Hi Sammy,
The one point I made which you missed is, that the National Library
Service has to build for the senior citizens and others who are not
computer literate and who simply want to press a button and hear their
books.  They're not aiming at people who understand technology, and they
shouldn't.  Reading should be as simple as possible for everyone.  The
state Library for the Blind is located in the same building as the
Department for the Blind, and you wouldn't believe how many calls are
received because people get confused by the four track tape system that
is currently in use.
Of course there are people of any age who can handle computers,
finances, and anything else; but NLS is building machines that will be
useable by people who are not interested in learning technology, and
frankly, that was the only point I was trying to make.
No insult was intended.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sammie clay
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:29 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines


Hello Richard and list,

   Those of us who own Braille, voice notes, and PKS who are the 
seniors you are referring to  can, and do, put our SD cards into 
their little slots alone and without youngsters assistance.  As 
one of those old 80-year-olds I can manage my finances on the 
database Rhonda Clark helped me create.  It keeps a monthly 
record of what my mortgage and condo fees are, all the silly 
things old people like me spend our money on which includes both 
my guide dog and my own health care, and provides great records 
for my tax man.  However, I agree with you, I don't want to pay 
for a modification that the NLS will provide a free reader for.  
And I believe that Humanware is the designer of, and will produce 
this reader for NLS.
   Also, I'd like to remind many of you that some of us old 
codgers purchased our Braille or Voice notes because we knew 
Braille, but had problems with 128 keys on the computer keyboard.  
We like and use our devices because we don't have to learn to use 
a computer.  We can create, print, emboss, send and receive 
information, and play around in the internet with these handy 
tools and all without a personal computer or the help of our 
grand and great-grand children.  And we don't begrudge those of 
you who use personal computers or qwerty keyboards with your 
Braille or Voice notes your right to do so.
   Also, I don't know where you meet your 80-year olds, but your 
job as a rehabilitation counselor should be teaching them 
independent living skills and not criticizing their ability or 
inability to stick an SD card in a little slot.  You should show 
them how to do it!
   I personally don't care what kind of new features Humanware 
create for their devices.  I will pay for each upgrade and use 
only the feature(s) I want.  The upgrade to the MPower and 7.01 
gave me the ability to receive E-mail faster and to record 
meetings I attend, nothing else.  in my dotage, I play only 
blackjack, poker, bridge, and pinochle in tournaments or in Los 
Vegas, so my games on the BrailleNote are history.  I am however 
waiting for the upgrade that will give me a Dictionary and 
Thesaurus which I'll be able to use in my school work.  
Hopefully, The dictionary will provide good definitions and word 
pronunciations as well as the correct spelling feature of the 
spell checker.

Sammie Clay

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Ring"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:36:17 -0500
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines

>One of the reasons for NLS having a rather proprietary 
"cartridge" is
>that the majority of NLS users are not computer literate, and 
they are
>fairly elderly.  They want something that will be easy to handle 
and
>durable.  Imagine all those 80 year old folks trying to stick an 
sd card
>into a slot?
>NLS has to play to the lowest common denominator, they really 
have no
>choice.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Rusty Perez
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:21 PM
>To: 'Braillenote List'
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines


>This is discouraging to me.  Paranoya is driving the production 
here and,
>I'm
>sure, costing tons of money if they are designing an entirely new 
and
>different media hitherto unbeheld by human hand, SIMPLY for the
>supersecret
>storage of books for "THE BLIND."
>Unless this storage media becomes and industry standard--maybe 
they're
>working with sandisc or some other maker--this storage card will 
quickly
>become obselete and, as with parallel ports may not appear on 
future
>machines, if it ever appears on non nls machines.

>It just seems like a lot of trouble, when "protected" books are 
already
>being created.
>We'll all have the privelege of getting yet another machine to 
play nls
>books.  It's a good thing they're going to be free.

>Rusty



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>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Powers,
>Terry
>(NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:18 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines




>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:46 AM
>To: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>Subject: RE: new nls machines

>It's not a kind of card that is compatible with any other machine 
at
>this
>moment.  It is a new design.  But I'm pretty sure that as the NLS
>players
>and cartridges go into production, adapters, cables and software
>revisions
>will become available to make these devices work together.  Ask 
me the
>question again in about 18 or 24 months from now.  Books will 
become
>downloadable at about that time, but the current BrailleNote 
software
>will
>not be able to play the files we are planning to produce.  The 
average
>11-hour book will be about 128 megabytes long.  Because they 
contain
>audio
>they are more than a hundred times as big as the comparable 
Braille
>file.
>Don't worry too much about this; the pieces are slowly coming 
together.

>Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
>Home:  http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>Work:  http://www.loc.gov/nls


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:55 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: new nls machines


>> Hi Lloyd;
>> Do you know what kind of card NLS will be putting their books on 
with
>> this new system.  Will they work on the Braille Note.  If not, 
will
>they
>> be downloadable from the site?

>> Terry


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