And everyone that cares about doing science instead of benchmarks will opt
out.  Credit is not part of the science being done.

jm7


                                                                           
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Which is why I have suggested the opt-out mechanism and the increased
award for those that opt-in ...


On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:12 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> I was trying to state something similar.  There are computers doing
> useful
> work for projects and increasing the burden of time spent on
> benchmarks
> will reduce the availability of those resources to the project.
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> Paul D. Buck wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Lynn W. Taylor wrote:
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>>> The benchmark affects the estimated run time, and the amount of work
>>> downloaded.  It affects credit, and credit is "fun" but it's not
>>> science.
>>
>> Then you are also guilty of not reading the proposal.  I have always
>> said that while running calibration tasks that the same compensation
>> would be paid for a calibration task as for any other task.  In fact,
>> I said that it could qualify for a bonus to encourage participation
>> in
>> the system.  In that we have resistance as you and John express
>> because you don't seem interested in any attempt to improve the
>> operation of the system as a whole.
>
> I'm not talking about awarding credit, bonus credits, better
> assignment
> of work, or anything else along those lines.
>
> When you come back with "I've always said that while running
> calibration
> tasks the same compensation...." it shows that you missed my question.
> I wasn't asking about credit.  You did the same thing in the other
> thread when I raised a separate issue about continuous downloads and
> you
> told me that I had your issue wrong.
>
> BOINC is a black box.  A project dumps work units and a science
> application into the box, and results pour out.
>
> I'm asking only about the results.  Unless I'm badly mistaken, that
> was
> John's question as well.
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> We can all get excited about how BOINC does (or doesn't) work well,
> but
> all the projects care about are results.
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