[uucdigest] Friday, September 12 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6739
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[uuc] FREE OEM BMW Wheel Chocks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:10:17 -0400 From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] WTB e28 Bell Housing 1982 528e and 1985 535i/635i used the Getrag 265/6 also used in the E30 M3. The M30 shares it's bell housing with the S14. The M20 bell housing is unique to that motor. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad Couvillon > I was under the impression that the eta transmission > didn't have a detachable bellhousing? If so, then I > stand corrected. If not, are you just looking for the > lower covering plate? ____________________________________ 100% Spam Control by SpamEnder Free Download and Trial http://www.spamender.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:42:23 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:08:00 -0400 > From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL > > I expect an E46 M3 to be traction limited in first gear. A lower gear will > not improve acceleration. A lower gear will force an earlier shift and on > average the power to the rear wheels will be the same. > > I know that many times a car feels faster with a lower gear, but when driven > at the max, it doesn't make much difference, unless you are not traction > limited in first gear. a different differential ratio helps acceleration because it keeps the engine in the power band longer. Each successive gear is closer spaced than the previous (i.e. the rev drop from 1st to 2nd is greater then 2nd to 3rd); thus going to a shorter rear end ratio puts you in higher gears, which in turn means the revs don't drop as much. This is huge on a racetrack on slower turns -- the 2nd to 3rd gear drop is huge, but the 3rd to 4th gear drop is tolerable. I run a 4.10 instead of a 3.25 for this reason. Going to a shorter gear ratio is the poor-mans alternative to getting a close ratio gearbox. Scott E36 Euro 3.2L M3 with a 4.10 ratio and the E46 M3 variable lock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:55:21 -0400 From: "Nancy Fluharty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <WTB> Motorsport Wheels (E36 M3) Anyone got extra OE Motorsport twinspoke 17 x 7.5 wheels to sell? I've got one as a spare; looking to assemble a set for winter. Cheap and ugly (but straight) preferred. Bob Fluharty 95 M3 87 325is Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:46:43 -0500 (Central Standard Time) From: "David DeBord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FS or TRADE: 3.15 LSD from 95 M3 5sp I am looking for 3.38 or 3.46 LSD. Lemme know if you want to buy, sell, or trade. thanks d ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:59:48 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL For a race track I agree. The gear is then selected so you reach top speed in top gear at the end of the longest straight. Sometimes gearing for a specific corner is better. Some cars have extra wide overdrive gears which you don't want to use. It all depends. For street use, at least my type of street use, I want first gear to be low enough so I can spin tires, and top gear to be a reasonable compromise between decent pickup without downshifting and quiet and economical. If you can already spin tires in first gear, a lower gear will not help. Gary Derian > > > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:08:00 -0400 > > From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [uuc] M3 CSL > > > > I expect an E46 M3 to be traction limited in first gear. A lower gear will > > not improve acceleration. A lower gear will force an earlier shift and on > > average the power to the rear wheels will be the same. > > > > I know that many times a car feels faster with a lower gear, but when driven > > at the max, it doesn't make much difference, unless you are not traction > > limited in first gear. > > a different differential ratio helps acceleration because it keeps the > engine in the power band longer. Each successive gear is closer > spaced than the previous (i.e. the rev drop from 1st to 2nd is greater > then 2nd to 3rd); thus going to a shorter rear end ratio puts you in > higher gears, which in turn means the revs don't drop as much. > > This is huge on a racetrack on slower turns -- the 2nd to 3rd gear > drop is huge, but the 3rd to 4th gear drop is tolerable. I run a 4.10 > instead of a 3.25 for this reason. > > Going to a shorter gear ratio is the poor-mans alternative to getting > a close ratio gearbox. > > Scott > E36 Euro 3.2L M3 with a 4.10 ratio and the E46 M3 variable lock > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:56:10 -0400 From: Steve Lilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] For Sale: 2000 BMW 323i in PA, $17K Hi all, Sorry for the blast, but I figured someone here might be interested. I just ordered a new BMW 330i with the ZHP Performance Package, so my car is now for sale (available late-October). I'm located about an hour north of Philadelphia PA (Reading/Allentown). Here are the details: 2000 BMW 323i Sedan, VIN WBAAM3349YKC67646 Silver exterior/Gray Leather interior, 72K miles, 4-Door, 5-Speed, fully loaded w/ Sport-Premium Package, Moonroof, Xenons, Heated Power Seats, Harmon-Kardon, 6-disk CD, Folding Rear Seats, OBC, Cruise Control, Traction Control w/ABS, H&R Springs, Bilstein Shocks, Eibach Sways, AA Exhaust, Conforti Intake/SW, UUC Shortshifter, 328i Front Rotors, Mobil-1 Oil, Summer & Winter Wheels/Tires. Original owner w/ meticulous service records. Excellent condition; no accidents; clean title. $17,000. Steve: 610-670-9424; [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you'd like more info, please visit my web page at: http://home.earthlink.net/~m3steve/ Regards, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:13:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] CCA Discounts for Businesses? First of all, I didn't get the feeling that the original poster was referring to getting a discount when he mentioned he was a CCA member, so I'm not sure how this whole thing started. However, to comment on Rob's remarks: I understand business, and that offering a discount leads to less money in the business owner's pocket. If one chooses not to offer a CCA discount, that's completely at their discretion. In being notified of such, I'd like to hear, "I'm sorry, but we don't offer a CCA discount." However, if any vendor ever said to me, "I paid my dues too, can I raise your price 10%?", I would add a third sound to the two that Rob said he typically hears - that of a dial tone. Maybe it was just a bad day.... Neil KMS - Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm sure Rob was having a bad day. But..... when one sets their retail prices, they take into account the costs associated with the item, plus with running the business, and the margin they need to make in order to cover all those costs, plus make something for their effort.... