On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 08:25 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:36 AM, sophie <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is what language communities are supposed to do : give those who don't > > speak English a chance to be part of the project. We can't rely only on > > English speaking people to grow the community and represent it every where > > in the world. This is why settling each of our actions on an i18n point of > > view first is very important. > > That conjure to me the following quote (from a brazillian TDF member > on the aooo-dev ML) > > "4 - Suddenly, TDF was requesting that every person who wanted to be called > a "contributor" should fill a agreement request in order to be > "recognized". So we became to be concerned about that huge amount of people > who contributed and didn't want to fill a formal agreement to a foreign > organization that don't speak their language and has a lot of "channels", > many of them obscured. > 5 - In addition, people who we were fighting bacame key persons in TDF. One > of them became a "brazilian" member of the BoD, with 70 votes, when > brazilian accepted members in Brazil were less than 15 and most of them > didn't vote for him." > > Which, to me, indicate that the language barrier is being use and > abuse to mislead (*), and the underlying 'nationalism' is disturbing > to me. the notion the TDF should be the UN with 'national > representative' is pretty scary (**) :-( > Hi Norbert
I think you make too much of the statement from one person. Some people will leave in a huff, no matter what policies are in place. I also think that what you refer to as a problem with Nationalism is not, rather it is a problem with external organizations, and the relationship between them and TDF. No place is this more true, currently then in Brazil, but it is not exclusive to Brazil. It is true that these secondary (from the TDF perspective) organizations are predominantly defined, partly, by location and therefore Nation. //drew > > (*) TDF does not _require_ anything to 'contribute'. for code > contribution we ask for the proper licensing... but that is true of > nay project. > member need to be contributors but contributors are not required to be > member. For instance last time I checked Tor is not a member, yet he > is undeniably a contributor. > Sure, to become a member, one is asked to agree to the tenet of the > organization one want to become a member of... nothing shocking about > that... > > (**) the notion of 'brazillian' member is shocking to me, just like > the notion of 'French' member or 'Finnish' member... a member is a > member, his national origin is irrelevant. > And voting for a BoD member based on such irrelevant criteria is > disturbing to me. >
