[uucdigest]         Saturday, August 9 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6646



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] 5 3/4" Headlamp Dimensional Standards?
       [uuc] E30, e32, e34 - Headlamp Conversion Kit Marketing Survey
       Re: [uuc] E30, e32, e34 - Headlamp Conversion Kit Marketing Survey
       [uuc] E30 Bumpers
       Re: [uuc] E30 Bumpers
       RE: [uuc] Driving School vs. Racing School - results
       [uuc] Fraud Warning - Ryan Harker
       [uuc] BMW now coming after www.minicooperonline.com
       Re: [uuc] E30 Bumper Weight
       Re: [uuc] BMW now coming after www.minicooperonline.com
       Re: [uuc] Fraud Warning - Ryan Harker

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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:09:54 -0500
From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] 5 3/4" Headlamp Dimensional Standards?

I'm going to try to turn my melted ellipsoid headlights into holders for
standard 5 3/4" headlamps.  Is there a place online where I can get a good
drawing (or even a crappy drawing, I guess) of standard headlight mounting
features?  Mainly the correct size and location of the tabs on the back of
the lamps and the distance from those tabs to the bead where the trim ring
sits.  Any standard clearance dimensions for the reflectors would also be
good to know.

Thanks

Karl Zemlin
'94 525i touring - visually impared.

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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:30:43 -0500
From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E30, e32, e34 - Headlamp Conversion Kit Marketing Survey

As I contemplate the best approach for mounting Hella H4 (or other e-code)
headlamps in my e34, it has occurred to me that perhaps I'm not the only
person who would want to do this.

If I were to come up with a high-quality conversion kit - the approach I'm
thinking of would replace only the low-beam ellipsoid unit on an E30, E32,
or E34 (I'm assuming that all three cars use the same lamp module - I'd have
to research that further) would there be enough interested people to make it
worth my while?

These would be produced using low-volume techniques, so the parts would be
fairly expensive.  I believe I would use the mounting/adjusting hardware
from the old ellipsoid lamp, and probably the chrome trim ring as well -
with some modifications necessary.

My gut tells me that the kit with two mounts for low-beams would cost about
$120 US.  It would require some minor rewiring and stripping the hardware
from the ellipsoid lamps.  I could make a similar kit for high-beams, but I
don't see that as being quite as important.

Would you pay $120 for a kit so you could install Cibie or Hella E-Code
low-beam lamps in your car?

How I proceed will be determined by the response I get.  If the response is
good enough I will start designing the pard.  If the response is very light,
I will just hack apart my lamps and do what I can without any duplication.

Thanks!

Karl Zemlin
'94 525i touring - visually impared.

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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:31:49 -0700
From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30, e32, e34 - Headlamp Conversion Kit Marketing Survey

Can you please stop BCC'ing the email messages to the list.

Thanks

Bora

On Friday, Aug 8, 2003, at 20:30 US/Pacific, Karl Zemlin wrote:

> As I contemplate the best approach for mounting Hella H4 (or other 
> e-code)
> headlamps in my e34, it has occurred to me that perhaps I'm not the 
> only
> person who would want to do this.
>
> If I were to come up with a high-quality conversion kit - the approach 
> I'm
> thinking of would replace only the low-beam ellipsoid unit on an E30, 
> E32,
> or E34 (I'm assuming that all three cars use the same lamp module - 
> I'd have
> to research that further) would there be enough interested people to 
> make it
> worth my while?
>
> These would be produced using low-volume techniques, so the parts 
> would be
> fairly expensive.  I believe I would use the mounting/adjusting 
> hardware
> from the old ellipsoid lamp, and probably the chrome trim ring as well 
> -
> with some modifications necessary.
>
> My gut tells me that the kit with two mounts for low-beams would cost 
> about
> $120 US.  It would require some minor rewiring and stripping the 
> hardware
> from the ellipsoid lamps.  I could make a similar kit for high-beams, 
> but I
> don't see that as being quite as important.
>
> Would you pay $120 for a kit so you could install Cibie or Hella E-Code
> low-beam lamps in your car?
>
> How I proceed will be determined by the response I get.  If the 
> response is
> good enough I will start designing the pard.  If the response is very 
> light,
> I will just hack apart my lamps and do what I can without any 
> duplication.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Karl Zemlin
> '94 525i touring - visually impared.
>
>

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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E30 Bumpers

Marco:

Nice reference!  Didn't Lindbergh pull out extra pages
from his notebook to reduce weight on his flight? 
Makes Colin Chapman ("To go faster add lightness")
look like a Dynamat salesman!

