[uucdigest]         Tuesday, October 14 2003         Volume 03 : Number 6812



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       Re: [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500
       [uuc] E36 window problem
       Re: [uuc] E36 window problem
       [uuc] <E36> Any gotcha's with 328i convertibles
       [uuc] e30 suspension
       Re: [uuc] e30 suspension
       RE: [uuc] e30 suspension
       Re: [uuc] re: New 530i
       RE: [uuc] RE: Sad BMW-related Story (My Take)

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:55:42 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500

That is not fair, the auction has over 9 days left to run. It didn't SELL
for $3900, so why post that price?  FYI it is up over $12k now.

Dennis
M5 silver/black
330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale!

At 11:08 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Chris,
>
>Someone has a car just like yours on EBay at $3900 right now?
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2437459510
>There are 11 more of them for a less paltry sum. Why are all of these 
>850's suddenly selling for less?
>
>Jacob
>
>>Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:51:47 -0700
>>From: "Chris Marino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: [uuc] 85OCI BLACK/BLACK FOR SALE (CALIFORNIA)
>>
>>Group,
>>
>>If anyone is interested, my 93 850ci is for sale.  It is black on black,
>>automatic, fully loaded, 18" M Parallel wheels, fully loaded...I've
>>created a website for the car and there are about 63 pictures on it.  It
>>can be seen here:  http://www.inlacal.com/850ci
>>
>>The price?  A paltry $23,500.  'Paltry' in comparison to the $97,000 the
>>car sold for:)
>>
>>If you have any questions, please let me know.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:57:32 -0400
From: "DUNLAP, LARRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] E36 window problem

1993 318is, drivers window makes a clunk, tilts slightly and won't go back up...  take 
the door panel off, and have a peek.  At the bottom edge of the window there are 2 
white plastic cups that the ball on the the window regulator snaps into...  window 
keeps popping out of those...  but I can't see as to why...   are those white
pieces replaceable, or do I need the whole regulator, or something else?  Thanks...

- -Larry

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:15:32 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] E36 window problem

This is a very common problem on early E36's. There are fix sites all over the place, 
here is one. http://www.understeer.com/
Yes, the parts are replaceable.

Rick 
'95 M3

> 
> From: "DUNLAP, LARRY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/14 Tue AM 10:57:32 EDT
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [uuc] E36 window problem
> 
> 
> 
> 1993 318is, drivers window makes a clunk, tilts slightly and won't go back up...  
> take the door panel off, and have a peek.  At the bottom edge of the window there 
> are 2 white plastic cups that the ball on the the window regulator snaps into...  
> window keeps popping out of those...  but I can't see as to why...   are those white
> pieces replaceable, or do I need the whole regulator, or something else?  Thanks...
> 
> -Larry
> 

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:32:41 -0500
From: "Weimer, Matt J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] <E36> Any gotcha's with 328i convertibles

May be going to look at a 1996 328iC this evening and was wondering if
there are any particular issues to look for with the soft top model vs.
the regular cars.  The radiator, t-stat housing/gasket are a given any
other mechanical items with the 2.8?  All tips appreciated. 

Matt Weimer
Hoosier Chapter
'86 325i
'89 M3

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:05:25 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] e30 suspension

My dampers have gone soft on my eta and its time for a change of pace....can anyone 
throw a reccomend my way for a place to get a good deal on bilstein HD's with some 
associated springs.....also, any other while you're in there's?

Now for the ugly stuff....

I had received some spot-on help from you all with the driveline rumbling in my eta.   
Since then, I have replaced the guibo, the center support bearing and the transmission 
mounts.  I was careful to mark the driveshaft so as to connect them the same way they 
came apart and the car is still exhibiting the same rumbling between 2-3k RPM's in 
second gear and a more constant wobbling at 75-80 mph.  

In my verve to do all I could while it was apart, I was, however, thwarted by the 
collar nut on the tranny output flange.  This failure the remove the nut (I almost 
rounded it off like a jerk and got nervous and backed off it) had two consequences:  I 
was not able to change the tranny and shift linkage seals.  I was NOT able to remove 
the harmonic balancer.  

