[uucdigest] Thursday, October 9 2003 Volume 03 : Number 6803
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Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] E36 fault code reader Re: [uuc] <E36> Coolant Leak [uuc] <WTB><E36><M50> Known good DME for 1993 325is, plus Dinan ID [uuc] Cross-Threaded Caliper Guide Bolt [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story RE: [uuc] <E36> Coolant Leak Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story RE: [uuc] E36 fault code reader Re: [uuc] <E36> Coolant Leak Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:08:04 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 fault code reader For the record, the 5 WOT procedure does not work on all E36s. I've had not problem with it in my prior E30s, but it absolutely does not work on my 8/94 prod M3. For people who can't get their CE codes by mashing the gas pedal, you need to check with your local BMW CCA chapter for the shops that will pull your codes for free with a reader. Some chapters, like ours, carry code readers in the chapter's toolbox. alex f "Wendall Siemens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Neil, > > You can get the fault codes via the gas peddle and check engine > light on the OBD1s. > Check out this link > <http://www.unofficialbmw.com/repair_faqs/motronic.html> > > Wendall > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil N. > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:12 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Racers > > Subject: [uuc] E36 fault code reader > > > > > > Is there anyone in the southern NH/northern Mass. area > > that might have a fault code reader I could use? I'm > > not sure if they're all the same, but it's for an OBDI > > E36. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:25:54 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> Coolant Leak "Dave Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The car is a 99 E36 328is with 67K miles. The last two mornings I found > a small puddle of antifreeze (blue BMW fluid) under the right front of > the car, about under the right side of the radiator. Dave, Is you right side the passenger or driver's side? As you can guess, the right-left orientation changes depending which way you are looking at the car. > The overflow tank is 2-3" low. Do I likely have a cracked radiator neck, > perhaps just a loose hose, or a leak somewhere else? Thanks in advance! One of the above. If your engine bay is dirty, clean it and watch for blueish traces of OE BMW coolant. If you are brave, unbolt the upper radiator hose and give the plastic neck a good wiggle. If it comes off you are still better off than discovering this out in the middle of the road. Last, but not least, look under the thermostat housing. If it's still plastic, it could have deformed with age/heat and started leaking. If you haven't replace the t-stat lately, it's gasket have likely shriveled up and are bleeding off the coolant. Or it could be something else ;-). alex f ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:27:21 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <WTB><E36><M50> Known good DME for 1993 325is, plus Dinan ID Bimmerphiles, Help! My DME has been subject to intrusion of moisture and minor corrosion. Car is acting up... big time. Currently proceeding with cleaning and re-test of my DME in my car. Want another as back-up, replacement, and/or for testing. New are (ouch!) pricey. (Sorry for the cross-post.) TIA. Jay Herrick P.S. any help identifying my specific P/N (dummy didn't get it) would be appreciated. (vehicle ID -EF42277) P.P.S. Anyone know what my chip has in it? "(C) 1993 Dinan Engineering, D900-2551" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 14:30:11 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Cross-Threaded Caliper Guide Bolt May have cross-threaded front left caliper guide bolts on my M Coupe. Will replace the bolts, but may have to tap the spindle to clean up threads. Does NE1 know the thread pitch and diameter? TIA. Neil Simon Wash, DC 99 M Coupe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:39:06 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story <stepping up on soapbox> Clearly a case of a driver with insufficient skill driving a car with very high performance capabilities, not exercising discretion in a situation that called for it. All the more reason to get these kids into the BMW CCA driving program at an early age, so that they learn that there is a safe place to drive in this manner and it is not on twisty public roads that need to have the gravel swept off. <off soapbox now> Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA Once put my '77 630CSi backwards through a barbed wire fence due to gravel - - speed was not all that high - but I should have known better >Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:48:54 -0700 (PDT) >From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [uuc] Sad BMW-related Story > >Gruppe, > >This link was posted to an E28 forum I lurk on. I'm >posting it here in case someone missed it: > >http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=137540 > >Someone then asked for proof to show that this is not >a hoax. From the Orange County Register: > > >******* CHP identifies car-crash victim ********** <snip> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:32:25 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] <E36> Coolant Leak > Dave, > Is you right side the passenger or driver's side? > As you can guess, the right-left orientation changes depending which > way you are looking at the car. My understanding is that right-left orientation is always when one is seated in the car, thus removing the obvious confusion that can result between LHD and RHD vehicles. Jim Bassett ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:36:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story Scott, I agree with you 100%. What I was referring to as sad was the part about how the 19-year-old gentleman died in the car. This strikes home for me since a friend of mine had a 17-year-old brother that died of the exact same cause. He was on a windy back road to his house late at night, lost control of his truck, and was not found until the a passerby came upon the smoldering, flipped heap several hours later. I agree that they were going too fast, that street racing is stupid, yada x3, but the fact that someone died in this situation is especially sad. Brad Couvillon - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > <stepping up on soapbox> > Clearly a case of a driver with insufficient skill > driving a car with very > high performance capabilities, not exercising > discretion in a situation > that called for it. All the more reason to get > these kids into the BMW CCA > driving program at an early age, so that they learn > that there is a safe > place to drive in this manner and it is not on > twisty public roads that > need to have the gravel swept off. > <off soapbox now> > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > Once put my '77 630CSi backwards through a barbed > wire fence due to gravel > - speed was not all that high - but I should have > known better __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:39:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story By the way, I put my E28 into a telephone pole after swerving for a dog, putting two tires into wet grass, and skidding for 40+ yards. I was going below the limit. I also should've known better. . . than to drive a car with TRXes in rain and to swerve for a dog when a new Euro valence -- the only damage I would've incurred if I had hit the dog -- is only $300. Brad Couvillon '85 Euro 535i <-- in hibernation thanks to TRXes '87 528e <-- lessee if I can keep THIS one on the road! www.fatdaddybmw.com - --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > Once put my '77 630CSi backwards through a barbed > wire fence due to gravel > - speed was not all that high - but I should have > known better __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 14:47:46 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 fault code reader > -----Original Message----- > For the record, the 5 WOT procedure does not work on all > E36s. I've had not problem with it in my prior E30s, but it > absolutely does not > work on my 8/94 prod M3. It works just fine on my 7/95 Production M3 FWIW. Regards Jamie Howton 2002 330i 1995 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:04:16 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] <E36> Coolant Leak Coolant also leaves a white film when it dries around the engine compartment. Suspect areas are - - Thermostat housing - - Radiator filler neck - - Water pump Also, just scan generally for coolant stains. I actually had a return line that slipped loose and got nicked by the fan. If you've got a puddle, you probably have something noticable. Realize that it can be something transient that only happens when the car is warming up, Parts swell and change shape in the warmup process, leaving everything nice and dry when running. It may only be during the evening cooldown that the leav manifests itself. Marc Plante E36 325i, 214k Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:16:37 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 12:39 PM, Brad Couvillon wrote: > I also should've known better. . . than to drive a car > with TRXes in rain and to swerve for a dog when a new > Euro valence -- the only damage I would've incurred if > I had hit the dog -- is only $300. I'm guessing the dog would have a different opinion on this. - - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:23:47 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story Agreed. Sorry if my rant did not properly express that. Scott Brad Couvillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] o.com> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story 10/09/2003 12:36 PM >Scott, > >I agree with you 100%. What I was referring to as sad >was the part about how the 19-year-old gentleman died >in the car. > <snip> >Brad Couvillon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:26:39 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story I read about this on the other forums that those guys were members of. 1. Red Mist can kill anyone, regardless of Talent? or better yet, red mist will cause you to drive past your talent. The car in question, was trying to catch another E46 M3 that most likely "WAS NOT" racing him. So this is not a case of street racing, per say. Just 1 car trying to keep up with the other car, which they dont even know if the lead car was aware of the car behind it pushing so hard to catch him. Case of my 6/10ths is your 11/10ths. A truly horrible accident, with the passenger who died, being burned death while aware of what was happening to him. Both driver and front passenger exited the car, leaving the rear passenger in the car to meet his maker. Truly horrible. The driver suffered burns and was on fire upon exiting the car. The passenger had minor wounds. Eye witnesses tried running up to help the SCREAMING passenger in the back, but were stopped 20ft away by the flames and the sudden stop of his screams. This is just truly horrible, a waste of a life and what a horrible way to go. Just because some guy felt he needed to catch or pass another car. Don't write it off to street racing, it was a case of over driving conditions, talent, cars ability, with too many passengers. Just keep this accident in the back of your mind the next time that other car is ahead of you, or your driving at 10/10ths on a public road etc. I know in my life, I have done many many many stupid things in a car due to pure young stupidity. How I survived or kill someone, I will never know. Taking to the track and racing really helped me get it out of my system and become aware of how quickly things can get out of hand. Even having the madskillz of Schumacher cant make up for unforeseen dangers on a public road. . Too many fast cars out there and I doubt the collective ability of the typical driver has increased the same rate as the performance of the modern sports car. Just think about it and try to get others to think about it when you can. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Couvillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: Sad BMW-related Story > Scott, > > I agree with you 100%. What I was referring to as sad > was the part about how the 19-year-old gentleman died > in the car. > > This strikes home for me since a friend of mine had a > 17-year-old brother that died of the exact same cause. > He was on a windy back road to his house late at > night, lost control of his truck, and was not found > until the a passerby came upon the smoldering, flipped > heap several hours later. > > I agree that they were going too fast, that street > racing is stupid, yada x3, but the fact that someone > died in this situation is especially sad. > > Brad Couvillon > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > <stepping up on soapbox> > > Clearly a case of a driver with insufficient skill > > driving a car with very > > high performance capabilities, not exercising > > discretion in a situation > > that called for it. All the more reason to get > > these kids into the BMW CCA > > driving program at an early age, so that they learn > > that there is a safe > > place to drive in this manner and it is not on > > twisty public roads that > > need to have the gravel swept off. > > <off soapbox now> > > > > Scott Miller > > GGC BMW CCA > > Once put my '77 630CSi backwards through a barbed > > wire fence due to gravel > > - speed was not all that high - but I should have > > known better > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! 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