I don't really find the bookshare daisy books to be very useful.
Many of their books do not contain all of their page breaks,
which makes page numbers inaccurate, and Bookshare also has an
overzealous program that strips headers from pages, and it often
strips chapter headings as a result. A good start toward putting
out books that would be more Daisy Friendly, would be to stop
using the current program to strip headers, as often times the
validators of the books have done this anyway. As far as I know
they're still using it though.
Pam
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From: "Tom Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Date sent: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:42:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY?
Hi Rose,
Since you brought up the markup issue, or lack thereof, I'm
really curious
about how Bookshare creates the Daisy books and whether the
responsible
individuals could be talked into spending more time and giving
due
dilligence to real Daisy markup for books. I downloaded one
yesterday and
when I looked at the heading list, it looked like this:
Page I
Page II
Page III
Page IV
and so on... then
Page 1
Page 2
Page 3
Page 4
Page 5
Page 6
on up to Page 322.
Needless to say, a list like that really isn't doing anybody any
favors, and
it sure doesn't give anyone a clue as to the book's content. I
was rather
miffed after seeing a list like that and have been considering
getting in
touch with the folks at Bookshare to see if they might be
persuaded to adopt
some sort of markup standard.
Tom
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From: "Rose Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY?
Unless you are reading newspapers, most of the Bookshare books
say they
are
in DAISY, however, they have not been marked up for daisy. Some
of the
O'Reiley books do have at least chapter headings.
Newspapers really work well on the BN and in K1000, however. I
gave up on
Victor Reader Bookshare version when I could not get rid of
Microsoft Sam.
I don't download Daisy books unless it is my only choice
because no one
submitting them has the time to mark the headings for chapters,
sections,
paragraphs etc.
Rose Combs
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:07 AM
To: 'Braillenote List'
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY?
Hi Kandy, KC and Others,
I'm new to Daisy, as I've subscribed to bookshare. Here's my
take on this
subject. I downloaded the VictorSoft Reader, Bookshare version.
I've
been
very unhappy with it, as I'm unable to activate headings using
either
Window-Eyes or Jaws. I thought it was a problem with
VictorSoft, but
perhaps it's the book itself as it's text and even though it's
downloaded
in
Daisy format, I wonder if it's truly daisy in the traditional
sense of the
term? When I e-mailed support at Bookshare and expressed
difficulty in
using their Daisy reader, VictorSoft, I was advised to elect to
create an
html document where I could then scroll through headings using
either
screen
reader. Of course, bookmarks cannot be set with an html file,
but
scrolling
by headings works fine. If a book is narrated, then it's in my
view,
truly
a daisy book with the ability to use a daisy reader and navigate
through
the
book. I understand that RFB&D is now creating narrated books.
The
training
materials I've seen from Freedom Scientific are narrated,
(recorded by
them)
and would work well with a daisy reader. Don't know about web
braille
from
NLS, hopefully, they are narrated. So for now, I assume the
best way to
read daisy books from bookshare on a PC is via html. When I get
my BN
mPower back this week, I'll try bookshare books on the BN and
see how they
can be navigated.
Les
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
kandi
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:27 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: [Braillenote] Why do we need DAISY?
I don't understand it either. People say that DAISY books are
easier to
navigate through, but I don't think that's true. I think
they're a pain.
Kandi (spelled with a K and an i)
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I used to have a handle on life, then it broke.
----- Original Message -----
From: kathleen spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Braillenote List <[email protected] Date sent:
Sun, 24
Sep 2006 18:41:09 -0700
Subject: re: [Braillenote] Attention list Moderator
Can someone make sense of this discussion?
I ws told that a "daisy book" meant it was a speech
document. Wit
the BN, you can actualy listen to BRF books.
So, why do you need daisy at all on the BN?
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