Hi, Sorry about that... For our new friends: BrailleNote PBWorks is a resource that I have created for new and existing BrailleNote users. It hosts numerous articles on BN that I've wrote, as well as archives of audio chats and so on. The URL (website address) is braillenote.pbworks.com. For our old folks: Yes, PBWiki has renamed the site to PBWorks since May 2009. And, sorry about version number: it is not 6.0 - it's 5.0. I'm modifying the webpage in question as of right now (to include numerous points raised on this list, including Word 2007 support and integrating announcement information on KeySoft 8.0). As of BrailleNote PBWorks 5.0 , some of the newly planned articles include: * What is IM (instant messaging). * What exactly is XMPP (Extensive Messaging and Presentation Protocol). * How to configure Google Talk connection (based on web searches). * What is WPA (WiFi Protected Access; mPower only). * Word 2007 compatibility (answer is no support for it under BraileNote). * What is virtual memory and how it works (somewhat complicated, so need some easy examples and your help on this topic). And so forth. I welcome your suggestions as to what other information and articles to upload. Cheers, Joseph
-----Original Message----- From: Sean Terry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:29 PM To: Joseph Lee; 'Maurice Sloane'; [email protected]; 'Alex Hall'; [email protected] Subject: Re: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8Thread: Dominic Galliano hi, what is the Braille note PBWorks 6.0? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:19 PM To: "'Maurice Sloane'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "'Alex Hall'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: RE: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8Thread:DominicGagliano > Hi Nicole, Maurice and list, > Here's my take on this: Maurice's words are understandable due to busy > schedule (from what I understand). Also, if moderators interfere more > often, > the good side is that the company can show concerns; but another point of > view is that, by allowing users to post more than moderators do, users > themselves will learn from each other, which has happened on this list > frequently. We have "experts" who deserve mentioning, including would-be > programmers, technology experts, enthusiasts and people who have many > years > experience with BrailleNote family. These folks provide useful information > (up to a point where a product suggestion or ways of solving a problem was > discovered through this list - fixing download issue in 2006). Thus, > although moderator intervension (for some posts) would be useful, for the > most of the time, users learn and help each other, thus negating > intervension from HW staff for the most of the time (in my opinion based > on > experiences). >>From statistics, when a "critical" or future of a product ws mentioned, it > tends to increase anxiety level of the list members (which this KS8 thread > has done)... > On another note: I'll post a Beta version of BrailleNote PBWorks 6.0 today > (you'll see sweeping changes underway for that site tonight). I'll > announce > Beta version for information testing when I've finished working on it (to > make sure that the information that the public will access is in par with > KS8 announcement.). > Cheers, > Joseph > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maurice > Sloane > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:46 PM > To: [email protected]; Alex Hall; [email protected] > Subject: RE: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: > Dominic Gagliano > > I'm a very quite Moderator Nicole! Experience has shown me that the > more you interfere with nature the more pain you cause. I and several > other HumanWare staff receive either individual posts or daily digests > from the list. > > Regards > > Maurice > > ________________ > > Maurice Sloane > HumanWare NZ > > Phone: +64 3 384 4555 > Direct Dial +64 3 940 2223 > Mobile: +64 21 528 374 > Email: [email protected] > Website: www.humanware.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nicole B. Torcolini [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, 13 July 2009 9:03 a.m. > To: [email protected]; 'Alex Hall'; Maurice Sloane; > [email protected] > Subject: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: > Dominic Gagliano > > While we seem to have hw's attention, I would like to know > whether > or not hw monitors the list. The two reasons that I have for thinking > that > they do not are that they seem to not know about the complaints that > have > posted to this list and certain posts that I thought would have > attracted > the attention of the moderator seem to have gone completely unnoticed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicole B. > Torcolini > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:39 AM > To: 'Alex Hall'; 'Maurice Sloane'; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: Dominic Gagliano > > I agree, too. As far as not talking about new features, unless > hw > has some kind of mega plan about which they are not sharing information, > its > track record makes it seem as though it has nothing that another company > does not already have. I am also particularly frustrated with hw's > refusal > to give information on the two biggest questions: word support and an OS > upgrade. All that said, though, I do love my bn, particularly since ks > seems to be very robust; none of the times that I sent in my unit were > caused by software crashes but rather for other things. