[uucdigest]          Tuesday, July 22 2003          Volume 03 : Number 6587



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       RE: [uuc] pic request, E46 M3 colors
       [uuc] 540iT vs suburban [kids, roadtrips]
       RE: [uuc] <E30> Sparco strut brace
       Re: [uuc] flaky power seat controls
       Re: [uuc] AFM questions
       [uuc] re:  M20 head tear down q's
       Re: [uuc] flaky power seat controls
       Re: [uuc] 540iT vs Suburban
       [uuc] Headlight washers/wipers
       [uuc] E36 engine transplant project

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:57:21 -0400
From: "Matt Malfa * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] pic request, E46 M3 colors

Your best bet: http://members.roadfly.com/loki/faqtext.html#photos

- - -Matt

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jay G


hey gruppe...i've been searching the net for pics of
titanium silver and silver gray E46 M3 coupes next to each
other, but i didnt find anything...i wanna compare these two
colors next to each other, under the same lighting
conditions...anyone have pics of these two colors side by
side, maybe from a bimmerphile meet, auto-x, or track
event???  any pics/links/leads greatly appreciated...thanx
in advance!!!

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 01:07:29 -0700
From: Matt Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 540iT vs suburban [kids, roadtrips]

> From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [uuc] 540iT vs Suburban
> > Just wait till you have two kids, big dog and 3 weeks worth of
> > luggage for a 2700 mile road trip :-)

Actually, my wife and I just took our first roadtrip together in the wagon.
We drove from seattle to minneapolis in about 22 hours, taking 4 hour shifts.
We covered 1000 miles the first day and the remaining 660 the second.  We
broke up the driving the same way on the way back.  It was wonderful.  On
the way there we fit all the luggage in the trunk with the scrolling trunk lid
cover covering the whole cargo compartment.  On the way back we brought home
two 4x3ft paintings and a bunch of camping gear, so that spilled into the 
back seats.  We didn't have any kind of roof carrier though :)

My wifes father is 6'6 and fits comfortably in the back seat of the car.
The rear legroom floored me for a european car.

> > Then you will think that a Suburban (or in my case a 2500HD crew cab)
> > may be just what the doctor ordered. Did I also mention that it gets
> > over 20 mpg on the freeway over that same 2700 mile trip while 
> > carrying all this junk.

Maybe so :)  We got right around 26MPG, cruise control locked at limit+10
but starts from rest stops and gas stations getting up to speed in 3rd gear
the limit for most of the drive was 75, so we were doing 85mph and getting 
26mpg, which i am happy with for a 2.8L motor (that had the A/C cranked - it
was 103 in Montana!)

We're probably going to make the same trip next summer, except hopefully will
bring our ~60lb dog as well.  If so, she'll get the trunk compartment with
a nice divider panel, meaning the majority of the luggage will need to go into
a rack enclosure.  If we can pull that off, then we've got 2 adults, 2 kids,
a dog, and luggage for 4 into a wagon :)  Hopefully the roof carrier wouldn't
knock off 7MPG :)

> > Power of modern diesel engines,

VW is introducing a Passat with a TDI motor; I might have talked my wife into
one had it been available.  The VW 2.0 base gasoline motor is so utterly 
gutless i don't know how they sell any of them as opposed to TDI Golfs/Jettas.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:14:17 -0400
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] <E30> Sparco strut brace

> 
> Which also raises another question - if fitting one of these 
> requires some
> persuasion, is the resulting alignment change significant?   
> It seems like
> you'd lose at least some effective negative camber, and not 
> necessarily
> with any symmetry.  I have a Sparco bar sitting and waiting for
> installation, with the bolt holes only slightly off (less than 1/4").

Somewhat agreed.  Not only that, I really don't think you'd gain that much
from using one anyway (on an M3 anyway).  I would think one would see a much
more profound effect from adding the E30 M3 cabrio strut tower
re-inforcements.  However, those require removal of interfering parts (all
of which will fit back in), welding in the braces, painting & treating &
then re-installing the interfering parts.

Look at it this way, there's a reason the touring cars had a welded-in
bar.....

> 
> -John

Lee 

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:16:32 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] flaky power seat controls

"Edwin stanton MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The end of the cable has come out of the gearbox. Shorten the cable 
> housing.

Ed,
Thanks for your reply.
What is the best way to access the cable/gearbox (under the seat?)?
Via the back of the seat or from underneath it?

> You are talking a Lamborghini, right?

Sorry, my bad. I should know better by now.
The car is a '98 328i with sports package electric seats. Same seats as in 
4-door M3s.

alex f

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Guys,
> >My wife just called from the road complaining that her seat back 
> >controls are dead. The back will recline, but not come back up.
> >All other controls work. She hears a 'click' when pressing the 
> >seat back 'upright' button, but nothing happens.
> >
> >Any BTDTs?
> >
> >TIA,
> >alex f

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:30:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] AFM questions

 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:25:43 -0400
From: "Michael McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] AFM questions

engines that run lean at high rpm's (especially under
load) do tend to 
blow
up. pinging is a very bad thing, as is high cylinder
temps.
though I don't think that someone messing with the AFM
would generally 
cause
this on motronic 1. the AFM isn't used at higher
RPM's. (usually not 
past
3k). iirc, motronic 1 doesn't learn either. so the
fueling at higher 
RPM's
is based on the maps only. no AFM input.

if you are lean at high RPM's I'd check fuel pressure
and also check 
the
injectors. clogged injectors can cause this, as can a
weak/failing fuel
pump.

