Greg London demonstrates:
> 
> John Redford first wrote:
> > But JavaScript is a great scripting language if one wants ...
> > no political baggage, no weirdly advocating user community,
> 
> John Redford then wrote:
> > Just like Perl has CPAN, JavaScript has "code you find on the Internet".
> > It's not as catchy sounding, but it works the same and
> > ***it's more egalitarian.***
> 
> > What's wrong with third-party code?  Why should JavaScript tell
> > people the only way to do things.  JavaScript is simply allowing
> > their user community to come up with solutions and use them.
> > There is a lot of lively, active development and many clever ideas.
> > ***Like Perl used to be.***
> 
> I don't know nothing about JavaScript.
> But what you just wrote sounds like political baggage
> and someone weirdly advocating for JavaScript.

Someone asked me about it.  No one asked me about Modula-3.  I am a die-hard
Modula-3 advocate.  But no one is asking.

My mild Perl-user-bashing baggage is entirely my own and has everything to
do with Perl users, not with JavaScript or with Perl as a language.

> I have found that programmers and engineers -sometimes-
> are unable to see their subjective inclinations for a
> language (or hardware system, or whatever), and think
> their preference boils down to a purely objective set
> of measures that *prove* it is a better language (or system,
> or whatever).

I have found that if you tell a group of Perl users that the sky is blue,
some of them will tell you that Perl would be better.

> Anything you say about how JavaScript is better than Perl,

I didn't say JavaScript is better than Perl.  I said JavaScript is well
designed (for its target purpose).  That purpose is not the same as Perl's.

> I would suggest you keep in mind that you're talking to
> a bunch of people who are regulars at the perl bar,
> and who aren't likely to change just because you say that
> the restaurant isn't "like it used to be".

I don't care if you use Perl and I would not try to talk you out of it.

To whatever degree the people at the "perl bar" are an insular clique of
language-isolationists, then my advocacy of learning and using a large
number of languages is probably offensive, as it implies that there is
something wrong with only learning one language and claiming that it's the
one true best ever language with diamonds, snowflakes and unicorns on top.
But I assure you, I don't care if you use Perl.

> People choose their language for objective and subjective reasons.

"People choose their language"?  You make it sound like such a singular,
irrevocable decision.  I'm just not ever looking at it that way.  On any
given project I may use 3-4 languages.  And on the next project I may use
3-4 entirely different languages.  Sometimes one of those languages is even
Perl.




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