Hi all,

I am fan of bpython. I would like first to thank all the project
contributors. bpython saved hours of work on my own projects.

Regarding participating in GSOC, I would like to see bpython there with cool
ideas. This will guarantee more efforts to push innovation ahead.

bpython developers can propose a bunch of ideas that integrate in a wider
theme of workflow. What concerns me how people use bpython. In my case I
open vim to change my code, and I use bpython to test semantics of the
language, learn the methods of the new libraries and check small scripts.
After that I write my code in vim. For debugging, usually I fail to find an
interesting solution that pushes me to use debugger instead of print
statements. As a user I am looking for integration between bpython + my
favorite text editor + debugger. The best debugging + text editing
experience I know is in matlab. When you are using matlab you are debugging
since the first line you wrote. You write the new lines of code as you are
debugging which gives the power of bpython. I think that text editing
features will push bpython towards being a powerful IDE.

Sorry if still my ideas are not clear. I am trying to catch attentions to
some unprepared and unready ideas. (some type of brainstorming)

I would like to read your suggestions and ideas, as I am thinking of
applying to GSOC if bpython is there.

Regards.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 23:00, Shashwat Anand <[email protected]>wrote:

> I can see three benefits as of now:
>
> 1. "We have ideas that are half-finished and issues that we want to fix,"
> Some part of project will be done by a student which IMO is good. bpython
> does need fixes. Improvement is always good.
>
> 2. High chances that the student will stick to bpython-contribution. there
> bpython gaining new developers. Basically that is the aim of gsoc, to
> attract students who later sticks with organzations. I think this is a big
> plus because projects smaller than bpython are in gsoc. My thoughts were why
> not this project which I use on my daily basis. gsoc is not about bigger
> idea but implementing smaller ideas. projects like zenmap and py2to3 are
> gsoc ideas.
>
> 3. Number of applicants in gsoc is high which will lead to few people
> applying in bpython thereby learning about it. This is good in a sense that
> people will dig the code-base.
>
> I personally don't see any losses here. Why not try applying this year and
> assess the result? If the results are unsatisfactory, no need applying next
> year however if the results are good then it should participate in gsoc
> program yearly.
>
> Regards,
> ~l0nwlf
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Bob Farrell <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anand, thanks for the email.
>>
>> On Feb 13, 9:05 pm, l0nwlf <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > bpython is a fantastic project but the issue with it is that it had
>> > not yet gained desired publicity.
>>
>> Well, that depends on your definition of "desired publicity". :-)
>>
>> Personally I've never been much of a fan of "publicising" my free
>> software. If people like stuff, they will blog about it or stick it on
>> reddit or whatever. I'm happy if other people want to use it, but I
>> don't see bpython's current level of publicity as being an issue. If
>> you disagree, you're welcome to blog as much as you like ! ;-)
>>
>> > Google Summer of Code is an event organized by google in which google
>> > funds projects, 5500$ each idea which is carried by a student under a
>> > mentor. It has been already announced for this year -
>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_t...
>> > .PSF has been into GSoC since its beginning. Here is their last year
>> > pages -
>> http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2009/pythonhttp://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2009?action=show&redirect=Su.
>> ..
>> > I feel bpython should apply for GSoC, may be under the umbrella of
>> > PSF. However it will take someone to take the effort to apply, create
>> > ideas-list and propose themselves as mentor for that idea. But I feel
>> > the gain is worth it. What is the community take on this ?
>>
>> If you could give me a rough idea of what specifically you think the
>> project will gain from this, I'd be happy to hear it. I'm not against
>> the idea; I just don't really understand what we stand to gain here.
>> We have ideas that are half-finished and issues that we want to fix,
>> but there's not a great deal of major work that needs doing. Somebody
>> is working on an implementation of bpython that interfaces with pdb
>> and somebody else is working on porting bpython to urwid. We also have
>> preliminary GTK support, which means we're not far away from having a
>> Windows version.
>>
>> Once these things are done, I don't really see a great deal more we
>> want to do with the project other than fix bugs as they arise. If you
>> can think of a particular "big" feature that you think would benefit
>> bpython, and one that isn't already being worked on by somebody else,
>> then please propose it and outline why you think applying to GSoC
>> would be a good idea.
>>
>> I'm of course interested in bpython growing and improving as a
>> project, but attempting to raise awareness and the number of users of
>> the software just isn't something I have any interest in personally.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your email though; it's always nice to hear positive
>> feedback. :-)
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