Neil Deshpande

***

"Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
One weekend during a warmup session something just
didn't feel right.  After I pull into the paddock I
open up the trunk and see the spare wheel.  duh.  nice
preflight Lindbergh.  so yes- I know I felt a ~25lb difference.

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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 21:39:55 -0700
From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 Bumpers

I believe you're correct.  I read a biography on him a few years ago. 
Amazing guy.  He helped invent the heart lung machine or a dialysis 
pump, I forget which.  His politics were a bit misguided in the late 30s 
but all in all a very impressive figure.

Marco

Neil Deshpande wrote:
> Marco:
> 
> Nice reference!  Didn't Lindbergh pull out extra pages
> from his notebook to reduce weight on his flight? 
> Makes Colin Chapman ("To go faster add lightness")
> look like a Dynamat salesman!
> 
> Neil Deshpande
> 
> ***
> 
> "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> One weekend during a warmup session something just
> didn't feel right.  After I pull into the paddock I
> open up the trunk and see the spare wheel.  duh.  nice
> preflight Lindbergh.  so yes- I know I felt a ~25lb difference.
> 

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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 00:45:29 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] Driving School vs. Racing School - results

My $.02?

The decision as to driving school v. racing school depends a lot on what you
want to get out of it.  For many people, they want to experience what
driving at the limit is like, and what going OVER that limit is like.  For
them, a big plus is the training they receive in learning what to do AFTER
exceeding a particular limit.  Essentially, it's a "car control clinic" for
them.  And, of course, they get to have fun blowing around in other people's
cars.

As for racing school...  while you learn how to control a car at the limit,
I don't think you push the envelope quite as much.  You'll practice all
sorts of neat stuff, but the time spent on the TRACK is typically at
something less than 100%, as opposed to, say, the auto-x course of the wet
skidpad.  Physics IS physics, and you'll receive much of the same
theoretical underpinning, but the application IS a bit different between the
two.

As for maximum utility, I'll come down on the DRIVING school - for the
typical student, he or she will learn how to handle the vehicle once the
limits have been EXCEEDED, and the vehicle being driven is more like a
street car.

For fun?  Racing school, hands down!

vty,

- --Dennis

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Bell
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] Driving School vs. Racing School - results


I received from my wife the birthday present of time at a driving/racing
school.  I live in San Diego, so I limited my choice to the western states.
As it is August, I chose Skip Barber at Laguna Seca vs. Bondurant at Phoenix
(126 degrees!) or Derek Daley at Las Vegas (110 degrees!).  I asked all of
you on the Digest your recommendations.  I got a great response, and chose
the driving school vs. racing school. I went for 2 days and enjoyed myself.
With Skip Barber you drive the Dodge Dakota on the skid pad and use Neons
for emergency maneuver training.  The autocross is with a Viper ACR. All
cars had the ABS turned off.

However, I kept looking over to the people in the 3 day racing school doing
laps around Laguna Seca, while I'm in the infield on the autocross course or
the skidpad.

I concluded I should of done the racing school as they teach much the same
concepts (physics is physics, right?) and would be doing laps at 110mph (at
least on the straights) around Laguna Seca.

I do recommend anyone who's serious about autocrossing or just improving
their driving skills take the driving course.

Phil Bell
'02 530i

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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:24:28 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Fraud Warning - Ryan Harker

Just an FYI, do not buy/sell items with a Ryan Harker in Indianapolis.

I purchased a used 3.15 ltd slip diff "in great condition with 30K miles on
it" from him back in February, based on his ad on Roadfly.  The diff was
junk when I received it.  Totally unusable.

