[uucdigest] Thursday, September 11 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6738
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RE: [uuc] WTB e28 Bell Housing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 14:35:14 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M6 Wheels Yes. E34 and E38 wheels fit. Gary Derian > Hello > > Does the 5 series E-34 wheels (or any other Bimmer > wheels) fit the M6's ? > > The wheel off-set on the M6 is 19mm or 21mm, I think. > > TIA > > Henry > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:23:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] WTB e28 Bell Housing I was under the impression that the eta transmission didn't have a detachable bellhousing? If so, then I stand corrected. If not, are you just looking for the lower covering plate? Brad Couvillon ex-87 528e <-- had clutch and tranny from '85 528e - --- Jason Briedis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a bell housing from a > early e28 528e 5spd with the m20 motor. > If someone has one, drop me a line with > price. > > thanks! > -Jason __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:26:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] What's up w/ Gary? (was To find an affordable mechanic) Geez Gary! First, you actually ASK a question, and now you're having trouble properly answering others' questions. Is something wrong? ;-) Brad Couvillon <-- never properly answers questions - --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Changing oil, especially synthetic oil, at 3,000 > mile intervals is a waste > of time, money and resources. You can easily go > 7500 miles on synthetic > oil. > > Other than that, any local oil change place can do > it, if you don't mind the > risk of stripped drain plugs, etc. Getting to know > a good local shop where > the owner knows you by name is a good thing also, > but that was your question > wasn't it. > > Gary [no answer here] Derian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Wheels for sale They'll also fit e12, e24, e28 and probably e23, e32, e38. Brad Couvillon ex-87 528e <-- had 7" wheels with et22 offset '85 Euro 535i <-- stock M-Tech TRXes. . . until the Hartges come in www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- Steve Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a set of 4 MMII wheels. Two are bent two are > straight. Size 16x7 > ET22 mounted with almost gone Falken GR Beta 225 45 > series tires. They were > off my E30 M3 and I think they will also fit on an > E34 with different tires. > $200 and I can send pictures if needed. > > -Steve __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] M3 CSL Ben: I would go further and say that Dinan would not have the testing resources to know if had tuned a grenade (I don't mean obvious grenades, of course). Durability testing in the automotive industry is expensive and extensive, as you know. I cannot see a shop doing it. Nothing wrong with this at all. Just that you should know what you're getting into. Modern engines don't last as long as the over-designed over-weight earlier ones used to and no one complains. Dinan just takes it to the next level. Not with as much certainty, of course, but in the right general direction I'm sure. Neil Deshpande *** ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dinan's web site lists the S2 M2 thusly: > > HP 361 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPM vs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Torque 282 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPM vs [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find it interesting that Dinan is apparently able to get more power out of the same engine (with no internal modifications) than BMW ///M is able to get. and still have the engine meet CARB certification. I know BMW may make compromises with tuning that Dinan doesn't take (tho Dinan still have a warranty to consider, so they can't tune grenades and sell them) would tend to force the factory into a lower power figure, but I don't believe that Dinan is _that_ good. I'd like to see someone with their car before & after these mods who demonstrates the improved power & torque results. I bet that most all of the on-road performance advantage of the S2 is due to the change in the diff, which would improve acceleration to a great degree, rather than anything particularily magic that they do with the engine. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:19:33 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL Great degree? How so? A lower axle only helps in first gear, and only if the car is not traction limited. For great freeway acceleration, stay in 3rd or 4th gear. Gary Derian > > I bet that most all of the on-road performance advantage > of the S2 is due to the change in the diff, which would > improve acceleration to a great degree, rather than anything > particularily magic that they do with the engine. > > > > Ben > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:45:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M6 Wheels Henry, The M6, which is the e24 body style, is very similar (same chassis) to the e28 5-series, which I am more familiar with. Here is a list of wheels off the top of my head that will fit an e28: all e12 all e24 all e28 e30 M3 all e34 (15", 16", 17", and 18") all e36 (with spacers) e38 16" and also the 18" Style 5 and M-Parallel all e39 (with hubcentric rings) all e46 (with spacers) Quite possibly e23, e32, and any of the later models will fit, too. I've seen e28s with 14x6.5 steel wheels (stock for my '87 528e) and then I've seen a couple of Euro cars with 10" wide rear wheels, and then