Jean; Say I want page 35, how would you put it in on the BT? Terry
-----Original Message----- From: Jean Menzies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:09 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower Hi Terry One more thing. Once you enter the go-to command with space plus dots 1-2-6, you can use space with dot 4 to go ahead exactly one page from where you are, or space with dot 1 to go back a page. That's also a very cool thing as you can jump quickly ahead even if you don't know exactly where you are in terms of page orientation. Of course, you could get that info with space plus dots 1-5-6, but you don't need that if you just want to quickly jump ahead or back a page at a time. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower > Hi Jean; > > You just did wonders. I read chapter 4 on book reader and it sent me > to > chapter 3 about page, line, column command. It does not say you have > to put > page and line together. > They gave letter sign dot 6 p space number sign number > they did the same with l and c for line and column. > How would anyone know you needed page and line together. This is not > graphics! > show me the write way to key it in, on a BT. > Terry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean Menzies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:38 PM > To: Braillenote List > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower > > > Hi Terry > > You have to understand the layout of the book you have. You can't > search for what isn't there. If the book didn't have the word > chapter, > then of course it won't find chapter. It's not like a go-to command > as > in go to where chapter one starts. Your search on the number 1 would > take you to the first occurrence of that character. If the book first > started with a table of contents, you would of course land on any page > number reference with a number one in it. To go to the next find > result, in other words the next location of the digit one, press space > with n on the BT keyboard for next occurrence. Sorry, I have no idea > what the qwerty keyboard equivalent is for that. > > To use the go to page, line or column command, use space with dots > 1-2-6. From here you can press space with h for help, or type in the > location you want. For example, p3, l1. That would go to page 3, line > 1. You must enter a line number as well as a page number. Just > entering > a page number is invalid. Remember to separate the fields with a > comma > and a space. > > So, if you have read a bit at the top and learn that chapter 1 starts > on > page 7 for example, you could use the go-to command of space with dots > 1-2-6, then type p7, l1 and press enter. You'll be at the top of page > 7. > > Hope that helps a bit. If you're not using a BT keyboard, then someone > else will have to give you the specific commands as I don't know them. > > Jean > > > Jean > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:59 AM > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower > > >> The book said paragraph mode at the beginning. >> Any ideas. I have not tried it on the actual story. I was trying to >> advance by a large amount of space to find the beginning of the book. >> Find >> chapter 1 did not work. When I finally got there, the word chapter >> was not >> there, just the number. >> I tried page numbers and ended up in the contence. >> Help. This is crazy. >> Terry Powers >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sarai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:43 AM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >> >> >> Your paragraph commands will only work if the reading mode is set to >> paragraph. The reading commands change function when the mode is set >> to >> lines or columns. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Powers, >> Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:23 AM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >> >> >> Teri; >> Did you see my problem with reading a book in paragraph format? If >> it >> is a listing, will that prevent the paragraph command not to work. I >> can not even get the find or surch for page, line or column to work. >> I >> had a terible time making it to the first chapter in chicken Soup for >> the soul book 2. They did not use the word chapter. I tried strait >> numbers and ended up in the contence. I have written about this >> before >> and got no responce. Please help me out. space with f is find space >> with 1,2,6 is for page, line, column >> >> Terry Powers >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pann1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:16 PM >> To: Steve Speicher >> Cc: Braillenote List >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >> >> >> Dear Steve and List, >> >> I will try again to explain how to get paragraphs to work right. >> >> Suppose you have a braille document opened. Each paragraph should >> begin >> with a hard return followed by two spaces. You want to translate the >> document into text and you want the paragraphs in the print document >> to >> begin with two hard returns. >> >> Go to the back translation options menu. You will be asked, >> "paragraphs >> in source document." You would press control enter to indicate the >> hard >> return and press the space bar twice to indicate the two spaces. I >> don't know what the commands are for a BT keyboard. Now, cycle >> through >> the back translations list until you come to "paragraph." Press >> control enter twice to indicate you want two hard returns in your >> print >> paragraphs. I don't know the BT commands. Exit and press y to save >> the >> changes. >> >> Suppose you have a text document you plan to translate into braille. >> >> Go to the forward translation options list. You will be asked >> "paragraph in source file" If your text document paragraphs begin >> with >> two hard returns, then press control space bar or the equivalent BT >> command until you get to "blank line." Now, cycle through the >> forward >> translations list until you get to "Paragraph." Press control enter >> spacebar spacebar or the BT equivalent command to indicate you want >> the >> paragraphs in the braille document to be a hard return followed by >> two >> spaces. Exit and save the changes. >> >> If you want these settings to be the defaults for all your documents, >> be >> sure to use the forward translation options and back translation >> options >> in the file manager menu. >> >> Once you have set up these options, you will be able to open and read >> a >> braille or text document using the paragraph commands. >> >> Now, if you want the thumb keys to jump from one paragraph to >> another, >> you would go to the braille display options and look for thumb keys. >> There are three choices: up and down, sentence or line and paragraph >> or >> section. Choose paragraph or section. Now your thumb keys will >> scroll >> from paragraph to paragraph. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> Terri, Amateur Radio call sign, KF6CA. Army MARS call sign, AAT9PX >> California >> >> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Steve Speicher wrote: >> >> Good morning, Jean: >> >> Here are two approaches to the movement-by-paragraph issue. >> >> 1. As Dean mentioned, a blank line will cause the space-with-2,3 and >> space-with-5,6 commands to work as you expect them two. But to get a >> blank line, you have to hit the enter key twice. One difficulty with >> this approach is that the blank line created in this way is honored >> when >> embossing and so wastes precious space on the embossed page. To avoid >> that problem, when you have finished editing the document and are >> ready >> to emboss, you could use the global find and replace to, so to speak, >> prepare the document for embossing by converting all occurrences of >> the >> double return to one return followed by two blank spaces. In the >> embossed document, the single return followed by the two blank spaces >> will give you two-space indents at the beginning of each paragraph >> but >> will not skip a line between paragraphs. If you want to do some more >> editing, simply reverse the global find and replace to convert each >> occurrence of a return followed by two spaces to two returns. In the >> find and replace operation, to produce the return character, press >> space >> with dots 2 and 6. You wouldn't need to convert back, since the >> two-space indents created with the first global replace will now make >> the move-by-paragraph commands work as you expect. But you might >> want >> to convert back if you want that blank line between paragraphs for >> the >> printing (instead of embossing) of the document, or if you need to do >> more editing and just want to save a keystroke at each paragraph >> break. >> >> 2. If you don't mind an extra keystroke at each paragraph break, you >> can >> press enter then add two spaces at the beginning of the new line. >> This >> requires three keystrokes (return and two spaces) instead of two (two >> returns); but it makes the move-by-paragraph commands work as you >> expect; and it avoids the need for switching back and forth between >> two >> versions of the document, one formatted for reading and one for >> embossing. Of course, if you want to print the document rather than >> emboss it, you might want the blank line between paragraphs. >> >> There's probably a third, better way to address the question. I hope >> one >> of our fine listers will post it, as I, too, would like to know what >> it >> is and how to format a document in such a way that it works equally >> well >> for printing or embossing.. >> >> >> >> At 07:24 PM 9/5/2005, you wrote: >>>Okay. As far as I can figure this out so far, here's what I think is >>>happening with moving by paragraph with space dots 2-3 or 5-6. . It >>>works fine in any text file. It works fine in any text file >>>converted >>>to braille. It works fine in the Demonstration file included in the >>>General folder by Humanware. I gather this is a braille document >>>created just to play with. Notably, it has one carriage return to >>>separate paragraphs. >>> >>>But I can't move by paragraph in any braille file I create. I've >>>experimented with as many combinations of reading mode and thumb key >>>combos, but no go. It wants two carriage returns in a braille file >>>in >>>order to recognize it as a paragraph. All of the layout options are >>>unchanged. >>> >>>Anyone have any ideas? Could this be a bug or something in 6.2? I >>>would assume one shold be able to move by paragraph in a braille doc >>>you create. >>> >>>Jean >>> >>> >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >>> >>>__________ NOD32 1.1204 (20050829) Information __________ >>> >>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
