There would be no need for putting anything else in any folder.
The manual, including the first chapter, is there, on the unit,
and if you know enough to open the file in the general folder,
you know how to do it in the manual folder. The Braille copy,
and/or the audio CD give you enough to get you started, so you
can access the rest of the information. It is already on the BN,
in the manual. It is also in Braille. As has been stated, and
stated, and restated. Humanware has, in my opinion, done
everything possible to make that first, crucial chapter
available, no matter how you choose to access it. The messaage
from Jonathan, describing the new upgrade, and posted on the
website was neither a training tool, nor a tutorial. It was an
advertisement, pure and simple. He has already said that
Humanware will refrain from such practice in the future, which is
sad from my point of view, because it was entertaining. However,
I have to say that I listened to it in the hopes of learning
something other than what was written to us all on this very
list. In that, I was disappointed. Everything in the advert was
also in the announcement to the list.
If you want something else, I suggest you state, as plainly as
possible, what is missing, but please consider if it might
already be available.
Rachael, climbing down off the soapbox, and timidly knocking on
the rock which Sarah has to let me under, cause I'm her mom!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Bernadette Torcolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:16:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Tutorial
I have to agree with Richard here. I certainly use cf cards
now, but
before the BN, I had never even heard of them. I also think
that, depending
on where HW gets their cf cards, sending a cf card with every BN
might be
expensive. Might it be possible to write whatever information it
is that is
needed in a file in the general folder?
t
Nicole
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Tutorial
Precisely. If you are truly new to the Braille Note, chances are
you
may never have seen a CF card, and you certainly wouldn't know
how to
insert one and find files on it.
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Hi Terry, this would not be a good idea because new customers
wanting to
hear the getting started tutorial may not know how to use data on
a CF
or
SD card.
Jonathan Mosen
BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
HumanWare
11 Mary Muller Drive
Christchurch New Zealand
DDI: +64-3-940-2219
http://www.humanware.com
"Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I prefer CF or SD cards because CDs are quite fragile. Why can't
the
material be put on a CF or SD card instead of a CD?
Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign
AAT9PX,
California
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Tutorial
: Hi KC, an audio CD and a CD ROM are absolutely the same
physically.
The
: difference is in the way that they are formatted. An audio CD
can be
: played in any CD player, a CD Rom can only be used on a
computer. The
: audio CD you are talking about is one of two CDs that ships
with every
: BrailleNote. It used to be a cassette, now it's a CD. The issue
is not
at
: all a financial one for HumanWare, it is a customer focus
issue. Not
all
: BrailleNote users have access to a computer. If we made the
audio CD a
CD
: ROM, then non-PC users would not be able to access the audio
material
at
: all. The approach we are taking now means that Deaf Blind
people and
those
: who prefer text have complete access in hardcopy Braille, on
the other
CD
: which ships with the unit which is indeed a CD ROM, and on
board the
unit
: itself. We even ship it in print, in case someone needs sighted
: assistance, so we've covered all bases. I don't see that anyone
is
being
: disadvantaged here, since the way things are at present,
everyone,
whether
: they have a computer or not, whether they are Deaf Blind or
not, has
: completely equal access to the same information. It's a
physical
: impossibility for us to do all this on one CD.
: Jonathan Mosen
: BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
: HumanWare
:
: 11 Mary Muller Drive
: Christchurch New Zealand
: DDI: +64-3-940-2219
: http://www.humanware.com
:
:
:
: kathleen spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 19/08/2006 04:59 a.m.
: Please respond to
: Braillenote List <[email protected]
:
:
: To
: Braillenote List <[email protected]
: cc
:
: Subject
: RE: [Braillenote] Tutorial
:
:
:
:
:
:
: Jonathan
: No doubt, You will consider me stupid However, I don't know
the
: difference between a CD-Rom disk and a CD disk. IN fact, I
: doubt many who are deaf-blind know either!
:
: More to the point, why did the CD, which consumers
received
: inthe boxes with their M-Power Transplant or new M-Power,
not
: indicate "audio?"
:
: Finally, can you truthfully say that using a CD-Rom Disk as
: oppsed to the CD disk you are now using, would create a
: financial hardship for HW? If not, I don't see the
: justification for your reluctance to include both audio and
: text.
:
: KC
:
: KC
: > ----- Original Message -----
: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
: >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:06:41 +1200
: >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Tutorial
:
: >Hi KC, the audio appears in two places. The first is on an
audio
: CD. This
: >is not a CD rom, but an audio CD, the kind that people put in
any
: standard
: >CD player such as a stereo or portable CD player. In that
sense
: because it
: >isn't a CD ROM, we can't put a text file on that. The second
: place it
: >appears is in MP3 on the KeySoft CD, and the text does already
: appear
: >there. It's also worth noting that not only do you get the
text
: of the
: >audio tutorial on the BrailleNote itself and on the KeySoft
CD,
: but you
: >get the text of the tutorial in hardcopy Braille with every
: BrailleNote,
: >since the audio tutorial uses the text of Chapter One of the
: Users Guide,
: >and this is what you get in hardcopy Braille. So what you are
: asking for,
: >we've done ever since the BrailleNote has been out there. To
: summarise
: >then, Deaf Blind customers can access the text of the getting
: started
: >audio tutorial in three ways. 1, on the KeySoft CD Rom in
various
: formats
: >including Plain Text and PDF. 2, on board the unit in two
ways,
: through
: >the on-line help system and the Book Reader. And 3, in
hardcopy
: Braille.
:
: >Jonathan Mosen
: >BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
: >HumanWare
:
: >11 Mary Muller Drive
: >Christchurch New Zealand
: >DDI: +64-3-940-2219
: >http://www.humanware.com
:
:
:
: >kathleen spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: >18/08/2006 04:48 p.m.
: >Please respond to
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:
: >To
: >Braillenote List <[email protected]
: >cc
:
: >Subject
: >RE: [Braillenote] Tutorial
:
:
:
:
:
:
: >sarah dear heart,
:
: >This is in reference to an audio tutorial which appears on
the
: >CD-Rom in the package received by M-Power Trnaspant and
: >M-Power purchasers who are deaf-blind.
:
: >Yes, we want text, along with audio on that Cd-Rom.
:
: >HTH
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