Could the harmonic balancer be causing the wobbling?  As much as it pains me to undo 
everything, I must fix this wobbling.   Is it possible to bend a driveshaft by not 
fixing the wobble immediately.  It wasn't wobbling for that long, but though replacing 
these would have remedied.  Anything I missed replacing?  Thanks!

Dave

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: willie yeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] e30 suspension

- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> My dampers have gone soft on my eta and its time for
> a change of pace....can anyone throw a reccomend my
> way for a place to get a good deal on bilstein HD's
> with some associated springs.....also, any other
> while you're in there's?
> 
> Now for the ugly stuff....
> 
> I had received some spot-on help from you all with
> the driveline rumbling in my eta.   Since then, I
> have replaced the guibo, the center support bearing
> and the transmission mounts.  I was careful to mark
> the driveshaft so as to connect them the same way
> they came apart and the car is still exhibiting the
> same rumbling between 2-3k RPM's in second gear and
> a more constant wobbling at 75-80 mph.  
> 
> In my verve to do all I could while it was apart, I
> was, however, thwarted by the collar nut on the
> tranny output flange.  This failure the remove the
> nut (I almost rounded it off like a jerk and got
> nervous and backed off it) had two consequences:  I
> was not able to change the tranny and shift linkage
> seals.  I was NOT able to remove the harmonic
> balancer.  
> 
> Could the harmonic balancer be causing the wobbling?
>  As much as it pains me to undo everything, I must
> fix this wobbling.   Is it possible to bend a
> driveshaft by not fixing the wobble immediately.  It
> wasn't wobbling for that long, but though replacing
> these would have remedied.  Anything I missed
> replacing?  Thanks!
> 
> Dave
> 

Dave.
I just replaced my rear shocks using Bilstein HD. They
are fairly close to stock. I got my from
http://www.bimmerparts.com/

You should check out http://www.eap4parts.com/ too.
They seem to have some good prices on certain parts.

Will

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:33:33 -0400
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] e30 suspension

> 
> My dampers have gone soft on my eta and its time for a change 
> of pace....can anyone throw a reccomend my way for a place to 
> get a good deal on bilstein HD's with some associated 
> springs.....also, any other while you're in there's?

In the rear, replace the rear shock mounts.  Use the E46M3 mounts (about
$12ea.).

In the front, consider the control arms & sway bar end links.  If you want
some better handling, replace the strut tower bearings with the offset ones
and use the E30M3 offset control arm bushings.

> 
> Now for the ugly stuff....
> 
> I had received some spot-on help from you all with the 
> driveline rumbling in my eta.   Since then, I have replaced 
> the guibo, the center support bearing and the transmission 
> mounts.  I was careful to mark the driveshaft so as to 
> connect them the same way they came apart and the car is 
> still exhibiting the same rumbling between 2-3k RPM's in 
> second gear and a more constant wobbling at 75-80 mph.  

Hmmm, these items fixed a similar noise in my M3.  Also check the diff to
rear subframe, diff mount, and subframe mounts.  I'm assuming the center
support was properly pre-loaded?

> 
> In my verve to do all I could while it was apart, I was, 
> however, thwarted by the collar nut on the tranny output 
> flange.  This failure the remove the nut (I almost rounded it 
> off like a jerk and got nervous and backed off it) had two 
> consequences:  I was not able to change the tranny and shift 
> linkage seals.  I was NOT able to remove the harmonic balancer.  

Good call, better not to damage stuff that works.  :)

> 
> Could the harmonic balancer be causing the wobbling?  As much 
> as it pains me to undo everything, I must fix this wobbling.  
>  Is it possible to bend a driveshaft by not fixing the wobble 
> immediately.  It wasn't wobbling for that long, but though 
> replacing these would have remedied.  Anything I missed 
> replacing?  Thanks!

I would think you'd need quite a bit of force to bend the ds.

> 
> Dave

Lee 

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:01:14 -0700
From: "JSN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] re: New 530i

Isn't that what Ranger Rovers HSE's are for?

