Hi Rose,
Since you brought up the markup issue, or lack thereof, I'm really curious
about how Bookshare creates the Daisy books and whether the responsible
individuals could be talked into spending more time and giving due
dilligence to real Daisy markup for books. I downloaded one yesterday and
when I looked at the heading list, it looked like this:
Page I
Page II
Page III
Page IV
and so on... then
Page 1
Page 2
Page 3
Page 4
Page 5
Page 6
on up to Page 322.
Needless to say, a list like that really isn't doing anybody any favors, and
it sure doesn't give anyone a clue as to the book's content. I was rather
miffed after seeing a list like that and have been considering getting in
touch with the folks at Bookshare to see if they might be persuaded to adopt
some sort of markup standard.
Tom
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From: "Rose Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY?
Unless you are reading newspapers, most of the Bookshare books say they
are
in DAISY, however, they have not been marked up for daisy. Some of the
O'Reiley books do have at least chapter headings.
Newspapers really work well on the BN and in K1000, however. I gave up on
Victor Reader Bookshare version when I could not get rid of Microsoft Sam.
I don't download Daisy books unless it is my only choice because no one
submitting them has the time to mark the headings for chapters, sections,
paragraphs etc.
Rose Combs
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:07 AM
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Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY?
Hi Kandy, KC and Others,
I'm new to Daisy, as I've subscribed to bookshare. Here's my take on this
subject. I downloaded the VictorSoft Reader, Bookshare version. I've
been
very unhappy with it, as I'm unable to activate headings using either
Window-Eyes or Jaws. I thought it was a problem with VictorSoft, but
perhaps it's the book itself as it's text and even though it's downloaded
in
Daisy format, I wonder if it's truly daisy in the traditional sense of the
term? When I e-mailed support at Bookshare and expressed difficulty in
using their Daisy reader, VictorSoft, I was advised to elect to create an
html document where I could then scroll through headings using either
screen
reader. Of course, bookmarks cannot be set with an html file, but
scrolling
by headings works fine. If a book is narrated, then it's in my view,
truly
a daisy book with the ability to use a daisy reader and navigate through
the
book. I understand that RFB&D is now creating narrated books. The
training
materials I've seen from Freedom Scientific are narrated, (recorded by
them)
and would work well with a daisy reader. Don't know about web braille
from
NLS, hopefully, they are narrated. So for now, I assume the best way to
read daisy books from bookshare on a PC is via html. When I get my BN
mPower back this week, I'll try bookshare books on the BN and see how they
can be navigated.
Les
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kandi
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:27 PM
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Subject: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY?
I don't understand it either. People say that DAISY books are easier to
navigate through, but I don't think that's true. I think they're a pain.
Kandi (spelled with a K and an i)
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I used to have a handle on life, then it broke.
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From: kathleen spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Braillenote List <[email protected] Date sent: Sun, 24
Sep 2006 18:41:09 -0700
Subject: re: [Braillenote] Attention list Moderator
Can someone make sense of this discussion?
I ws told that a "daisy book" meant it was a speech document. Wit
the BN, you can actualy listen to BRF books.
So, why do you need daisy at all on the BN?
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