[uucdigest]        Wednesday, October 15 2003        Volume 03 : Number 6814



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In this BMW UUC Digest:

       [uuc] RE: RE: Sad BMW-related Story (My Take)
       RE: [uuc] RE: Sad BMW-related Story (My Take)
       [uuc] brake lights don't work E36
       RE: [uuc] brake lights don't work E36
       RE: [uuc] E36 Headlight Comparison
       [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500
       [uuc] Article on Seinfeld and Porsches
       Re: [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] RE: RE: Sad BMW-related Story (My Take)

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Alex Cagann wrote:

> mistake. I had never driven anything with that performance
> yet...and I was not up to controlling the car after I was showing
> off the 0-60 rush. The car hit 90mph

 In college, a friend of mine had a Suzuki liter bike.  He would not
let ANYONE take it for a spin, saying that it was too fast, too
dangerous, etc.  I never hassled him, but always privately thought him
a little jerkish for it.
 I now realize he was wise beyond his years.  It's true, you gotta
work up to things like that, or you're taking chances.

- --
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:41:04 -0400
From: "KMS - Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] RE: Sad BMW-related Story (My Take)

I believe the reason Rob wants pictures is that he's done that exact same
thing.....

No, wait, that might have been Mike Wendell.....

Brett Anderson
KMS


> Needless to say my dad was unhappy and did not document the accident for
> further viewing:-) It happened back in 1996. The car was less than a year
> old and had 5k miles. It was a bad evening...believe you me.
>
> Alex Cagann
> http://www.autoconsortium.com
>
>
> > I want pictures!
> >
> > - Rob
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:18:06 -0400
From: "Mike Gambini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] brake lights don't work E36

1993  325i E36 brake lights stopped working while at a BMW CCA driving
school("safety school"). Fuse is good and all 3 lights are out, so probably
not bulbs. The elec diagram in my Chiltons manual just shows the brake
lights controlled by the check control module. The check module is reporting
the error in the brake light circuit. Are there any relays in this circuit?
I haven't gotten up under the dash to check the brake light switch yet. Any
ideas?
MikeG

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:08:57 -0700
From: "Clan Hood-Douda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] brake lights don't work E36

You'll want to check the brake pedal switch. Common failure point on these
cars.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Gambini
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:18 PM
To: BMW digest
Subject: [uuc] brake lights don't work E36


1993  325i E36 brake lights stopped working while at a BMW CCA driving
school("safety school"). Fuse is good and all 3 lights are out, so probably
not bulbs. The elec diagram in my Chiltons manual just shows the brake
lights controlled by the check control module. The check module is reporting
the error in the brake light circuit. Are there any relays in this circuit?
I haven't gotten up under the dash to check the brake light switch yet. Any
ideas? MikeG

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:25:06 -0400
From: "Matt Malfa * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [uuc] E36 Headlight Comparison

Kit put together something similar: http://www.geocities.com/kitwetzler/

- - -Matt

- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Baker
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [uuc] E36 Headlight Comparison


Any people nearby the Los Angeles area who would be interested in 
getting together for a little headlight comparo? I would like to get at 
least 1 car with each of the various E36 headlights (ZKW, Bosch, InPro, 
Hella, factory US) both with halogen bulbs and HID upgrades installed. 
If anyone is interested in participating, drop me an email.
- --
Roger

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:08:30 -0500
From: The Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500

Dennis,

I never said the car sold for $3900. I was just wondering why all of the 
8-series were selling as inexpensively
as they are? I thought they were worth a lot more than that. Time to 
change your pad?

Jacob

>Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:55:42 -0500
>From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500
>
>That is not fair, the auction has over 9 days left to run. It didn't SELL
>for $3900, so why post that price?  FYI it is up over $12k now.
>
>Dennis
>M5 silver/black
>330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale!
>
>At 11:08 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>  
>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>Someone has a car just like yours on EBay at $3900 right now?
>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2437459510
>>>There are 11 more of them for a less paltry sum. Why are all of these 
>>>850's suddenly selling for less?
>>>
>>>Jacob
>>

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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Neil N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [uuc] Article on Seinfeld and Porsches

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Please see that this is forwarded to Ron Rosenbaum.
 
Mr. Rosenbaum,
 
You, sir, are a helmet - as you so kindly demonstrated in your recent second-rate 
"newspaper" article about Jerry Seinfeld and his collection of Porsches.  I take 
exception to this article on its only two premises - first, that Seinfeld is not 
funny, and second, that his ongoing garage construction is something other than 
reasonable.  For the record, I am a huge Seinfeld fan, and an avid car lover.  In 
fact, as I write this, I am enjoying one of the very reruns you mentioned.
 
Arguably, no television program in history has had so much of an impact on its society 
as Seinfeld.  That show created and/or popularized a whole new language that is still 
present today, more than 5 years after it ended (think "yada yada yada", etc.).  
Besides that part of its impact, it was simply one of the funniest shows ever.  Over 
nearly 10 seasons, the show delivered consistently original stories that were 
intertwined in ever more bizarre ways.  It always makes people laugh and it is a 
common thread among people all over the country.  I mourn for your obvious lack of a 
sense of humor.
 
Further, on the point of his new garage: Good for him.  First of all, allow me to 
remind you that the United States remains a free nation, in which people have the 
liberty to do what makes them happy providing it does not harm others.  Fact is, a NY 
housing shortage is not a reason why Jerry should not be allowed to build his garage.  
If he has the finances to buy the building and make the renovations, that's all that 
matters.  Besides, would his one garage provide housing for the "tens of thousands" of 
people desperate for it, as you claim?  I'll remind you of a person's right to the 
pursuit of their happiness.  If you don't share a love of cars - Porsches in 
particular - I feel badly for you.  However, I recognize many people do not.  Still, 
you shouldn't berate his passions because you resent his financial success and the 
manner in which he chooses to spend it.
 
