Well, I've heard this same tale from other customers about Humanware. So 
this doesn't say a thing. It's just one opinion versus another. I hear 
that Humanware gouges you on prices. their Brailliant displays are more 
expensive than other vendors products. that's just an example. their 
resusal to send me a braille manual via free matter for the blind is 
another example. so you see, this line of discussion goes nowhere. It 
proves nothing. If you don't like a product, I wish you would give more 
concrete ideas so others can learn something. I see advantages in both 
units and that's a good thing I think.
I traded my last Pac Mate because I saw something I wanted more. I am 
happy with that trade.
the Pac Mate has instant messenger now. It can be used with a tty for the 
deaf-blind. the gps for the Pac Mate is a heck of a lot cheaper than for 
the Braillenote.
the upgrades for the Pac mate are free!!!!!!!
they're not cumulative either!!!!!!!!
I think you get the point. Show merits for a product. As I said, I see 
good points in both products.
Isaac

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005, Kathy Williams wrote:

> Yes, there were some interesting things about the pakmate.However, their 
> salesman at the convention wher I saw it was so flip and illinformed that I 
> was unable to learn just what they were and weren't.  For instance I couldn't 
> get a straight answer from him about whether all was lost when power was lost 
> or how much had to be restored, something that   was talked about much and 
> seemed to be far better with the braillevoicenote. I also couldn't get a 
> straight answer from him as to the cost of a model without braille because I 
> was supposed to want braille more than life itself.I'm afraid the salesman is 
> reflected in the view of the product, and Humanware has a much better image 
> as far as I was concerned. Given that the Creative Labs MuVo plays books just 
> fine, having them play on the voicemante would just be a plus, not a necesity 
> for me. And certainly not reason to by a product that was so offputting from 
> the start.
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