I would also like to sea the format menu have a revert to what you've changed 
I'm taking an english class and every time we do an esay which is quite often 
now I have to do the changes over again
just my rambleing

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nicole Torcolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:21:32 -0800
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows

>    I would like to see more defaults everywhere.  I get tired of switching
>to line reading mode every time I create a new file and I always use the
>same network configuration.
>    Also, I used windows before using Keysoft.  However, I like Keysoft
>better.  It is simpler, that's about all I can say.  I don't know how to
>explain it, but it just seems to come more naturally than windows.  Also, I
>always know what my BN is doing.  When something goes wrong in windows, it's
>so hard to figure out what's wrong, and that's always when JAWS decides not
>to work.

>Nicole
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:50 PM
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows


>I would also like to see the following change.  I would like to always
>see a list of all files in a folder.  I would like to be able to set
>this as my default.  Certainly it shouldn't be everyone's default, but I
>would simply like to have that option.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
>Ring
>Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:50 PM
>To: Braillenote List
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows


>Frankly, the main change I would like to see is the ability to open
>files from within the "file manager" and I would like to see a cut down
>on some of the repetitive messaging.
>For example, if I wish  to visit a web site, each and every time I wish
>to visit a site, I will be asked which configuration I wish to use in
>order to connect, even if I only have one such configuration created.
>I think the real problem I have with File Manager is that rather than
>allowing the user to simply scroll through a file list and make any
>changes he/she might like to make, the only thing you can do while in
>that list is to check the size and the last modified date of a file.
>I would like to be able to delete, copy, rename, move etc right from
>that initial list of files.  Insofar as being intuitive, I would say
>that the Braillenote is easy to teach because it is extremely consistent
>and all actions are menu driven.  I wouldn't change that, I just want a
>file manager that doesn't require me to go to a menu each and every time
>I want to take an action on a file.  I am probably making things too
>Windows-like for the rest of the folks on this list, so I'll never get
>my wish (smile)
>That's ok, you can't always get want you want
>But if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need!
> -----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:22 PM
>To: Braillenote List
>Subject: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows


>Hi folks,
>There has been a thread under  the topic of suggestions for keysoft.
>Some people have expressed a desire that the interface look more like
>windows, while others are seriously opposed to such changes.  I have
>never
>owned a braille note, although I'd like to get a voice note and gps.  I
>understand that back when the note family was introduced, not many blind
>people were familiar with Windows.  Most of us dos users did not go
>quietly into the Windows world, and the learning curve was steep for
>ost, myself definitely among them.  Its been said that the keysoft
>interface is intuitive flr blind people.  My sense is that peoples'
>reactions to this
>whole notion of changing the interface has to do with what we are
>familiar with and what is intuitive for us because of familiarity.  It
>strikes me that not  being able to open files from the file manager is
>certainly not
>intuitive.  Would those of you who don't want the Windows interface
>agree? As a non-user of the Note family of products, and as one who is
>fairly familiar with Windows, I admit that I find the idea of learning a

>nonstandard proprietary interface, which I won't be able to use anywhere
>else somewhat off putting.  and please, nobody suggest that people who
>want windows should buy the compeditive products, which may have
>other serious shortcomings.  For those of you who like the present
>interface, what would you say are advantages over Windows? Lack of
>multitasking is a disadvantage, as is not being able to open files from
>within the
>manager.  Context sensitive help is good, but its not interface
>dependent.  You can have that sort of help regardless of interface.  So,
>what's good about the keysoft interface that you don't feel is present
>or is not
>efficient in a more Windows-like interface?
>Mary.



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