>From what I know of his collection, by the way, much of it is comprised of cars that 
>actually are quite rare - much more so than the Boxster you repeatedly mention.  
>("Gunther," I believe it was?)  Why shouldn't they be protected and displayed?
 
On the literary quality of your article: If I were you, I would hold on to that job at 
the Observer with everything I had.  I'm no author, but boy, enough with the "Little 
Lost Porsches" and "Little Kittens who Lost Their Mittens" and talk of Jerry being 
obsessed with saying goodnight to his car collection.  It's a little "hacky".  (I'll 
let you can figure out which episode that comes from, but here's a hint - Kenny Banya 
and the rainbow suspenders.)
 
Lastly, a word of advice.  Do your homework next time you write an article like this.  
If Seinfeld were sitting in a kitchenette reviewing his collection of Porsches, he 
would not be eating cookies and milk.  He would be eating cereal.  With just the right 
amount of milk.
 
Kind regards,
 
Neil


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<DIV>Please see that this is forwarded to Ron Rosenbaum.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Mr. Rosenbaum,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You, sir, are a helmet - as you so kindly demonstrated in your recent second-rate 
"newspaper" article about Jerry Seinfeld and his collection of Porsches.&nbsp; I take 
exception to this article on its only two premises - first, that Seinfeld is not 
funny, and second, that his ongoing garage construction is something other than 
reasonable.&nbsp; For the record, I am a huge Seinfeld fan, and an avid car 
lover.&nbsp; In fact, as I write this, I am enjoying one of the very reruns you 
mentioned.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Arguably, no television program in history has had so much of an impact on its 
society as Seinfeld.&nbsp; That show created and/or popularized&nbsp;a whole new 
language that is still present today, more than 5 years after it ended (think "yada 
yada yada", etc.).&nbsp; Besides that part of its impact, it was simply one of the 
funniest shows ever.&nbsp; Over nearly 10 seasons, the show delivered consistently 
original stories that were intertwined in ever more bizarre ways.&nbsp; It always 
makes people laugh and it is a common thread among people all over the country.&nbsp; 
I mourn for your obvious lack of a sense of humor.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Further, on the point of his new garage: Good for him.&nbsp; First of all, allow 
me to remind you that the United States remains a free nation, in which people have 
the liberty to do what makes them happy providing it does not harm others.&nbsp; Fact 
is, a NY housing shortage is not a reason why Jerry should not be allowed to build his 
garage.&nbsp; If he has the finances to buy the building and make the renovations, 
that's all that matters.&nbsp; Besides, would his one garage provide housing for the 
"tens of thousands" of people desperate for it, as you claim?&nbsp; I'll remind you of 
a person's right to the pursuit of their happiness.&nbsp; If you don't share a love of 
cars - Porsches in particular - I feel badly for you.&nbsp; However, I recognize many 
people do not.&nbsp; Still, you shouldn't berate his passions because you resent his 
financial success and the manner in which he chooses to spend it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>From what I know of his collection, by the way, much of it is comprised of cars 
that actually are quite rare - much more so than the&nbsp;Boxster you repeatedly 
mention.&nbsp; ("Gunther," I believe it was?)&nbsp; Why shouldn't they be protected 
and displayed?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>On the literary quality of your article: If I were you, I would hold on to that 
job at the Observer with everything I had.&nbsp; I'm no author, but boy, enough with 
the "Little Lost Porsches" and "Little Kittens who Lost Their Mittens" and talk of 
Jerry being obsessed with saying goodnight to his car collection.&nbsp; It's a little 
"hacky".&nbsp; (I'll let you can figure out which episode that comes from, but here's 
a hint - Kenny Banya and the rainbow suspenders.)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lastly, a word of advice.&nbsp; Do your homework next time you write an article 
like this.&nbsp; If Seinfeld were sitting in a kitchenette reviewing his collection of 
Porsches, he would not be eating cookies and milk.&nbsp; He would be eating 
cereal.&nbsp; With just the right amount of milk.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Kind regards,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Neil</DIV><p><hr SIZE=1>
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:13:41 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500

But why even mention that car?  If you wanted to provide links to CLOSED
auctions for SOLD cars then the price would be relevant.

If I posted a link to an eBay  auction for an M5 that was currently at $1,
would that indicate the cars are now worthless?  Nope, just that no one has
bid on the car yet.

The guy lists his car for $23,500 and you post a link to a competing sale
and state a car is $3,900 - then ask why is his car not holding value. The
latter might be a valid question but the price and the link are just BOGUS.

Maybe it is time to undo your cranial-rectal interface :-) ?

Dennis
M5 silver/black
330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale!

At 12:08 AM 10/15/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Dennis,
>
>I never said the car sold for $3900. I was just wondering why all of the 
>8-series were selling as inexpensively
>as they are? I thought they were worth a lot more than that. Time to 
>change your pad?
>
>Jacob
>
>>Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:55:42 -0500
>>From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: A paltry $23,500
>>
>>That is not fair, the auction has over 9 days left to run. It didn't SELL
>>for $3900, so why post that price?  FYI it is up over $12k now.
>>
>>Dennis
>>M5 silver/black
>>330i silver/black/manual/sp/pp/xenon/cd - now for sale!
>>
>>At 11:08 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Chris,
>>>>
>>>>Someone has a car just like yours on EBay at $3900 right now?
>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2437459510
>>>>There are 11 more of them for a less paltry sum. Why are all of these 
>>>>850's suddenly selling for less?
>>>>
>>>>Jacob
>

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