I've seen several e28s with 18" M-Parallels or other 18" wheel. You can fit a LOT under that wheelwell, but: 1) if the offset is too high you'll need a spacer 2) if the offset is too low or the width too high you may rub on the outer fender lip For #2, you'll need to roll -- or better yet, trim -- the rear fender lip. Here is a database that Shawn Doughtie created. He compiled all of the information that fellow e28 owners sent in on their wheel and tire combos. Everything (and more) on this list will fit an e28. http://home.mindspring.com/~scrappycrow/e28wheels.zip Regards, Brad Couvillon ex-87 528e '85 Euro 535i www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- henry butt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > Does the 5 series E-34 wheels (or any other Bimmer > wheels) fit the M6's ? > > The wheel off-set on the M6 is 19mm or 21mm, I > think. > > TIA > > Henry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:58:18 -0400 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL Gary Derian wrote: > Great degree? How so? quicker acceleration times, which people are overtly hung up on. I assume they retain the M3's trick diff but managed to change the ratio somehow, thus preserving it's traction level. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:08:00 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL I expect an E46 M3 to be traction limited in first gear. A lower gear will not improve acceleration. A lower gear will force an earlier shift and on average the power to the rear wheels will be the same. I know that many times a car feels faster with a lower gear, but when driven at the max, it doesn't make much difference, unless you are not traction limited in first gear. Gary Derian > Gary Derian wrote: > > > Great degree? How so? > > quicker acceleration times, which people are overtly hung > up on. I assume they retain the M3's trick diff but > managed to change the ratio somehow, thus preserving > it's traction level. > > > Ben > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:08:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] CCA Discounts for Businesses? Rob: >From the business point of view, is there _no_ advantage to the CCA membership? Your mail indicates not, but I thought I'd ask specifically. How do you think it came about? Agreed about shopping quality, but I work in the automotive industry where price often rules. Luckily, it does not affect many of the other interests I have. Neil Deshpande *** "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> About that "club member" thing... when I get asked that question about a "club discount", I respond with "I'm a club member too, so does that mean I can mark up your price 10%? It's only fair, I paid my dues too!" I get either stunned silence, or a chuckle where the person realizes how silly that "club discount" game really is. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:08:10 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] CCA Discounts for Businesses? I'm sure Rob was having a bad day. But..... when one sets their retail prices, they take into account the costs associated with the item, plus with running the business, and the margin they need to make in order to cover all those costs, plus make something for their effort. In addition to that, you have to be competitive with other companies selling similar products. It's not often that the entire market place can see the quality difference between the cheap stuff and the expensive stuff, so sellers of quality merchandise tend to make less profit than those with the junk. Giving a discount on an already low margin part can upset the balance of the business. Especially if it's more than a rare thing. Now, when you've got a BMW dealer that has multiple facets of the dealership covering the operation costs, it's easier for the parts department to make less money on X% of their sales. In businesses like Rob's, and mine, it's not so easy. As a result, a retailer is left with two choices. Take a hit, or raise all the prices across the board, by the discount amount, to cover you when someone claims the discount. Or, I guess, the third choice, which is not to offer discount prices. I prefer the third choice, it keeps me happy and my prices lower, considering 10% on my average sale would be $250, I think that a lot of people out there running my differentials would say thanks for not offering that 10% discount. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Deshpande > From the business point of view, is there _no_ > advantage to the CCA membership? Your mail indicates > not, but I thought I'd ask specifically. How do you > think it came about? > > Agreed about shopping quality, but I work in the > automotive industry where price often rules. Luckily, > it does not affect many of the other interests I have. > > Neil Deshpande ____________________________________ 100% Spam Control by SpamEnder Free Download and Trial http://www.spamender.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:09:07 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] WTB e28 Bell Housing Try Tom Tunnell. 440 845 9333. He had one a while back, not sure if he still does. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Briedis > I am looking for a bell housing from a > early e28 528e 5spd with the m20 motor. > If someone has one, drop me a line with > price. ____________________________________ 100% Spam Control by SpamEnder Free Download and Trial http://www.spamender.com/ ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6738 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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