That's probably so.  But I was referring to the cable or lead that goes into 
the holes or female serial port.  there was probably a change between the 
braille lite and the braille Lite Millennium models, I having owned both, and 
as the serial socket on the BLM was more standard, such as those to be found on 
the backs of many scanners.  I would assume that that's the type of serial port 
Sharonda was referring to as being available on her PC - a round socket where 
the round end of such a cable would go.  Besides, we are only interested in the 
standard parameters if we're using serial for a braille display.  (It was 
different for other things, of course, such as FDisk, and other arcana.)  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph Lee 
  To: 'Braillenote List' 
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:45 AM
  Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help


  Actyually, the cable that works with the BN (or the connector itself) is
  different between BNS and BN products because: one, the connector itself on
  the 
  BNS is a propriatary connector versus standard 9-pin connector on the BN,
  and second, these two uses different modes of sending and receiving
  information using RS232 protocol (serial connection).

  -----Original Message-----
  >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:25 AM
  To: Braillenote List
  Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help

  I don't know if this is of help; but the Braille Lite line of products had a
  serial cable that would fit the holes in the serial port [of the BL], and
  the pins of the PC.  If I lived near you, I'd give you the cable to try out.
  <smile>

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Sharonda Greenlaw
    To: Braillenote List
    Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 3:26 AM
    Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help


    No. My PC has the same kind as the cord--holes with no pins.
    Thanks.
    Sharonda & Rusty
    my adorable, chocolate Lab
    Phoenix, Arizona

    Read my updated blog at
    blog.myspace.com/special2god

    ----- Original Message -----
    >From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
    Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:07 PM
    Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help


    > Sharondha,
    > Does your computer has the same kind of serial port as your Braillenote?
    > (I'm assuming that you have an mPower) If you do, then the serial cable 
    > that
    > came with your unit will be able to do a pinch here. If not, then we
  have 
    > to
    > discuss more options.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharonda
    > Greenlaw
    > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:00 PM
    > To: Braillenote List
    > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >
    > Joseph,
    > I know this sounds weird. But I need the socket with pins to go into my
    > computer. So, I have both a 9 and 25 port that need the socket with pins

    > to
    > go into it. What do I do?
    > Sharonda & Rusty
    > my adorable, chocolate Lab
    > Phoenix, Arizona
    >
    > Read my updated blog at
    > blog.myspace.com/special2god
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    > To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
    > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:57 PM
    > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >
    >
    >> Sharondha,
    >> A male plug is the socket with pins, where as a female plug is the
  socket
    >> with holes. If we assume that you have one VGA (a female socket that 
    >> looks
    >> like a serial port), a parallel port (the famous port), and the regular
    >> serial port (male socket), then you might want to connect the serial 
    >> cable
    >> that came with your unit into the male socket, and connect the other
  end
    >> to
    >> the serial port on your unit.
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharonda
    >> Greenlaw
    >> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:50 PM
    >> To: Braillenote List
    >> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >>
    >> Joseph,
    >> Thanks for getting me straight. Smile.
    >>
    >> Well I need a male side to go into my computer because both the ports
  on
    >> my
    >> PC are female. Do they make such an adapter?
    >>
    >> Or with this USB converter, do you think my BN will work as a Braille
    >> display? Thanks for all help.
    >>
    >> Sharonda & Rusty
    >> my adorable, chocolate Lab
    >> Phoenix, Arizona
    >>
    >> Read my updated blog at
    >> blog.myspace.com/special2god
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    >> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
    >> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:40 PM
    >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >>
    >>
    >>> Sharondha,
    >>> The serial port on your unit must be a male plug, and the other end
  must
    >>> be
    >>> male as well. The port that is female on the PC end, but it has same
    >>> appearance as serial port, is the VGA monitor port. The serial cable 
    >>> that
    >>> came with your unit is a female cable, where it has female plugs on
  both
    >>> ends. Somebody also mentioned a USB to RS232 (serial) adapter a few
  days
    >>> ago
    >>> (I've forgot about it).
    >>>
    >>> -----Original Message-----
    >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharonda
    >>> Greenlaw
    >>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:33 PM
    >>> To: Braillenote List
    >>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >>>
    >>> Setting up the Braille display (Terminal for Screen Readers) is in 2.9

    >>> of
    >>> the manual. I am very aware how to set it up. However, my question has

    >>> to
    >>> do
    >>> with the serial adapter and/or converting serial to USB and the
  display
    >>> still working. This is not covered, as far as I can see. Thanks for
  all
    >>> help.
    >>>
    >>> Sharonda & Rusty
    >>> my adorable, chocolate Lab
    >>> Phoenix, Arizona
    >>>
    >>> Read my updated blog at
    >>> blog.myspace.com/special2god
    >>>
    >>> ----- Original Message -----
    >>> From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    >>> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
    >>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:27 PM
    >>> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Brendon, Sharondha, and others,
    >>>> Brendon, just for your information: before we use any software or
    >>>> hardware,
    >>>> we ned to configure to meet our demands. At this situaiton, if you
  are
    >>>> using
    >>>> a screen reader, you need to tell the screen reader (there should be
  a
    >>>> place
    >>>> to do it) that you want the screen reader to output the display to
  your
    >>>> BrailleNote. And then you connect the cable, and you tell the
    >>>> BrailleNote
    >>>> that you wish to go to terminal for screen reader.
    >>>>
    >>>> -----Original Message-----
    >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon
    >>>> armstrong
    >>>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:08 PM
    >>>> To: Braillenote List
    >>>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >>>>
    >>>> I don't know the answer to your question but have you tried just 
    >>>> hooking
    >>>> your bn up to the pc its self?
    >>>> Brandon
    >>>> ----- Original Message -----
    >>>> From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    >>>> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
    >>>> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:57 PM
    >>>> Subject: [Braillenote] Braille Display Help
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi all,
    >>>> I want to use my BN as a braille display for my computer. I have so
    >>>> questions.
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. My Serial port on my computer is a male, like the one on the BN.
  Is
    >>>> there
    >>>> such a thing to change the cord that came with the BN to work with a
  25
    >>>> female serial port? (If I'm wrong about male/female, let me know) 2.
    >>>> Could
    >>>
    >>>> I
    >>>> buy a serial to USB converter and my BN work as a braille display?
    >>>> 3. If so, what kind should I look for?
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks for writing back with all help.
    >>>> Take care,
    >>>> Sharonda & Rusty
    >>>> my adorable, chocolate Lab
    >>>> Phoenix, Arizona
    >>>>
    >>>> Read my updated blog at
    >>>> blog.myspace.com/special2god
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