Hello,
Someone yesterday, asked if people would take this off list, and
I would really appreciate it if you guys would consider doing
that.
This thread has gone on long enough and there is no cooralation
to the braillenote at this point.
Thank you,
Robert
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From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:46:47 -0500
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines
Hi Sammy,
The one point I made which you missed is, that the National
Library
Service has to build for the senior citizens and others who are
not
computer literate and who simply want to press a button and hear
their
books. They're not aiming at people who understand technology,
and they
shouldn't. Reading should be as simple as possible for everyone.
The
state Library for the Blind is located in the same building as
the
Department for the Blind, and you wouldn't believe how many calls
are
received because people get confused by the four track tape
system that
is currently in use.
Of course there are people of any age who can handle computers,
finances, and anything else; but NLS is building machines that
will be
useable by people who are not interested in learning technology,
and
frankly, that was the only point I was trying to make.
No insult was intended.
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sammie clay
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:29 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines
Hello Richard and list,
Those of us who own Braille, voice notes, and PKS who are the
seniors you are referring to can, and do, put our SD cards into
their little slots alone and without youngsters assistance. As
one of those old 80-year-olds I can manage my finances on the
database Rhonda Clark helped me create. It keeps a monthly
record of what my mortgage and condo fees are, all the silly
things old people like me spend our money on which includes both
my guide dog and my own health care, and provides great records
for my tax man. However, I agree with you, I don't want to pay
for a modification that the NLS will provide a free reader for.
And I believe that Humanware is the designer of, and will produce
this reader for NLS.
Also, I'd like to remind many of you that some of us old
codgers purchased our Braille or Voice notes because we knew
Braille, but had problems with 128 keys on the computer keyboard.
We like and use our devices because we don't have to learn to use
a computer. We can create, print, emboss, send and receive
information, and play around in the internet with these handy
tools and all without a personal computer or the help of our
grand and great-grand children. And we don't begrudge those of
you who use personal computers or qwerty keyboards with your
Braille or Voice notes your right to do so.
Also, I don't know where you meet your 80-year olds, but your
job as a rehabilitation counselor should be teaching them
independent living skills and not criticizing their ability or
inability to stick an SD card in a little slot. You should show
them how to do it!
I personally don't care what kind of new features Humanware
create for their devices. I will pay for each upgrade and use
only the feature(s) I want. The upgrade to the MPower and 7.01
gave me the ability to receive E-mail faster and to record
meetings I attend, nothing else. in my dotage, I play only
blackjack, poker, bridge, and pinochle in tournaments or in Los
Vegas, so my games on the BrailleNote are history. I am however
waiting for the upgrade that will give me a Dictionary and
Thesaurus which I'll be able to use in my school work.
Hopefully, The dictionary will provide good definitions and word
pronunciations as well as the correct spelling feature of the
spell checker.
Sammie Clay
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:36:17 -0500
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines
One of the reasons for NLS having a rather proprietary
"cartridge" is
that the majority of NLS users are not computer literate, and
they are
fairly elderly. They want something that will be easy to handle
and
durable. Imagine all those 80 year old folks trying to stick an
sd card
into a slot?
NLS has to play to the lowest common denominator, they really
have no
choice.
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Rusty Perez
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:21 PM
To: 'Braillenote List'
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines
This is discouraging to me. Paranoya is driving the production
here and,
I'm
sure, costing tons of money if they are designing an entirely new
and
different media hitherto unbeheld by human hand, SIMPLY for the
supersecret
storage of books for "THE BLIND."
Unless this storage media becomes and industry standard--maybe
they're
working with sandisc or some other maker--this storage card will
quickly
become obselete and, as with parallel ports may not appear on
future
machines, if it ever appears on non nls machines.
It just seems like a lot of trouble, when "protected" books are
already
being created.
We'll all have the privelege of getting yet another machine to
play nls
books. It's a good thing they're going to be free.
Rusty
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Powers,
Terry
(NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] FW: new nls machines
-----Original Message-----
From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:46 AM
To: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
Subject: RE: new nls machines
It's not a kind of card that is compatible with any other machine
at
this
moment. It is a new design. But I'm pretty sure that as the NLS
players
and cartridges go into production, adapters, cables and software
revisions
will become available to make these devices work together. Ask
me the
question again in about 18 or 24 months from now. Books will
become
downloadable at about that time, but the current BrailleNote
software
will
not be able to play the files we are planning to produce. The
average
11-hour book will be about 128 megabytes long. Because they
contain
audio
they are more than a hundred times as big as the comparable
Braille
file.
Don't worry too much about this; the pieces are slowly coming
together.
Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, Maryland
Home: http://lras.home.sprynet.com
Work: http://www.loc.gov/nls
-----Original Message-----
From: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:55 AM
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Subject: new nls machines
Hi Lloyd;
Do you know what kind of card NLS will be putting their books on
with
this new system. Will they work on the Braille Note. If not,
will
they
be downloadable from the site?
Terry
Theresa L. Powers (Terry)
Grants Clerk
Tobacco Control Research Branch
NIH/NCI/DCCPS/BRP/TCRB/DEAS
6130 Executive Blvd, MSC 7337
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