I'm amazed that Rusty is being put down for his comment. These are the same comments that have been made for weeks, just in a different way. We've complained about the price of units. Let him make his comment; he has that right. I believe his comment is, when you're paying that much money, $45 is quite a bit. He's also right in the fact that many places, if you purchase a large amount, say that shipping is free. Get off his case, please.
> ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:39:42 -0700 >Subject: RE: A sort of >retracktionorqualificationwas-RE:[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community >Terry, this isn't about me wanting something for nothing because I'm blind. >Sighted or blind, when you feel like you're getting something for nothing, >it feels good! I work hard for my money so if Humanware had told me, "The >shipping is included," even if it was just wrapped up in to the cost, I >would have felt like I had come out ahead. >I know this is a circular argument and that it sounds silly to want to be >hoodwinked. But this is certainly not about blindness. This is about the >fact that I'm dropping a big chunk of change, so I want to "feel" like I'm >getting a good deal. "feeling" is the name of the game here. >It's not going to happen and folks aren't dropping the "blind card" so I'm >bringing a close to this discussion. >Every one must like paying more money and you will behave like a good blind >person and not complain about it! :-) >Rusty >____________________ >Skype: rustyperez >Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >Check out my blog at >http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bray, Terry >Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:28 AM >To: Braillenote List >Subject: RE: A sort of retracktion >orqualificationwas-RE:[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community >Bravo: added to that the cost of fuel weather they ship express weather they >insure. >Sorry folks this is a totally ridiculous subject. This has absolutely >nothing to do with blindness and unless your willing to ship through the >mail your going to pay for it. HumanWare does not dictate to the shipping >company how much they need to charge and the shipper hardly gives a dam >weather you can see or not. Your dealing with equipment that cost thousands >not a book or a compact flash card this is about blind people thinking they >should get things for nothing. 45 is really not a lot to pay for insured >currier services. At least I assume its insured however when you are dealing >with what is technically fragile expensive equipment its better to be safe >than sorry. >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:58 PM >To: 'Braillenote List' >Subject: RE: A sort of retracktion or >qualificationwas-RE:[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community >Rusty, >No matter what you buy, you'll have to pay shipping. I had to pay it when I >bought my Dell computer. Our church had to pay it when they bought a $3000 >tape machine. The price doesn't matter. Your still going to pay shipping. >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Perez >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:40 PM >To: 'Braillenote List' >Subject: RE: A sort of retracktion or qualification >was-RE:[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community >Virgie, I'm not asking for a free lunch, particularly because I'm blind. >I am saying that I'm paying thousands of dollars for the equipment, to tack >on a $45 charge seems some how insulting. >WE aren't going to agree on this, and some people don't mind throwing money >around. I felt nickled and dimed. >____________________ >Skype: rustyperez >Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >Check out my blog at >http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of VIRGIE >UNDERWOOD >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:10 PM >To: Braillenote List >Subject: Re: A sort of retracktion or qualification was-RE: >[Braillenote]Gougingthe blind community >Hey friend, >There is no free lunch. >Amazon has many more shoppers than does Humanware and other companies who >sell Braille Notetakers to the blind. The real truth is that we have to pay >shipping costs and insurance costs just like the rest of the world. >Blindness does not give us special treatment for shipping on products. Grin! >Virgie Underwood >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:51 PM >Subject: A sort of retracktion or qualification was-RE: [Braillenote] >Gougingthe blind community >> Please understand me folks, >> I like my BN and I'm glad that humanware is offering the transplant >> program. They didn't have to. I also am aware that there's not much >> money in >this. >> What I'm talking about is the feeling of anger that I felt when I >> called, knowing that the cost of the machine is one thing, but that >> there are other things tacked on to it. You'll laugh at this, but I >> would have been happy if I felt like I got >> something for nothing. If they had said, the cost is X and shipping is >> free! >> Wow, I would have felt like I came out ahead. I know, it's silly. :-) >> Anyway, don't come down on me too hard. I love my BN, I'm getting the >> new one. I just feel nickled and dimed. >> Rusty >> ____________________ >> Skype: rustyperez >> Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >> Check out my blog at >> http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:59 PM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Gouging the blind community >> Uh, >> No, shipping costs have gone up especially due to fuel costs. Shipping >> for everything isn't absorbed by product price charges. They also >> insure the product when shipping. They won't charge your card till the >> work is done but will take your number down. