Yes, I couldn't agree more but I keep at this file manager because for someone who learned with dos had a horrendous time with that and when windows came out I took to it like a duck takes to water. I too enjoy the ease of learning but in my view and it is a limited view at that, the file manager is unnecessarily confusing. I have had my braille note for 3 and a half years and it has only been in the last 6 or so months that I have been able to more or less and mostly less peck my way through the file manager. I am not expecting a completely redesigned keysoft, just an expanded one which is more up to date with today'stechnology.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kylee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows


Hi, Mary

As someone whose very first processor was a Keynote back in 1987, I find
that most of Keysoft's features are very intuitive and, though I'd used many
different processors in the years between that first Keynote and my first
BN, the transition was very easy because I was already somewhat familiar
with Keysoft's ways. The ability to manipulate the clipboard, for example, is not something Windows has ever introduced, though Freedom scientific has finally added it to the features of JFW7. I was a heavy user of WordPerfect
5.1, and have never liked Word in the same way, though I've learned how to
use it.

Windows is a visual system to which we as blind people must adapt, like much
of the world.  But a growing number of the world's disabled people are
looking for inclusion: that is to say that accessibility would not be just
an ad-on but an integral part of a whole.  I'm wondering if this isn't why
people love Keysoft so much.  It's ready-made for us, and perhaps it has
things to learn from the Windows operating system, but perhaps Windows could
learn from some of the features of Keysoft, too.

Cheers

Kylee

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows


Hi folks,
There has been a thread under  the topic of suggestions for keysoft. Some
people have expressed a desire that the interface look more like windows,
while others are seriously opposed to such changes. I have never
owned a braille note, although I'd like to get a voice note and gps. I
understand that back when the note family was introduced, not many blind
people were familiar with Windows. Most of us dos users did not go
quietly into the Windows world, and the learning curve was steep for ost,
myself definitely among them. Its been said that the keysoft interface is
intuitive flr blind people. My sense is that peoples' reactions to this
whole notion of changing the interface has to do with what we are familiar
with and what is intuitive for us because of familiarity. It strikes me that
not  being able to open files from the file manager is certainly not
intuitive. Would those of you who don't want the Windows interface agree?
As a non-user of the Note family of products, and as one who is fairly
familiar with Windows, I admit that I find the idea of learning a
nonstandard proprietary interface, which I won't be able to use anywhere
else somewhat off putting. and please, nobody suggest that people who want
windows should buy the compeditive products, which may have
other serious shortcomings. For those of you who like the present
interface, what would you say are advantages over Windows? Lack of
multitasking is a disadvantage, as is not being able to open files from
within the
manager. Context sensitive help is good, but its not interface dependent.
You can have that sort of help regardless of interface. So, what's good
about the keysoft interface that you don't feel is present or is not
efficient in a more Windows-like interface?
Mary.



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