[uucdigest]        Monday, September 15 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6754



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] tire patch shape
       [uuc] wheel spinners (was anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or 
close to NJ?)
       Re: [uuc] Re: anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series
       Re: [uuc] wheel spinners 
       Re: [uuc] tire patch shape
       Re: [uuc] [OT] old tool restoration?
       Re: [uuc] wheel spinners (was anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series 
in or close to NJ?)
       Re: [uuc] tire patch shape
       [uuc] Re: tire patch shape
       RE: [uuc] wheel spinners (was anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series 
in or close to NJ?)
       Re: [uuc] wheel spinners 
       [uuc] Austin, TX:  Need Tools for Rear Bushing Install  
       RE: [uuc] wheel spinners 
       RE: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close 

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:37:47 -0400
From: "Dorffer, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] tire patch shape

> Interesting topic. Thank you, Gary.
> It's great to learn some of the principles behind what for me was only 
> intuitive.

Agreed.

> And while we're on this, why is it that a long narrow footprint provides 
> better traction in snow and rain?

To "cut" throw the snow so that the tread contacts more solid ground/pavement.  How 
did I do Gary D?

Regards,

Rich

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:38:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] wheel spinners (was anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in 
or close to NJ?)

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Marco Romani wrote:
> Anyway, he could always put a set of those cool "spinning" wheels on it.
> Those things sure impress me.
> 
> Matter of fact he wouldn't even need to buy real $2000 spinning wheels.  He
> could go to Kragen and buy "spinning wheel" hubcaps.  I'm not kidding.

Marco,

Are these the wheels (usually chromed) that have a spinning component on
them, so when the car comes to a stop, an outer disc or something is still
spinning?  Or are these the ones that look like they're spinning with
little speed lines drawn on them?  I've just started seeing the former
around town, and they remind me of gladiatorial chariots in movies about
ancient Rome.  I didn't know you could pay $2000 for something like that. 

They seem to be on older Lincolns made fast-n-furious, and I thankfully
have not seen any on Bimmers yet (OBMWC). 

- --Andre

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:40:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series

I would be.  It shows they work on their car.

:-)

Brad Couvillon
'85 Euro 535i
www.fatdaddybmw.com



- --- david kroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> No matter what you buy, if you want to impress
> someone, make sure the car is CLEAN.  Really CLEAN.
> 
> If you climb into a year old 7 series and there
> are black fingerprints on the door handles and a
> grey film on the windows are you going to be
> impressed?

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:41:58 -0400
From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] wheel spinners 

Andre asked:

>
> Are these the wheels (usually chromed) that have a spinning component on
> them, so when the car comes to a stop, an outer disc or something is still
> spinning?  Or are these the ones that look like they're spinning with
> little speed lines drawn on them?  I've just started seeing the former
> around town, and they remind me of gladiatorial chariots in movies about
> ancient Rome.  I didn't know you could pay $2000 for something like that.
>


I first heard of the wheels with a spinning component being installed on
SUVs.  I have seen some of these wheels on SUVS plus recently saw some on a
Firebird and a Buick Regal.

Dean

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:51:44 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] tire patch shape

Not bad for a guy who lives in Akron ;-).
Gary Derian

>
> To "cut" throw the snow so that the tread contacts more solid
ground/pavement.  How did I do Gary D?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:00:38 -0700
From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] [OT] old tool restoration?

At 01:19 PM 9/15/2003 +0000, Gilbert Hoffman wrote:
>Gruppe:
>
>My grandfather died a while ago. Our family is just starting to go through 
>the house to recover any worthwhile belongings. He had a fair amount of 
>hand tools. Most of them have a full compliment of surface rust due to 
>years of neglect. Is there a way to restore these tools to their former 
>states? Will they always be rusty? Any insight would be appreciated. TIA

I've used steel wool and oil to remove surface rust on tools - works fine 
for regular working tools, but will probably remove that surface patina 
that you get on really old, well-used tools.  So, don't do it on 
collectibles...

Jim Ochi

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:55:07 -0700
From: "J. Ochi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] wheel spinners (was anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series 
in or close to NJ?)

At 11:38 AM 9/15/2003 -0700, Andre Yew wrote:

>Are these the wheels (usually chromed) that have a spinning component on
>them, so when the car comes to a stop, an outer disc or something is still
>spinning?  Or are these the ones that look like they're spinning with
>little speed lines drawn on them?  I've just started seeing the former
>around town, and they remind me of gladiatorial chariots in movies about
>ancient Rome.  I didn't know you could pay $2000 for something like that.
>
>They seem to be on older Lincolns made fast-n-furious, and I thankfully
>have not seen any on Bimmers yet (OBMWC).

I have.  I was in the parking lot of some sort of chain drug store on Long 
Island, and a silver E46 pulled up and parked next to me, with the wheel 
things merrily spinning away.  Was going to make a smart-assed comment, but 
the driver was too busy yapping on his cell phone and adjusting his gold 
chains.  So, discretion became the better part of valor, and I went on my 
way.  Besides, his stereo was thumping so loud, he wouldn't have heard me 
anyway...

Jim Ochi

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:21:08 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] tire patch shape

Anything west of Philadelphia is Ohio or else it's California.  You're all the
same.  ;-)

- - Rob

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] tire patch shape


> Not bad for a guy who lives in Akron ;-).
> Gary Derian
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:24:06 -0500
From: Bob Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: tire patch shape

OK...enough of  those easy questions about how tires work...

