Does someone who's an expert in the creative commons licenses want to weigh in 
on whether any of their licenses would serve this purpose (making OpenID 
related content available to the community on an irrevocable basis for the 
purposes of promoting OpenID while prohibiting uses that do not do so)?

                                                                Thanks,
                                                                -- Mike

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Recordon
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy

Could the licensing in #6 also allow Creative Commons licensed content 
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/) as another option.  Should 
serve the same purpose and will be perceived as "less evil".  I'm just worried 
about the wording of the clause seeming like it is too controlling or 
overbearing.

--David

On May 7, 2008, at 7:10 AM, Mike Jones wrote:


Thanks for the attention to detail, Drummond.  How about this wording the 
clauses in question?

2 - Registration
Organizations must apply to the OIDF for recognition as a Local Chapter by 
sending an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. In this email, 
Chapters must signify their agreement to the terms of this policy and supply: 
a) contact information for the organizers, b) the URL that the OIDF should use 
when listing the chapter, c) a description of the region or community that the 
organization serves, and d) the name of the chapter.

6 - Intellectual Property
Chapters must agree that any intellectual property or trademarks developed or 
held by the Chapter must be freely available for use to the OpenID Community, 
in particular, they must agree that any intellectual property or trademarks 
developed or held by the local chapter must either be owned by OIDF, jointly 
owned by the OIDF, or licensed to the OIDF under terms that allow OIDF to use 
them in whatever way it sees fit, including sublicensing to others under terms 
of its choosing.  The one exception to this policy is that a Chapter may have a 
Chapter logo or mark that is only available to members of that Chapter, 
provided that that logo or mark does not infringe the OpenID trademark.
Finally, 7 and 13 are not in conflict if the relationship that a local chapter 
has with another organization (13) is with another local chapter also committed 
to the Purpose (7).  If you see it differently Drummond, specifically what 
conflict do you see in this case?

                                                Thanks all,
                                                -- Mike

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Drummond Reed
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:35 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy

Mike,

This is looking good. See four items of (relatively minor) feedback inline. 
Once these are dealt with I'd move to adopt this at Thursday's meeting.

=Drummond

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Mike Jones
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:38 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy

The proposed revised local chapters policy is below.  You can compare it to the 
existing local chapters policy in force 
athttp://openid.net/foundation/chapters/.  This has been developed with a lot 
of input from Snorri and Nat (thanks guys!) and should enable us to have both 
OpenID Europe and OpenID Japan sign on as local chapters.  Please consider this 
before the board meeting on Thursday, as I plan to have us vote on it then.

                                                                Thanks all,
                                                                -- Mike

OIDF Local Chapters Policy

1 - Independent Organizations
Local Chapters ("Chapters") are independent of the OpenID Foundation ("OIDF") 
itself and thus can either be informal organizations or formal legal entities, 
which is a decision left to the Chapter organizers.

2 - Registration
Chapters must register with OIDF by sending an email to 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. In this email, Chapters will signify 
their agreement to the terms of this policy, and will supply all contact 
information to be used for this Chapter, so that the Chapters committee can 
maintain the references on the OIDF web site ("openid.net").

This still is not as clear as asking the Chapter to provide: a) contact info at 
the time of application, and b) the URL that the OIDF should use to reference 
ongoing contact information for the chapter.

3 - Members
Chapters will clearly inform their members and prospective members that 
membership in the Local Chapter does not grant them membership in the OIDF and 
will encourage their members to also join OIDF.

4 - Leadership Team
Chapters must be headed by a designated leadership team, composed of at least 
three people.

5 - Internet site
Chapters should have their own web site, listing events and news. This 
Chapter-sponsored web site is the responsibility of the chapter organizers, not 
of the OIDF staff or volunteers.

6 - Intellectual Property
Chapters must agree that any intellectual property or trademarks developed or 
held by the Chapter must be freely available for use to the OpenID Community, 
in particular, they must agree that any intellectual property or trademarks 
developed or held by the local chapter must either be owned by OIDF, jointly 
owned by the OIDF, or licensed to the OIDF under terms that allow OIDF to use 
them in whatever way it sees fit, including sublicensing to others under terms 
of its choosing.
This still does not include the exception that a Chapter should be able to have 
a Chapter logo or mark that is only available to members of that Chapter.
7 - Purpose
Chapters must agree that all Chapter activities are focused on fostering the 
widespread adoption and use of OpenID and in support of the OIDF's mission 
statement.

The way this is worded ("all Chapter activities") is in conflict with #13 below.

8 - Financing
Chapters must operate independently, with no expectation of receiving funds 
from OIDF. However, they may apply to the OIDF board for funding of specific 
activities or events, and these requests will be considered on their merits.

9 - Activities Report
Chapters must exhibit "liveness". At least every year the Chapter's leaders 
must report to the Local Chapters Committee on their chapter activities. 
Meetings are good.  Evidence of an active mailing list is sufficient.

10 - Listing of Chapters
OIDF will list the Chapters on openid.net in a geographically organized list, 
providing contact information and link sites to the Chapter.

11 - Nondiscriminatory Acceptance
All proposed Chapters agreeing to abide by the Local Chapters Policy will be 
accepted as Local Chapters by the OIDF.

12 - Territories
OIDF will recognize any proposed eligible Local Chapters, regardless of the 
geographic scope of the chapter, including chapters with overlapping 
territories and missions.  Chapters organized at the nation state level may 
apply to the OIDF to be recognized as the OIDF-designated national chapter.  
OIDF will recognize at most one chapter as the designated national chapter in a 
nation-state at any time.

13 - Non-Exclusive Relationships
Chapters are free to maintain relationships and partnerships with other 
organizations and to maintain their own memberships, provided that the purpose 
and conduct of those relationships is consistent with this Local Chapters 
Policy.

I agree with this but to keep it we need to adjust the language on #7 above.

14 - Local Chapters Committee
OIDF may authorize a Local Chapters Committee. This committee must be composed 
of at least one Chapter leader and at least one OIDF board member.

15 - Chapter Removal
If a Chapter has violated the Chapters Policy (e.g.: if a Chapter does not 
report its activities or pursues activities in conflict with its mission to 
promote OpenID) and the violation has not been corrected and completely 
resolved within 3 months after written notice by OIDF, OIDF can remove that 
Chapter from its listings. The OIDF Board may delegate the authority to de-list 
a chapter with cause to the Local Chapters Committees.  A Chapter may appeal 
the committee's decision to the board.  A Chapter may also request to be 
de-listed.

16 - Changes to the Local Chapters Policy
If the OIDF alters the Local Chapters Policy it will notify Local Chapter 
leaders of the change. Following notification, the Local Chapter leaders will 
have 90 days to reply to the Local Chapters Committee either accepting the 
revised policy or stating why they are unwilling to operate under the revised 
policy. Should they not accept the revised policy, the OIDF will record the 
policy version under which the Chapter was admitted and allow that chapter to 
continue operating under that policy, except in cases where the board 
determines that substantial legal risk or financial harm would be incurred by 
the OIDF or that damage to OpenID would result.  Failure to formally opt out of 
the revised policy within 90 days of the change will be deemed acceptance of 
the new policy.


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