What slot do you use for the wireless card? If you can use the slot on the right, you might be able to get an extra adapter and just leave it in the adapter. They should be easier to remove than a regular cf or sd card. With an extra adapter, you can use the right slot for other purposes when you are not using wireless. Just a thought. You might want to go to your vendor and test it out. Terry Powers
-----Original Message----- From: Alex Parks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:46 PM To: Chris Hallsworth; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Data loss I see no problems, except that it will drain your battery faster than if it were out (even if the unit is turned off). Leaving it in should not harm any firmware on the card. Have a great day, Alex > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Hallsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected] >Date sent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 20:41:44 +0100 >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Data loss >Is it safe to leave the wireless card I'll be receiving in my mPower? I wish >to do this due to my physical disabilities, and I fear I may have >difficulties inserting the wireless card once I take it out. Thanks! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ><[email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:05 PM >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Data loss >Because fairness is essential, I can tell you that I know three people >personally who have had entire compact flash cards rendered useless by a >Braillenote. The advice that HumanWare furnishes is that you should >never leave a compact flash card in your unit while you are performing >any kind of reset. >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donna >Goodin >Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 5:57 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[email protected] >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Data loss >Hi Cindy, >What you report surprises me. I use that product and have absolutely >never lost data from a Flash card. Regarding your other concern, yes, >they do provide Sprite Backup, it came on your program CD. >Best, >Donna >-----Original Message----- >>From: "slery"<[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: 8/7/07 11:30:52 PM >>To: "project1"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donna >Goodin"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<christopherhallsworth71@ googlem >ail.com>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >"[email protected]"<[email protected] >>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Data loss >>Do others really have this chronic problem with losing data? I have >only >>occasionally (4 or 5 times) lost data. This could not be said of the >>competitions product which killed information that was on removable >cards. >>Also, the only answer the competition gives is to use sprite backup >utility >>so you can boot from the backup. This product was not (and still not >to my >>knowledge) provided to the customer. It was something I had to >purchase >>even though it was their answer for a bug fix. >>Personally, I have not heard of this great number of people losing >great >>numbers of data but would definitely be interested in how many actually >do >>have this problem. >>Cindy >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of project1 >>Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:30 PM >>To: Donna Goodin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] >>Subject: re: [Braillenote] Data loss >>Wait just a minute here. I think it's extremely premature to >>start jumping to conclusions. Yes, I'll agree that it's most >>unfortunate whenever one loses valuable data, but to take it a >>step further and suggest that this is a chronic problem with the >>BN family of products is just plain uncalled for. I for one have >>yet to come across a situation involving my voicenote wherein I >>have inexplicably lost data. I have owned my current unit for a >>little more than a year now, and my previous unit I had since >>2003. As distasteful as some of you may find my proposition, I >>suggest that we resist the urge to make the assertion that this >>is a chronic problem with the BN, and likewise refrain from >>suggesting to those that perhaps were thinking of purchasing a >>braillenote or voicenote that they should think twice before >>doing so. While I feel for those persons that have experienced >>the aforementioned problem, I will say to those of you that are >>considering purchasing one of these units, that I personally have >>never experienced the previously referenced problem, and I >>encourage you not to decide against the BN predicated upon the >>unfortunate experiences of a select few. Just my opinion. Isaih >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Donna Goodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected] >>>Date sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 07:28:07 -0400 >>>Subject: [Braillenote] Data loss >>>Hi Chris, Mary, and all, >>>Actually, Chris, I have to strongly disagree. though what you >>say about PCs is true, that happense *very rarely. If the BN >>frequently loses data, especially if there's been no crash of the >>device, that is an unacceptable flaw. If you can't mostly rely >>on your device to preserve data, why bother owning it in the >>first place. >>>I currently use a competitor's product--the one that came out in >>fall of 2003. I can't say I *never lose data, but if I do, it's >>because the unit has locked up and a cold reset must be >>performed, so I know that any data that hasn't been backed up is >>lost. I'm on this list because I was considering purchasing a >>BN. If what Mary Ellen describes is a pervasive problem with >>these units, I think that just took the BN right off the table >>for me. I'll tolerate lots of bugs in a product, but data loss >>is definitely not one of them. >>>Best, >>>Donna >>>P.S. I also you Sprite Backup with my current unit. I know the >>BN has some kind of backup feature, at least I think it does. It >>would be a good thing if that program could allow you to back up >>your data to a storage card. >>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: "Chris Hallsworth"<[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Sent: 8/7/07 5:01:28 AM >>>>To: "Mary Ellen Earls"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Braillenote >>List"<[email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Comments: >>>>Mary, sorry to hear you've lost your document, but consider this. >>Sometimes >>>>computers can have glitches, one of which is to lose work that >>you thought >>>>you last saved. There are a handful of reasons why this would be >>the case, >>>>power failure being one of them. So I guess it's the same with >>the >>>>BrailleNote; the operating system, Windows CE/Keysoft, must have >>glitches in >>>>them that occur from time to time, and one of these is to erase a >>whole >>>>document despite you saved it. So my advice? Consider backing up >>the >>>>document to some removable device, so that should you lose it >>you've always >>>>got a backup. Also Mary, did this issue happen on a classic or >>an mPower? As >>>>I say I am sorry to hear what's happened, but it's just one of >>these things >>>>and therefore I hope from this message you'll take my advice and >>hopefully >>>>never lose a document again. I hope this helps. >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Mary Ellen Earls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:39 AM >>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Comments: >>>>> Well let me first say that I hope somewhere along the line >>Humanware will >>>>> start addressing the issue of these machines loosing huge >>amounts of >>>>> material. I am even talking about material which has >>specifically been >>>>> saved and the machine just kicks it out. The strange thing is >>that the >>>>> document is still there but absolutely no text is there. It is >>like >>>>> someone went in went to the top of the document and on a bt >>pressed space >>>>> d and space dots 1 4 and the whole document disappeared To me >>that is more >>>>> important than anything because I lost 28 pages today never to >>recover >>>>> them again. I even tried the save and recover feature to no >>avail. >>>>> This has been a problem with the Braille Note since I have had >>one in >>>>> 2002. >>>>> And I am extremely surprised this has not come up more often but >>it has >>>>> not. >>>>> Secondly as far as batteries are concerned, if some of you will >>remember >>>>> Fs came out in about 2003 or very early 2004 with a pacmate >>Braille & >>>>> Speak which had a user replacible battery. Ok they went back >>and did a >>>>> total makeover of the machine which came out in the fall of 2004 >>and guess >>>>> what? The battery was not user replacible. Why? Because there >>had been >>>>> numerous problems with the earlier model of the pacmate Bns >>because of >>>>> that user replacible batteries. >>>>> I have no doubt technology has come a long way since then and I >>too would >>>>> love to change my battery out but we have to realize hw can only >>pack so >>>>> much in an upgrade at any given time and they have only so many >>people in >>>>> development. >>>>> In a perfect world there would be that one perfect machine with >>everything >>>>> for everyone but alas, this is 2007 the world is not a perfect >>world and >>>>> now you have myriads of machines out there to choose from, so >>you do not >>>>> like the features of one machine, go to its competitor and >>perhaps you >>>>> will find what you want from them. >>>>> Mary Ellen Earls >>>>> ___ >>>>> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>> copy to the list as well. >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>>copy to the list as well. >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>copy to the list as well. >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>copy to the list as well. >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >copy to the list as well. >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >copy to the list as well. >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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