What we really need to know is...how do women work, Gary?!   8^)

Bob

>
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:37:19 -0400
> From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: tire patch shape
>
> For rain, a narrower tire has to 1) push water a shorter distance, and 2)
> has less water to push.  For wide tires, the shortest water drain path is
> straight through the middle.  For narrow tires, the shortest path is to the
> sides.  Also, large tread blocks need to have a drain from the middle to the
> edge, say a V or U shape.
>
> For mud and snow, a narrow tire digs down to to the hard stuff.
>
> Gary Derian
>

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:47:25 -0700
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] wheel spinners (was anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series 
in or close to NJ?)

Yep, they're wheels with some spinning gizmo.  I haven't been close enough
to actually touch one.  I've heard that for a set of those in 22" with tires
will run upwards of $15K.  At least they were last year when they first came
out.

Marco

- -----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andre Yew
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] wheel spinners (was anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series
or 7-series in or close to NJ?)


On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Marco Romani wrote:
> Anyway, he could always put a set of those cool "spinning" wheels on it.
> Those things sure impress me.
>
> Matter of fact he wouldn't even need to buy real $2000 spinning wheels.
He
> could go to Kragen and buy "spinning wheel" hubcaps.  I'm not kidding.

Marco,

Are these the wheels (usually chromed) that have a spinning component on
them, so when the car comes to a stop, an outer disc or something is still
spinning?  Or are these the ones that look like they're spinning with
little speed lines drawn on them?  I've just started seeing the former
around town, and they remind me of gladiatorial chariots in movies about
ancient Rome.  I didn't know you could pay $2000 for something like that.

They seem to be on older Lincolns made fast-n-furious, and I thankfully
have not seen any on Bimmers yet (OBMWC).

- --Andre

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:48:07 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] wheel spinners 

Some are passive spinners - they are just attached and spin when the
wind/friction make them. There are some power spinners out there - they
can spin forward and backward on command (talk about a waste of your
money).

The "danger" is that if one of these pulls up at a cross street and you

a) see the wheels spinning when the car is stopped
b) see the wheels not spinning but the car did not stop
c) see the wheels spinning backwards

You could jab on the brakes - or fail to - thinking the car is doing
something it is not.

Dennis
M5 silver/black
330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale!

At 02:41 PM 09/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Andre asked:
>
> >
> > Are these the wheels (usually chromed) that have a spinning component on
> > them, so when the car comes to a stop, an outer disc or something is still
> > spinning?  Or are these the ones that look like they're spinning with
> > little speed lines drawn on them?  I've just started seeing the former
> > around town, and they remind me of gladiatorial chariots in movies about
> > ancient Rome.  I didn't know you could pay $2000 for something like that.
> >
>
>
>I first heard of the wheels with a spinning component being installed on
>SUVs.  I have seen some of these wheels on SUVS plus recently saw some on a
>Firebird and a Buick Regal.
>
>Dean

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:59:36 -0500
From: "Bill Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Austin, TX:  Need Tools for Rear Bushing Install  

In or near Austin:  Does anybody have the special tools for removing &
installing the rear subframe bushings and rear trailing arm bushings?  I
don't really have the $125+ to rent these from Koala.

Thanks,
Bill
'95 330ti
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:59:56 -0500
From: "Malcolm Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] wheel spinners 

Another potential danger would be pulling a stomach muscle from laughing
too hard...

Malcolm
'88 M5  - wheels only move when the car is in motion
'98 328i        - same
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Wynne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [uuc] wheel spinners 


Some are passive spinners - they are just attached and spin when the
wind/friction make them. There are some power spinners out there - they
can spin forward and backward on command (talk about a waste of your
money).

The "danger" is that if one of these pulls up at a cross street and you

a) see the wheels spinning when the car is stopped
b) see the wheels not spinning but the car did not stop
c) see the wheels spinning backwards

You could jab on the brakes - or fail to - thinking the car is doing
something it is not.

Dennis
M5 silver/black
330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale!

At 02:41 PM 09/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Andre asked:
>
> >
> > Are these the wheels (usually chromed) that have a spinning
component on
> > them, so when the car comes to a stop, an outer disc or something is
still
> > spinning?  Or are these the ones that look like they're spinning
with
> > little speed lines drawn on them?  I've just started seeing the
former
> > around town, and they remind me of gladiatorial chariots in movies
about
> > ancient Rome.  I didn't know you could pay $2000 for something like
that.
> >
>
>
>I first heard of the wheels with a spinning component being installed
on
>SUVs.  I have seen some of these wheels on SUVS plus recently saw some
on a
>Firebird and a Buick Regal.
>
>Dean

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:19:16 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [uuc] anybody got a good sub-$9K 5-series or 7-series in or close 

Chris Baker wrote:
> When my wife worked for Chrysler I drove her employee
> lease vehicle -  $25k or so Intrepid.  Never heard a word. 
> When she quit and I got to pick my next car, I picked up
> the '94 325i (this was in 2000) for about $16K.  All of a
> sudden I was being constantly told how I must be making
> too much money, being a BMW driver and all.

We still suffer from leftover "rich yuppie scum" stigma.

People at the office assume there's a typo on my For Sale
flyer, surely I can't be asking that little for my E30.  Of
course I tell them they're welcome to pay me whatever they
feel is a fair price :-)
- --
Bob Sutterfield
'?? E30 ///M3 ***in the hunt*
'87 E30 325iS ***FOR SALE*** http://sutcars.home.comcast.net/87BMW325iS.pdf
'88 E28 535iS IHR FUNF
'93 T4 EVW BELUGA
BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter

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