Unfortunately, I am only familiar with the note family of products. I had a Braille Lite before my BN, and that's all I really knew about (besides the other Freedom Scientific Products). Could someone please tell me about whatever came before the BN? Just out of interest.

Thanks
Nicole
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Hi Nicole;
I find the BN very easy to understand. The problem is learning all the steps to make the computer and BN work together. I have a Braille Mate and never got anywhere with it. The BN is logical and easy to understand. I am sure I will love 7.0 even more than my 5.1 that I have now. I will never give it up. My BN is my escape from jumbo print and almost total usage of braille and speach.
Terry Powers


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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:22 PM
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   I would like to see more defaults everywhere.  I get tired of switching
to line reading mode every time I create a new file and I always use the
same network configuration.
   Also, I used windows before using Keysoft.  However, I like Keysoft
better.  It is simpler, that's about all I can say.  I don't know how to
explain it, but it just seems to come more naturally than windows.  Also, I
always know what my BN is doing.  When something goes wrong in windows, it's
so hard to figure out what's wrong, and that's always when JAWS decides not
to work.

Nicole
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I would also like to see the following change.  I would like to always
see a list of all files in a folder.  I would like to be able to set
this as my default.  Certainly it shouldn't be everyone's default, but I
would simply like to have that option.

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Frankly, the main change I would like to see is the ability to open
files from within the "file manager" and I would like to see a cut down
on some of the repetitive messaging.
For example, if I wish  to visit a web site, each and every time I wish
to visit a site, I will be asked which configuration I wish to use in
order to connect, even if I only have one such configuration created.
I think the real problem I have with File Manager is that rather than
allowing the user to simply scroll through a file list and make any
changes he/she might like to make, the only thing you can do while in
that list is to check the size and the last modified date of a file.
I would like to be able to delete, copy, rename, move etc right from
that initial list of files.  Insofar as being intuitive, I would say
that the Braillenote is easy to teach because it is extremely consistent
and all actions are menu driven.  I wouldn't change that, I just want a
file manager that doesn't require me to go to a menu each and every time
I want to take an action on a file.  I am probably making things too
Windows-like for the rest of the folks on this list, so I'll never get
my wish (smile)
That's ok, you can't always get want you want
But if you try sometimes, you just might find you get what you need!
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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:22 PM
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Subject: [Braillenote] keysoft or windows


Hi folks,
There has been a thread under  the topic of suggestions for keysoft.
Some people have expressed a desire that the interface look more like
windows, while others are seriously opposed to such changes. I have
never
owned a braille note, although I'd like to get a voice note and gps. I
understand that back when the note family was introduced, not many blind
people were familiar with Windows. Most of us dos users did not go
quietly into the Windows world, and the learning curve was steep for
ost, myself definitely among them. Its been said that the keysoft
interface is intuitive flr blind people. My sense is that peoples'
reactions to this
whole notion of changing the interface has to do with what we are
familiar with and what is intuitive for us because of familiarity. It
strikes me that not  being able to open files from the file manager is
certainly not
intuitive. Would those of you who don't want the Windows interface
agree? As a non-user of the Note family of products, and as one who is
fairly familiar with Windows, I admit that I find the idea of learning a

nonstandard proprietary interface, which I won't be able to use anywhere
else somewhat off putting. and please, nobody suggest that people who
want windows should buy the compeditive products, which may have
other serious shortcomings. For those of you who like the present
interface, what would you say are advantages over Windows? Lack of
multitasking is a disadvantage, as is not being able to open files from
within the
manager. Context sensitive help is good, but its not interface
dependent. You can have that sort of help regardless of interface. So,
what's good about the keysoft interface that you don't feel is present
or is not
efficient in a more Windows-like interface?
Mary.



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