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty >> Perez >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:28 PM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: [Braillenote] Gouging the blind community >> Hi folks, >> I just called to get myself on the transplant list. I would have done >> it sooner, but I was under the impression, given to me by a customer >> service person, that they would charge my card immediately, not when >> the work was done. >> Anyway, I got myself on the list, but I was surprised that I would be >> charged $45 for shipping. I was charged $15 to ship my keysoft 6.1 >> upgrade, and that was shipped in a completely non secure padded >> envelope, not weighing more than maybe 12 ounces. >> So, what's the deal here. If I by over $25.00 worth of stuff, Amazon >> gives me free shipping. So how come Humanware can't ship for free when >> we blind folks drop $2000 or more on their products? And they're >> probably going to resell my old BN classic and make more money! You'd >> think they'd at least fold the cost of shipping in to the total cost >> of the product, making themselves look magnanimous, and better than >> the competition. We'll all even have to pay to ship our old units back >> in. >> It's a bit obscene to me. If I asked for upgraded shipping, I'd >> understand; Amazon charges for that. There's nothing to be done about >> it, this is pretty much a closed market and we can't go any where >> else, but down, but I just want to register my disgust. >> Rusty >> ____________________ >> Skype: rustyperez >> Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >> Check out my blog at >> http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai >> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:10 AM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking >> Just find your network settings and hit backspace with lower g to >> delete record. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty >> Perez >> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:12 AM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking >> How and or where can I delete the network settings? >> Thanks! >> Rusty >> ____________________ >> Skype: rustyperez >> Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >> Check out my blog at >> http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:55 AM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking >> Just go delete the network settings from your BN and start over. Make >> sure your computer is set for a network. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty >> Perez >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:35 PM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking >> Hi Sarai, >> Thanks for the great step by step. >> Unfortunately, it didn't work. >> I went through the stepts as you outlined. Before though, I didn't get >> the network connected. That is, I didn't "turn on" wireless. So, >> things started just beeping. Then, I figured it out. After that, I >> started the wireless. I know because I'm able to surf the web. But, >> when I try to "brouse >network" >> I >> just get endless beeping. One possibility could be that maybe I >> misbrailled the user name or password. Is there a way to change or >> check this? >> Thanks! >> Rusty >> ____________________ >> Skype: rustyperez >> Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >> Check out my blog at >> http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:57 AM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking >> Okay, >> You can do this. I'm using a BN BT w/ 6.1 and an XP machine with Jaws >> so my instructions will be for that Machine. You also need your user >> name and log on pass word, as well as your server name. Your server >> name is found under settings control panel, system and then shift tab >> to computer name and use Jaws cursor to read the needed info. Now that >> you have all your info, do the >> following: 1. Select network from the drive list 2. At network place, >> hit space twice 3. Press enter on browse entire network 4. At the >> network server prompt, type in the name, make sure its spelled >> correctly. 5. If your computer asks you to log in, here is where you >> type in the name and pass word. Don't forget to use compute r Braille >> 6. >> Press space with e and it will ask to save password or user name. >> 8. Then you will be asked to update the log in info. >> If yes, then you'll get a warning about saving it , but if you say yes >> then you won't need to log in again. I said yes because I['m >> connecting to my personal PC. >> 9. Now you can type in the name of the network folder, or hit space to >> search for it. On mine, I see something like shared documents. >> 11. You'll hear network place and then the folder name. Either type >> another folder name, or hit enter. Now your in the same folder >> structure as normal. >> 12. Now you can access it now that you have everything set up. >> Hope this helps. >> Make sure your wireless card is in and wireless is on. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty >> Perez >> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:11 PM >> To: 'Braillenote List' >> Subject: [Braillenote] Braillenote and networking >> Hi folks, >> I'm new on the list, though I've had my bn for a long time. >> I'm just beginning to use the BrailleNote wirelessly. >> I have a wireless home network. What I'd like to do is create files >> on my >> BN, then save them to another machine, the only other machine, on >the >> network. Then, of course, edit them with the other computer. Now, I >> understand that I must save in word format ETC. >> What I'd like to know is how to configure things so that the BN >> will see the >> disk on the other machine so I can save to it. >> Any thoughts? >> Thanks! >> Rusty >> ____________________ >> Skype: rustyperez >> Yahoo and AIM: reliroo >> Check out my blog at >> http://rusty-perez.blogspot.com >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
