > I think you would find the steering in the 528it better than the
> > steering in the 540i.
> >
> > And there is nothing like a sweet inline-6, and **definitely** nothing
> > like an S14 revving at 7800.
> >
> > Bora
> > #236 JP BMWCCA-CR (S14 inside)
> > 2002 MCS (daily dose of motoring fun)
> >
> > On Saturday, Jul 19, 2003, at 17:52 US/Pacific, Marc Plante wrote:
> >
> >> Well...The Wife is pushing for a more "reasonable" car than the M3/4
that
> >> she's driving.  She loves the power, but is realizing that we need a
> >> hauling
> >> vehicle in the household.  She's a bit spoiled by the power, though,
> >> and I
> >> don't know that a 528it will keep her properly entertained.  As much
> >> as I'd
> >> like to stay with an inline 6 based car, it looks like we're headed for
a
> >> V8.
> >>
> >> I'm trying to get a sense of any hotspots to worry about with the V8
> >> powerplant? the E39 platform in general?  Is there a good E39 page out
> >> there?  I'm very familiar with the E36 platform.
> >>
> >> Yes, my wife is reassuring me that I'm next in line to get her M3/4.
> >> That
> >> leaves me wondering about what to do with Webster...There may be a hi
> >> mile
> >> but very healthy 1993 325i on the market soon.  we'll see...
> >>
> >> Marc Plante
> >> E36 325i, 214k
> >> going...going???
> >> Vienna VA
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 07:57:10 -0600
From: "Bob Sutterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] happy headlights

Yesterday I installed on my 87 E30 325iS a set of four Cibie CSR
headlamps, Osram H1 55W Super High Efficiency Plus 50 bulbs, three Hella
relays in sockets, and 12 gauge wires to carry lots of electrons forward
to the photon conversion zone.  This replaced the pitiable factory
sealed-beam halogen lights and skinny wires.

Though I'm comfortable DIYing lots of stuff on our cars, this was my
first wiring job, and my first time working with relays.  The vendor's
online diagrams didn't match my setup, so I used his emailed description
(which also didn't quite correspond, but helped me understand the
purpose of the 3rd relay) and figured out several of my own connections.
I used the large +12V post on the RH side of the firewall, and the
- -ground post on the RH strut tower.  I mounted the relays at the front
of the RH inner fender, just behind the RF headlights, so the plastic
trim covers my wiring.  Power and ground to the LH lights travels above
the aux fan shroud.  Since I have rather poor soldering skills, I used
all crimp-on tongue-in-socket connectors, trimmed with heat-shrink
tubing.  I left the factory relays and fuses and wiring and sockets in
place (just in case) and used the factory sockets as sources of signal
to actuate the new relays.  After a day of effort and head-scratching I
was surprised and pleased when it all worked correctly on the first try
:-)

I couldn't be more delighted with the test-drive results.  There's a lot
of light, it's very white, it's spread nicely where it should be, and it
doesn't go where it shouldn't.  The high beams reach way, way down the
road.  The vendor advised against 100W bulbs in the highs, saying merely
55W would be sufficient, and now I understand why: the CSR optics are
simply excellent.  

I have two complaints so far: 
1) The "low beam" alert glows on the check control panel because the
relay doesn't consume as much juice as a bulb.  I'll solve that with a
piece of black tape.
2) The thin clear plastic covers (rock guards) didn't fit, either over
the retainer ring or between the lamp and the ring.  Haven't figured
that one out yet...

I got the hardware from Daniel Stern Lighting at http://lighting.mbz.org
and the wire and connectors at my local Home Depot.  Stern's
responsiveness, personal service, and product knowledge are exemplary.
He has been available at every step along the way to answer questions
and provide advice.  I would not hesitate to recommend his products and
services to anyone who needs to see where they're going.
- --
Bob Sutterfield
'87 E30 325iS http://bmwe30.net #1129 DAS KAR
'88 E28 535iS http://m535i.org   #154 IHR FUNF
'93 T4 EV MV Weekender BELUGA
BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter

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