Since when did four set's of golf clubs become a requirement for the
Ultimate Driving Machine?  Or - have I misunderstood that BMW means by
"Driving"?  ;)

Jeff
90 535i, no idea how many golf clubs fit in the trunk


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:32 AM
Subject: RE: [uuc] re: New 530i


> WOW! 4 sets of clubs? My E39 came with a similar diagram, but it was how
to
> fit 3 sets of clubs in the trunk. That makes the BangleButt all
worthwhile.
>
> Bill Matthews
> Hockessin DE
> 00 M Geeze
> some Volvos
> other cars
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Messer
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:08 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [uuc] re: New 530i
> >
> >
> > >Trunk looked better for cargo space including drastically more golf
> > club storage.
> >
> > My favorite is the top and side views on how best to place 4 sets of
> > clubs.  Is it that hard to figure out??
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:04:37 -0400
From: "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Sad BMW-related Story (My Take)

> Well Kevin, I think it "depends"...when I was 16 I had a vary 
> fast car ('67
> Chevelle SS 396 with Corvette engine, headers, slicks, 
> etc.).....well in
> excess of 400hp, and I "although tempted at times" used my 
> head and did NOT
> drive like a complete idiot on public streets.  I took care 
> of the car, and
> it took care of me.

And you were the ONLY adolescent male to ever do so..... ;)  Maybe the ONLY
adult male as well.

> 
> I think it's like gun control......guns don't kill 
> people...people kill

Except that cars are designed for a purpose other than causing injury.
FWIW, I have no opinion about gun control & don't care.

> people.  It's NOT the fault of the BMW M3 or "any" fast 
> car....talk like
> what you said is very worrisome to me (please don't take it 
> personally, I am
> speaking generally...I understand what you were saying "in 
> context"), but
> the "do gooders" on this earth will have us all driving 
> around in electric
> cars going 25 mph if they had their way.

This is actually an interesting point.  If the gov't was really concerned
that speeding cost lives & that the maximum speed should be 70mph, then
shouldn't all cars have a 70mph governor?  With broadcast signals, you could
probably even broadcast an open signal to a receiver in any car telling the
computer to limit the top speed to any value.

But then, you might as well take the bus......and imagine the extraordinary
loss of revenue nationwide....

> 
> So let's blame the dumb kids, not the cars for such acts of 
> stupidity.  That
> kid was old enough to drive, so he should have had enough 
> common sense to
> "drive responsibly".  And the parents don't get off scott-free
> either....stupid parents raise stupid kids.

Welcome to a blameless society.  Obviously this couldn't have happened
because ***I*** was stupid, it must be because the car was too fast, the
road banked the wrong way, I had to pee out that huge shake & that guy in
front of me I was trying to keep up with was a much faster or better driver.

There are going to be many more stupid people out there than otherwise, but
if they can afford a car like that, who are we to stop them.  If the kid in
question could afford that car & all it's related expenses, then more power
to him.  If he earned it, then he deserves the car.  You can't really
control what he does with it, although I'd think it's safe to say he's not
going to be driving anything (or at least anything that nice) for a long
while.

If the parents bought the car, then perhaps they should've known better, but
how many normal people really know what those things are capable of.  I
think that most non-car enthusiasts don't really realize how quickly those
things pile on mph & that avoiding an accident isn't nearly as easy as
everyone thinks.  One of my buddy's dad just got a 3.0 Z4.  He opened up the
gas in that thing & scared the hell out of himself.  He told me he had no
idea a car would do that & thank goodness for the traction control.  Now
pile on 100 more hp!

In the end, the driver let testosterone get the better of him, unfortunately
with very tragic results.  I'm 29 & it still gets the better of me
sometimes, well maybe more than sometimes.....Ok, ok, alot.  I don't think
anyone here can profess to never have been a hot-head; especially had they
had the chance to drive a sports car like that at 20.  And the fact of the
matter is that driver training the US generally sucks.

> 
> John Weese
> BMW CCA #76646
Lee

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