I have been a Braille Note user since January 2001. All I know comes from the onboard user's guide and experimentation. I listened to the tape made with my unit in 2001, but I have not listened to the online tutorials, although I did catch the one about the upcoming 7.2 which I thought was more a demo than a tutorial. When I need help I get it from the BN itself about 98% of the time, maybe 2% of the time I come to the list.
I had no problems with the information presented on the initial tape or in chapter one of the online manual. I did receive a braille manual in 2001, two months after I got the Braille Note itself. I used the command summary occasionally but never used that book for the chapter one info since I had been there on the Braille Note itself. I guess for me at least I don't see a huge need for space-eating oral tutorials when I can use the display or the voice on the BN to read the manual either through the options and user guide option or in the book reader itself. I listened to some of the presentations on 7.0 and I kept wanting to speed up the voice, or say lets get to the point for the most part. However, I do realize others appreciate the pacing. Rose Combs [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ring Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:43 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Confusion about 7.2 You're doing fine insofar as I'm concerned. I suppose what I am attempting to do is to understand how others feel. I have been an off and on Braillenote user since July of 2000, and what I've learned about the product has always come from the users guide and the excellent help system. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:40 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Confusion about 7.2 Hi Richard, this is precisely what Chapter One in the User Guide attempts to do. If we're not succeeding, then this is good feedback. Jonathan Mosen BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager HumanWare 11 Mary Muller Drive Christchurch New Zealand DDI: +64-3-940-2219 http://www.humanware.com "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17/08/2006 06:50 a.m. Please respond to Braillenote List <[email protected]> To "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> cc Subject RE: [Braillenote] Confusion about 7.2 I believe that the problem is that although all of the information is readily available in the users guide that for some, some basic step by step how to information is what is needed. I personally have no problem learning by reading manuals, but for some, that is not the best way to learn. Perhaps a text version of the tutorial that simply lays out some of the basics of Braille noting in a straight forward manner might be helpful to deaf blind individuals. It could be placed on the HumanWare web site, or on the CD that comes with the machine. In fact, it might facilitate learning for those who are not good audio learners but are overwhelmed by manuals. I think the users guide is a great tool for those of us who can easily take advantage of it, but some folks get rather lost in manuals and need a scaled down approach. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:35 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Confusion about 7.2 Hi KC, it is completely unrealistic to expect us to stop producing audio material because Deaf Blind people can't access it. What it is realistic to expect is that we will make the same information available by other means that are accessible to Deaf Blind people, and this is already happening. So I'm at a loss to understand what precisely the problem is. We have no way of knowing when we ship a product that is all boxed up, whether the customer receiving it is Deaf Blind or not. So if the audio material isn't useful, it can be ignored. All the same information is in the User Guide on board the unit. Jonathan Mosen BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager HumanWare 11 Mary Muller Drive Christchurch New Zealand DDI: +64-3-940-2219 http://www.humanware.com kathleen spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/08/2006 10:52 a.m. Please respond to Braillenote List <[email protected]> To Braillenote List <[email protected]> cc Subject RE: [Braillenote] Confusion about 7.2 Hi Jonathan, I don't mean to be difficult. However, I'm on a several Listserves with folks who are deaf-blind. More than a few are Bn users. Perhapsyou should be aware there is a general sense of dismay at the fact HW offers a tutorial on CD rom that is audio only. I mention this, because you indicate here that you are mindful of the needs of consumers who are deaf-blind. 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