Thanks Jean, saves me from having to read all over again. In example they had it capitalized, that is why I wanted the right way. Terry
-----Original Message----- From: Jean Menzies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:57 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower Hi Terry Press space with dots 1-2-6 for the go-to command. At the prompt press P number sign 35 comma space l 1 enter. If you had wanted a different line use a different number other than 1. But that takes you to the first line on page 35. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower > Jean; > Say I want page 35, how would you put it in on the BT? > Terry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean Menzies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:09 PM > To: Braillenote List > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower > > > Hi Terry > > One more thing. Once you enter the go-to command with space plus dots > 1-2-6, you can use space with dot 4 to go ahead exactly one page from > where you are, or space with dot 1 to go back a page. That's also a > very cool thing as you can jump quickly ahead even if you don't know > exactly where you are in terms of page orientation. Of course, you > could get that info with space plus dots 1-5-6, but you don't need > that > if you just want to quickly jump ahead or back a page at a time. > > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:58 PM > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower > > >> Hi Jean; >> >> You just did wonders. I read chapter 4 on book reader and it sent me >> to >> chapter 3 about page, line, column command. It does not say you have >> to put >> page and line together. >> They gave letter sign dot 6 p space number sign number >> they did the same with l and c for line and column. >> How would anyone know you needed page and line together. This is not >> graphics! >> show me the write way to key it in, on a BT. >> Terry >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jean Menzies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:38 PM >> To: Braillenote List >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >> >> >> Hi Terry >> >> You have to understand the layout of the book you have. You can't >> search for what isn't there. If the book didn't have the word >> chapter, >> then of course it won't find chapter. It's not like a go-to command >> as >> in go to where chapter one starts. Your search on the number 1 would >> take you to the first occurrence of that character. If the book >> first >> started with a table of contents, you would of course land on any >> page >> number reference with a number one in it. To go to the next find >> result, in other words the next location of the digit one, press >> space >> with n on the BT keyboard for next occurrence. Sorry, I have no idea >> what the qwerty keyboard equivalent is for that. >> >> To use the go to page, line or column command, use space with dots >> 1-2-6. From here you can press space with h for help, or type in the >> location you want. For example, p3, l1. That would go to page 3, >> line >> 1. You must enter a line number as well as a page number. Just >> entering >> a page number is invalid. Remember to separate the fields with a >> comma >> and a space. >> >> So, if you have read a bit at the top and learn that chapter 1 starts >> on >> page 7 for example, you could use the go-to command of space with >> dots >> 1-2-6, then type p7, l1 and press enter. You'll be at the top of >> page >> 7. >> >> Hope that helps a bit. If you're not using a BT keyboard, then >> someone >> else will have to give you the specific commands as I don't know >> them. >> >> Jean >> >> >> Jean >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:59 AM >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >> >> >>> The book said paragraph mode at the beginning. >>> Any ideas. I have not tried it on the actual story. I was trying >>> to >>> advance by a large amount of space to find the beginning of the >>> book. >>> Find >>> chapter 1 did not work. When I finally got there, the word chapter >>> was not >>> there, just the number. >>> I tried page numbers and ended up in the contence. >>> Help. This is crazy. >>> Terry Powers >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sarai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:43 AM >>> To: 'Braillenote List' >>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >>> >>> >>> Your paragraph commands will only work if the reading mode is set to >>> paragraph. The reading commands change function when the mode is set >>> to >>> lines or columns. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Powers, >>> Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) >>> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:23 AM >>> To: 'Braillenote List' >>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >>> >>> >>> Teri; >>> Did you see my problem with reading a book in paragraph format? If >>> it >>> is a listing, will that prevent the paragraph command not to work. >>> I >>> can not even get the find or surch for page, line or column to work. >>> I >>> had a terible time making it to the first chapter in chicken Soup >>> for >>> the soul book 2. They did not use the word chapter. I tried strait >>> numbers and ended up in the contence. I have written about this >>> before >>> and got no responce. Please help me out. space with f is find space >>> with 1,2,6 is for page, line, column >>> >>> Terry Powers >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pann1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:16 PM >>> To: Steve Speicher >>> Cc: Braillenote List >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading modes with mPower >>> >>> >>> Dear Steve and List, >>> >>> I will try again to explain how to get paragraphs to work right. >>> >>> Suppose you have a braille document opened. Each paragraph should >>> begin >>> with a hard return followed by two spaces. You want to translate >>> the >>> document into text and you want the paragraphs in the print document >>> to >>> begin with two hard returns. >>> >>> Go to the back translation options menu. You will be asked, >>> "paragraphs >>> in source document." You would press control enter to indicate the >>> hard >>> return and press the space bar twice to indicate the two spaces. I >>> don't know what the commands are for a BT keyboard. Now, cycle >>> through >>> the back translations list until you come to "paragraph." Press >>> control enter twice to indicate you want two hard returns in your >>> print >>> paragraphs. I don't know the BT commands. Exit and press y to save >>> the >>> changes. >>> >>> Suppose you have a text document you plan to translate into braille. >>> >>> Go to the forward translation options list. You will be asked >>> "paragraph in source file" If your text document paragraphs begin >>> with >>> two hard returns, then press control space bar or the equivalent BT >>> command until you get to "blank line." Now, cycle through the >>> forward >>> translations list until you get to "Paragraph." Press control enter >>> spacebar spacebar or the BT equivalent command to indicate you want >>> the >>> paragraphs in the braille document to be a hard return followed by >>> two >>> spaces. Exit and save the changes. >>> >>> If you want these settings to be the defaults for all your >>> documents, >>> be >>> sure to use the forward translation options and back translation >>> options >>> in the file manager menu. >>> >>> Once you have set up these options, you will be able to open and >>> read >>> a >>> braille or text document using the paragraph commands. >>> >>> Now, if you want the thumb keys to jump from one paragraph to >>> another, >>> you would go to the braille display options and look for thumb keys. >>> There are three choices: up and down, sentence or line and paragraph >>> or >>> section. Choose paragraph or section. Now your thumb keys will >>> scroll >>> from paragraph to paragraph. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> Terri, Amateur Radio call sign, KF6CA. Army MARS call sign, AAT9PX >>> California >>> >>> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Steve Speicher wrote: >>> >>> Good morning, Jean: >>> >>> Here are two approaches to the movement-by-paragraph issue. >>> >>> 1. As Dean mentioned, a blank line will cause the space-with-2,3 and >>> space-with-5,6 commands to work as you expect them two. But to get a >>> blank line, you have to hit the enter key twice. One difficulty with >>> this approach is that the blank line created in this way is honored >>> when >>> embossing and so wastes precious space on the embossed page. To >>> avoid >>> that problem, when you have finished editing the document and are >>> ready >>> to emboss, you could use the global find and replace to, so to >>> speak, >>> prepare the document for embossing by converting all occurrences of >>> the >>> double return to one return followed by two blank spaces. In the >>> embossed document, the single return followed by the two blank >>> spaces >>> will give you two-space indents at the beginning of each paragraph >>> but >>> will not skip a line between paragraphs. If you want to do some more >>> editing, simply reverse the global find and replace to convert each >>> occurrence of a return followed by two spaces to two returns. In the >>> find and replace operation, to produce the return character, press >>> space >>> with dots 2 and 6. You wouldn't need to convert back, since the >>> two-space indents created with the first global replace will now >>> make >>> the move-by-paragraph commands work as you expect. But you might >>> want >>> to convert back if you want that blank line between paragraphs for >>> the >>> printing (instead of embossing) of the document, or if you need to >>> do >>> more editing and just want to save a keystroke at each paragraph >>> break. >>> >>> 2. If you don't mind an extra keystroke at each paragraph break, you >>> can >>> press enter then add two spaces at the beginning of the new line. >>> This >>> requires three keystrokes (return and two spaces) instead of two >>> (two >>> returns); but it makes the move-by-paragraph commands work as you >>> expect; and it avoids the need for switching back and forth between >>> two >>> versions of the document, one formatted for reading and one for >>> embossing. Of course, if you want to print the document rather than >>> emboss it, you might want the blank line between paragraphs. >>> >>> There's probably a third, better way to address the question. I hope >>> one >>> of our fine listers will post it, as I, too, would like to know what >>> it >>> is and how to format a document in such a way that it works equally >>> well >>> for printing or embossing.. >>> >>> >>> >>> At 07:24 PM 9/5/2005, you wrote: >>>>Okay. As far as I can figure this out so far, here's what I think >>>>is >>>>happening with moving by paragraph with space dots 2-3 or 5-6. . It >>>>works fine in any text file. It works fine in any text file >>>>converted >>>>to braille. It works fine in the Demonstration file included in the >>>>General folder by Humanware. I gather this is a braille document >>>>created just to play with. Notably, it has one carriage return to >>>>separate paragraphs. >>>> >>>>But I can't move by paragraph in any braille file I create. I've >>>>experimented with as many combinations of reading mode and thumb key >>>>combos, but no go. It wants two carriage returns in a braille file >>>>in >>>>order to recognize it as a paragraph. All of the layout options are >>>>unchanged. >>>> >>>>Anyone have any ideas? Could this be a bug or something in 6.2? I >>>>would assume one shold be able to move by paragraph in a braille doc >>>>you create. >>>> >>>>Jean >>>> >>>> >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>> >>>> >>>>__________ NOD32 1.1204 (20050829) Information __________ >>>> >>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >>> ___ >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >>> ___ >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> > > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