- - -Michael McCoy


Thanks Michael,
I believe you are correct. This is the scenario of how
my 1987 Euro 325i Motronic 1.0 engine blew up;
The engine never really ran all that well in the three
years I've had it. Being a European engine it was
never equipped with an O2 sensor, which made
troubleshooting on my part that much more difficult.
Eventually I fooled the ECU with additional resistance
in the temp sensor line. Then it failed NYS emissions,
all three readings were double the limit. I removed
the sensor and it passed with a "CO" adjustment and an
exhaust repair.
Still it had a rough off idle low speed rough running
problem. I had previously swapped out the ECU with
another correct one and no change so it wasn't that.
 I had known that in it's past life someone had opened
the AFM, I know 'cause Bosch doesn't use RTV blue to
seal them with! So after extensive research I decided
to 'adjust' the spring tension. It made some
difference but not much. I saw some glue on the wiper
position screw which also didn't look factory but I
was hesitant to change its position, all I noticed was
that when I biased it alittle the car ran great but I
was still hesitant. And no adjustment of spring
tension could get it this smooth.
    So I won one on Ebay, at least I'd have one to
compare with. While waiting for my purchase to arrive
I decided to adjust the position, a very slight
difference. It ran great, the best since I ever had
it, I was in heaven. When the new one arrived I tried
it out. Though it was advertised for 86-91 325i's it
was, in fact an earlier version which is logarithmic
in response as opposed to linear which my engine
wanted to see. 
That's OK it only cost my a dollar (for sale if anyone
is interested only opened by me and not monkeyed
with!)
Put my AFM back in and went for a test drive around
the block. Ran smooth, let see if it still has power,
Power shifted from 1st to second of an opened Northern
Blvd and BOOM Big puff of grey smoke and I was rolling
into the Burger King parking lot.
Engine seized, no more coolant in the radiator,
melted(or mashed) #1 spark plug (the others looked OK)
and tons of water in oil and throttle body.
I haven't pulled the head yet but it doesn't look too
good through the spark plug holes.
 I'm going out to pull the head now.
Sorry this is so long but I've been trying to include
all pertinent clues.
Thanks, John

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:35:20 -0400
From: "Beaudette, Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] re:  M20 head tear down q's

Brett,

As far as the cam, I was thinking more along the line of a regrind that
would alter the cam profile.  Ireland offers a 270 deg cam profile as a
regrind.  I was concerned about the material properties of the cam- is it
through hardened or just case hardened?  Not much point in a regrind if it
exposes the softer base material.  The new profile is what led me to wonder
if new eccentrics would be required.

Cheers,

Roland
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:12:31 -0400
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] M20 head tear down- rocker shafts & cam q's

Rocker arm shafts.  Removing the plugs is not really a good idea.  Get a
longer dowel and continue as you have been.   Even though the factory
originally intended for the plugs to be removed from the shaft, and a slide
hammer used to remove them, they then came up with a very long dowel to use
instead.

Reason being, if you fail to reinstall the plugs correctly, you will lose
oil pressure.

If the rockers are pitted, replace them.  Considering the M20's propensity
to break rockers, it's good preventative maintenance anyway.

Cam regrinds are for the birds.  The only true way to do it is to hotweld
the lobes, then regrind to original size.  Otherwise, in order to retain the
duration and lift, you have to reduce the base circle, which causes
problems with rocker adjustment.  Beside that, by the time you get it
reground, you'll have spent as much money as a replacement cam.

Brett Anderson
KMS

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:44:57 -0400
From: Edwin stanton MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] flaky power seat controls

Wrong answer for your car then. I understand that the later E36 had 
gearbox failures rather than cables like in E24, E28, E23, E32 and E34 cars.

You'll need advice from someone with newer cars, as my only seat issues 
on the E36 are airbag related cables to the seat belt receptacles.

Ed

>Sorry, my bad. I should know better by now.
>The car is a '98 328i with sports package electric seats. Same seats as in 
>4-door M3s.
>

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] 540iT vs Suburban

Longgevity? I had a 740 turbo wagon that saw 250K of
heavy use. 

And no, I used the dealer as little as possible. AC,
power steering, suspension, faulty air bag, radiator,
wheel bearings, exhaust, drive shaft, trans, the list
goes on on reasons NOT to own an E34 touring. Oh, did
I mention the double sun roof?

Jason 
- --- John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > upgrades it is more than capable. I tow a 17ft
> boat
> > and a camper with it without any issues.
> 
> I would not bet on the long-term longevity of the
> Volvo's drivetrain in 
> that use.
> 
> > to the "road" version of the wagon for that. I
> loved
> > my touring, but the maintenance was KILLING me.
> Geeze,
> > $800-1500 everytime I turned around. Time for the
> > money pit to go.  JMHO.
> 
> Sounds to me like you were going to the dealer.
> 
> John.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:53:48 -0400
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Headlight washers/wipers

> Is there a particular model of BMW ??

Well, I'll take anything I can get, but this was specifically for an E30.  I would 
imagine that there would be some good information regardless of the vehicle of that 
period (E28, E24, etc.) since the systems weren't too different.  I am specifically 
looking for info that may help me make it more like the factory set-up like the tubing 
and wiring installation.

Best regards,

Rich

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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:54:41 -0400
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E36 engine transplant project

> A new S54 long engine is only in the mid $3000 range these days.  High
> volume for replacements has brought down the price.

Along with creative accounting where warranty replacements brought that number way 
down from nearly $12k each originally...

Regards,

Rich

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