Repeated and lengthy requests for redress have gone completely unanswered
and I'm out $650.  I was willing to be reasonable and work with him, under
the assumption that he truly didn't know the diff was all crunchy inside.
No dice.

Hopefully, I can save someone else the grief and $$'s.  Caveat Emptor.

- - Mark, finally burned by someone in the BMW Community
- --
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:40:31 -0700
From: Bora Akyol (BMW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] BMW now coming after www.minicooperonline.com

So BMW is now coming after www.minicooperonline.com
telling them to change the domain name or else.

And the funny part is that this is one of two sites
that people (before and after buying their cars) go for information.
Even a few mini dealers advertise on the site too.

Oh well, nothing like cutting the branch that you sit on.

Good job again BMW.

Bora

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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 01:52:00 -0400
From: "Mitchell Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 Bumper Weight

I weighed an 86 US Al  front bumper w/ shocks, fogs and all attached plastic
except side pieces.  ~25 lbs

Euro front bumper (Feded w/ reinforcements ~2-3 lbs) complete w/ all
mounting hardware and plastic.  ~12 lbs

>From the HTK:

86 US front bumper
Al bumper  5.406 kg
Shock  1.246 kg x 2
Mount .090 kg x 2
About 21 lbs w/o fogs and plastic

89 US plastic bumper
Bumper composite piece  3.978 kg
Shock 0.975 kg x 2
Mount  0.374 kg x 2
About 15 lbs less a lot of plastic



Don't own a plastic bumper car to check
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 Bumpers

Although I would still welcome
> definitive weights if someone has them.  Even if the weight savings were
> half that it would be worth it to me.
> It appears very easy to swap them?

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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 22:56:29 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] BMW now coming after www.minicooperonline.com

Bora Akyol   (BMW) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So BMW is now coming after www.minicooperonline.com
> telling them to change the domain name or else.
> 
> And the funny part is that this is one of two sites
> that people (before and after buying their cars) go for information.
> Even a few mini dealers advertise on the site too.
> 
> Oh well, nothing like cutting the branch that you sit on.
> 
> Good job again BMW.

Don't blame BMW.  Blame the trademark laws in this country.

By not coming after people who use their trademarks, BMW risks allowing them
to lapse into the public domain.

- - Mark
- --
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:10:28 -0700
From: marco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Fraud Warning - Ryan Harker

I almost got burned by a guy last year that was selling a used 
supersprint header for a lowball price on the TMS site.  I was going to 
pay via money order and he was going to ship the headers via UPS when I 
emailed him a scan of the cashiers check and a tracking number for 2 day 
delivery of the check.

Luckily I used Airborne Express which will hold the delivery (if you 
ask) at the nearest office to the addressee.  I had a feeling the deal 
was too good to be true.  So sure enough the scumbag sends me a bogus 
UPS tracking number.  So I told Airborne express to send the check back 
to me.

All I was out was the money order fee and the $14 for the airborne 
express delivery.

If you can't get a good reference on someone I highly recommend going 
the airborne express route.  I did call Will Turner and had the guy 
banned from using his site (at least under the name he was using) and I 
filed a complaint with the FBI internet fraud group.  Granted the FBI is 
probably way too busy chasing bigger fish but I liked sending a copy of 
the filing to the bastard ;-)

http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

Marco

Mark Dadgar wrote:
> Just an FYI, do not buy/sell items with a Ryan Harker in Indianapolis.
> 
> I purchased a used 3.15 ltd slip diff "in great condition with 30K miles on
> it" from him back in February, based on his ad on Roadfly.  The diff was
> junk when I received it.  Totally unusable.
> 
> Repeated and lengthy requests for redress have gone completely unanswered
> and I'm out $650.  I was willing to be reasonable and work with him, under
> the assumption that he truly didn't know the diff was all crunchy inside.
> No dice.
> 
> Hopefully, I can save someone else the grief and $$'s.  Caveat Emptor.
> 
> - Mark, finally burned by someone in the BMW Community
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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