Terri,
I use an mp with wireless but used dial up for a long time and
the only time I lost user names is when doing a jkl reset.
Stacey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:42:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Keyweb and Internet Explorer
Yes, I'm using an MP with a dial-up connection. Keyweb _doesn't
retain
username or password and it doesn't remember where I've been.
I'm using a
QT, not a BT model.
Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign
AAT9PX,
California
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:51 AM
Subject: re: [Braillenote] Keyweb and Internet Explorer
: Well, that is interesting. Are you using an mPower? Mine
always
: remembers where I was on a page, and takes me there when I go
: back or forward in the history. It also saves automatically,
so
: until I do a hard reset my username is saved. I have only to
: enter my password and hit the login button. I agree that more
: info should be given, but you really get used to not having it.
: The command, on a BT anyway, to have the cursor on a link
without
: "clicking" that link is the PREVIOUS thumb key (the one on the
: extreme left) held down while you hit a cursor routing key over
: the linked text.
:
: Good luck, and just keep playing with it. It takes some
getting
: used to, and the acceptance that it will not behave the same
nor
: be as powerful as IE on a computer.
: Alex
:
: > ----- Original Message -----
: >From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >To: "BrailleNote List" <[email protected]
: >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:58:07 -0700
: >Subject: [Braillenote] Keyweb and Internet Explorer
:
: >Dear List,
:
: >I have been using Keyweb for the past several days because I
was
: not home
: >and I didn't have access to my PC. Most of the time, I surf
the
: web using
: >my PC with Internet Explorer and WindowEyes for my screen
reader.
: I'm not
: >the best web-surfer and I haven't had as much experience with
: Keyweb as some
: >of you but I have noticed some differences.
:
: >1. The web pages load faster using Keyweb, but they look
totally
: alien to
: >me. For one thing, the braille displays links, edit boxes,
: frames and
: >tables buttons and dialog boxes appear differently. I suppose
: this must be
: >because HumanWare decided to use different symbols and
: abbreviations than GW
: >Micro does. I suppose people who use the shark have learned
yet
: another set
: >of braille symbols and abbreviations. Although I think
Keysoft
: is usually
: >intuitive, I find Keyweb not to be so intuitive with its
symbols
: and
: >abbreviations. It's too bad there aren't a standard set of
: symbols and
: >abbreviations for all braille displays.
:
: >2. I don't know if it's just me, but I have noticed web pages
on
: the PC
: >have more details than web pages on the BN. For example,
let's
: take the
: >www.amazon site. I don't remember seeing a special link for
: screen readers
: >when I looked at it using the BN, but the link jumped out at
me
: when I used
: >the PC. I also found it harder to search for an item using
the
: BN than
: >using the PC.
:
: >3. The layout of the web pages seems different. On the BN,
the
: text goes
: >across the line with lots of space between columns. I find
this
: extra space
: >to be annoying. But on the PC, the columns are laid out
: vertically and the
: >lines are shorter. The BN occasionally gives details about
the
: web page,
: >but WindowEyes always gives details like: "11 tables, x amout
of
: rows, x
: >columns x frames and x headings and x subheadings." It also
: tells me when
: >I'm starting to look at a new table, but the BN doesn't.
Since I
: can't tell
: >where one table ends and the next begins, I can't jump from
one
: table to the
: >next.
:
: >4. If a site, like Google, has an edit box, WindowEyes will
: automatically
: >jump to the edit box but the BN always places me at the top of
: the page and
: >I have to wade through the links to find the edit box. Also,
: when I go back
: >and forth between web pages, WindowEyes remembers where I left
: off but the
: >BN doesn't.
:
: >5. This difference has been mentioned before, but I can't
: understand why it
: >exists. I'm referring to the fact that Windows on my PC will
: remember my
: >username and password when I go to certain web sites but the
BN
: won't.
: >Also, I'm more certain to have trouble typing in my username
and
: password
: >and having the site recognize it when I use the BN. This is
: annoying,
: >especially when I want to use a "quickcheckout" or "1-click
: purchase" at an
: >online store. In fact, I couldn't even checkout with one
: store--I had to
: >phone in my order. But previously, I had been able to set up
an
: account and
: >checkout using my PC. If I had had a PC at my location, I
could
: have placed
: >the order online.
:
: >6. The BN shows everything in one grade of braille. This is
: fine except
: >(1) when I'm looking at a URL or email address and (2) when I
: write in an
: >edit box. I can't even route the cursor to the computereze
and
: see the URL
: >or email address in computer braille like I can when I'm using
: Keymail.
: >WindowEyes, on the other hand, will always show anything under
: the cursor to
: >be in computer braille. Is there a way to route the BN's
cursor
: to an item
: >without accessing a link?
:
: >Can someone explain why Keyweb and the BN behaves differently
: from the PC
: >and WindowEyes? Does it have to do with the platform,
(Windows
: CE versus
: >Windows XP) and the methods of interpreting the web sites?
:
: >Thanks for any insight.
:
: >Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign
: AAT9PX,
: >California
:
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