Many of the activities you suggest are valuable, such as securing trademarks in 
the local jurisdiction, performing translations, and hosting lists in local 
languages.  I believe these issues deserve more discussion and probably should 
be part of a national chapters policy, which is complementary to the local 
chapters policy.

I believe we're at a good place with the local chapters policy and still in 
need of substantial discussion of any national chapters policy (which should 
occur in the working group, not on the full board alias).

For purposes of making progress tomorrow, I would still propose that we adopt 
the proposed changes to the local chapters policy and then consider a national 
policies policy separately.  Would you support that course of action and would 
it let OpenID Japan accept the local chapters policy?  I'd think that it would 
because you'd already (I believe) agreed to the text with no specifics about 
the national chapters, policy -- just a statement that the OIDF may designate 
chapters to be national chapters.

                                                Thanks again Nat,
                                                -- Mike

________________________________
From: Nat Sakimura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:15 PM
To: Mike Jones
Cc: Snorri; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy

Hi Mike,

Below is from my original Chapter Policy Manuscript, which seems to be much too 
robust for acceptance.
However, it does contain such criterias: Specifically, National Chapters must 
fulfil III-2, III-3:

       III-2.       Intellectual Property

                The National Chapters are required to secure the fair use of 
trademarks and other intellectual property
                 in the jurisdiction for the OpenID Community with a 
commercially reasonable effort.
III-3.       Translation
                        i.       The National Chapters are required to provide 
the translation of then current OpenID Specifications and the IPR documents in 
the local language.
                      ii.       The National Chapters are required to assist 
the communication of the Local Chapter Members with the Working Groups by 
setting up a local language mailing list parallel to the OIDF Working Group 
mailing lists.

III-2 especially, requires a single entity to be doing this, since otherwise, 
it will result in a chaos. This probalby is the most important reason for 
having a single National Chapter.

Also, IMHO, a National chapter should conduct a preliminary survay of local 
patents for the possible infringement of those by OpenID specificatioin. This 
is a rather costly operation and best dealt at one entity for the economic 
reason. Probably, this should be added to III-2 as well.

Nat


Original text are as below:---
II.               Duties of a Local Chapter
1.        Intellectual Property
The chapters must agree that their activities will be for the purpose of 
supporting the adoptions and the usage of OpenID. They must agree that any 
intellectual property or trademarks developed or held by the local chapter must 
be available freely for the OpenID Community for the fair use.
2.        Activities
Each Local Chapter must engage in the following activities:
                        i.       Annual General Meeting
                      ii.       Annual Report Publishing
                    iii.       Web site which is enabled with OpenID 
Authentication.
3.       Autonomous Financing
The chapters must operate autonomously without any financial support from OIDF.
4.       Membership Management
Local Chapters must maintain the list of the Local Chapter Members.

III.           Obligations of a National Chapter
In addition to the above Local Chapters duties, National Chapters are required 
to fulfill the following obligations.
1.       Form
Although it is not required to be registered as a non-profit organization, a 
National Chapter must be a non-profit for its purpose.
2.       Intellectual Property
The National Chapters are required to secure the fair use of trademarks and 
other intellectual property in the jurisdiction for the OpenID Community with a 
commercially reasonable effort.
3.       Translation
                        i.       The National Chapters are required to provide 
the translation of then current OpenID Specifications and the IPR documents in 
the local language.
                      ii.       The National Chapters are required to assist 
the communication of the Local Chapter Members with the Working Groups by 
setting up a local language mailing list parallel to the OIDF Working Group 
mailing lists.


Mike Jones wrote:
Nat and Snorri, since you're the ones advocating OIDF having the concept of 
designated national chapters, I'm going to first ask you to take a stab at 
answering Dick's question.  I agree with him that having a designation but no 
criteria for the board to make that designation nor any definition of how the 
OIDF should treat a designated national chapter any differently than any other 
local chapter is a recipe for future problems.

Summarizing, I think the questions are:
  - What criteria will be used to decide which application is granted the 
national chapter if there is more then one applicant?
  - Does the OIDF treat designated national chapters any differently than other 
chapters, and if so, how?

                                                Thanks,
                                                -- Mike

________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Dick Hardt
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:28 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OpenID board] Revised local chapters policy

12 - Territories
OIDF will recognize any proposed eligible Local Chapters, regardless of the 
geographic scope of the chapter, including chapters with overlapping 
territories and missions.  Chapters organized at the nation state level may 
apply to the OIDF to be recognized as the OIDF-designated national chapter.  
OIDF will recognize at most one chapter as the designated national chapter in a 
nation-state at any time.


What criteria will be used to decide which application is granted the national 
chapter if there is more then one applicant?

If the national chapter leadership is lacking and another group wants to take 
over, how is that done?

These are very subjective / political criteria that I think would be best for 
the OIDF to stay out of if possible.

-- Dick





--

Nat Sakimura (=nat)

Nomura Research Institute, Ltd.

XDI.ORG Vice Chair
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