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:59:11 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] CCA Discounts for Businesses? - ---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] CCA Discounts for Businesses? >Rob: >From the business point of view, is there _no_ >advantage to the CCA membership? Your mail indicates >not, but I thought I'd ask specifically. How do you >think it came about? First, let me point out that I am a huge proponent of the CCA and encourage all BMW enthusiasts (or potential future enthusiasts) to join. It is a great organization that offers, among other things, opportunities to meet other like-minded enthusiasts, learn a lot about their BMW, get access to CCA driving events, and of course a cool magazine. Heck, the Roundel magazine alone is worth the membership cost. For the regular member, all of these are fantastic advantages to CCA membership! But, like anything else, you get out of it what you put in. Joining the CCA should, in my opinion, open the door to a variety of BMW-related activities. It should not be a coupon book so you can save 10% on your next oil change... but it should present the contacts where you can find the right person to trust with your oil change, wheel bearing replacement, and eventually race car prep. There may be a marketing advantage to some businesses that have no other way to gain market share. They do not offer value-added service, assistance, or anything else. By making the customer think they are getting a "deal" (which invariably, they are not), they snake a sale from another vendor, a vendor perhaps better worth knowing for his technical knowledge or service, and at either the same price or an inconsequential difference. The term "penny wise and pound foolish" springs to mind, as does Wilde's definition of a fool, "he knows the price of everything and the value of nothing." I have a good idea how it came about. Around the early part of the 20th century, the rise of various groups, whether they were labor organizations, religious groups, special-interest groups, even specific "buyer's groups" lead to the building of certain buying structures where manufacturers (or food-growers, or service providers) would have a symbiotic relationship with that group. With guarantees of preferential buying attention, these vendors could offer savings with the surety of known sales volumes. Oddly enough, this is the structure of such organizations as Amway and Wal-Mart, but at the direct-to-consumer level is more reminiscent of Marxism or even soft Communism. Quite odd given the luxury-good nature of BMW ownership! Think about basic business; a vendor needs to make X% just to stay in business. He _will_ make that, and the customers _must_ pay it if the business relationship is to continue beyond short-term unprofitable product turn-over, otherwise the business fails and the customers lose that resource. If artificially high prices are required to satisfy the customer who expects a discount, then that is what happens - and in the end, the customer pays the same price, the vendor earns his X%, and everybody has played a game. Get rid of the game and build a relationship of trust and value. Think about it... it's like the shops that have "SPECIAL SALE!!!" ads screaming all the time, when nobody has ever bought at "regular" price. That's calling us, the customers, total idiots... with a smile. Same thing with "FREE SHIPPING!"... it's not free, it's built into the price, yet the customer is duped into thinking a special opportunity has become available. Would you rather deal with the vendor who is smirking at you because he is winning a game, or with with the vendor who is happy to help you as much as possible because his business is viable through the mutually-beneficial relationship he has with you? In simpler terms, the former are the crooks and the latter are the good guys. Neil N. made a point I would like to address: >However, to comment on Rob's remarks: I understand >business, and that offering a discount leads to less >money in the business owner's pocket. If one chooses >not to offer a CCA discount, that's completely at >their discretion. In being notified of such, I'd like >to hear, "I'm sorry, but we don't offer a CCA >discount." However, if any vendor ever said to me, "I >paid my dues too, can I raise your price 10%?", I >would add a third sound to the two that Rob said he >typically hears - that of a dial tone. It's not like I say that in a confrontational or serious way, Neil! There's a joking tone to it, and in 100% of the people I have said it to, they appreciate it. I feel there's a breakthrough of rationality which the customer appreciates, and they invariably place the order after we share a chuckle. No harm, no foul, no dial tone. I have a more personal relationship with our clientele, a setting where such banter is appropriate. - - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:04:56 -0700 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] FREE OEM BMW Wheel Chocks I was hunting for something in my parents basement and I found a box of random car stuff that I have not seen for at least 10 years including three black metal OEM BMW Wheel Chocks from an E21, E24 or E28. Before I throw the wheel chocks out I thought I would offer them to people on the list for FREE. You can pick them up in San Francisco or Marin or if you send me $3.85 each for postage I'll mail them anywhere in the U.S. via Priority Mail (one will just fit in to a USPS Flat Rate Priority Mail envelope). Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #6739 *************************** | | In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. |________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | | Autoscope-Motorsports - http://www.autoscope-motorsports.com | |==================================================== | | Koala MotorSport . 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