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:51 PM > To: Maurice Sloane; [email protected] > Subject: re: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: Dominic Gagliano > > I agree 110 percent with Peggy's message! Like her, I mainly get annoyed > with HW when there is an apparent blackout of messages, unless it is a > message promising yet another release date that is then missed. A > message > every month or two, both regarding ks8 and as we move beyond it, would > be > great. Just something like "We are in final beta and have not found > anything major, should be a couple months, but no promises" > or > "We are closing feature requests for the next keysoft release and > beginning > the coding stage; still send us your feature requests and bug reports, > though." > or > "Coding is going well and we expect alpha testing to end any week now. > As > always, no timelines will be given, but we expect to start with beta > testing > in no more than ten weeks". > > You get the idea. I hate to bring up competition, but GWM has three or > four > of its staff actively posting on its notetaker support list (its > equivalent > to this bn list) and, as new software comes available, it beta tests > that > new update with anyone that wants to risk trying it. In this way, the > random sequence of events that causes a crash is much more likely to be > found since the testing pool is much larger than a select group. > For example, I was using Spanish computer braille for a long time, and > so > was the only one to find a bug in Sendero GPS since I was using such a > strange Braille code. Had that software been a public beta, that bug > would > not have made it into the final release. I know hw always says that it > never releases features until just before the update so that competition > cannot jump on the ideas and get a head start, but this logic does not > really make sense. If you like your unit, then you will continue to use > it > instead of spending thousands of dollars just to switch to another unit > that > beat yours to the punch and got an instant messenger first. I have my > bn, > and I am mostly satisfied with it. I will not switch to a Pac Mate > because > FS sees that hw is going to include, say, an rss reader and so fs puts > one > in the PM first. I hope this makes sense. > > Again, thank you for the update, and please keep them coming!! > > Have a great day, > Alex > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Maurice Sloane" <[email protected] >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] Date sent: Sat, >>11 Jul 2009 23:14:55 -0400 >>Subject: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: Dominic Gagliano > >>I'm forwarding the following message from Peggy which is in reply > to >>Dominic's earlier post concerning KeySoft 8. > > > >>If others wish to comment on this thread please use my message > when >>replying and NOT Dominic's original message. The reason for this > is >>that the total size of Dominic's original message is close to > exceeding >>the limit accepted by the list mailing system. This was caused > by the >>fact that Dominic included the list digest as part of his > message. > > > >>If you reply to Dominic's original message the messages will be >>discarded by the mail list. > > > >>Thanks > > > >>Maurice Sloane > >>HumanWare > > > >>Thanks for the update, Dominic. I think the frustration, for me > at >>least, > >>is not so much the delay, but the total silence on HumanWare's > part. >>I'd > >>rather hear more frequent "we're still testing and fine tuning" > updates >>than > >>dead silence. It seems like HumanWare only responds when 456 > people >>start > >>grumbling and saying we're frustrated, and then we get a message > like >>yours. > >>I would rather have a message like yours posted on its own, and > not as a > > >>response to a bunch of people feeling frustrated. Just > expressing my > >>feelings and giving feedback, and in no way meaning this as an > attack. > > > >>Peggy <who loves her BrailleNote, but is very disappointed at the > total > >>silence of Humanware about anything BrailleNote-related > >>http://kernsac.livejournal.com > > > >>http://facebook.com/kernsac > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Dominic Gagliano" <[email protected] > >>To: <[email protected] > >>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:33 AM > >>Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft 8 update > > > > > > > >>I read that everyone is anxious to know the status and also read > a lot > >>of frustrations. KeySoft 8 is in its final beta testing and > being > >>prepared for release very, soon. There is a risk in providing an > exact > >>release date if the software is not completely tested and our > only > >>position is to meet due dates which has happened in the past. We > now > >>insist that we follow thru on the complete testing process and > release > >>once R&D have given approval. > > > >>There is a good deal of speculation on features for KeySoft 8. > These > >>have already been established and posted on this list as well as > our > >>website. This upgrade will not include an upgrade to Windows CE. > > > >>http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/about_us/press_releases/2009_pres > s_relea > >>ses/unveiling_keysoft_8 > > > >>SMA's provide for two future upgrades without any specific time > frame. > >>If you prefer to not invest in future upgrades, then you can > purchase > >>single upgrades at additional cost. SMA purchases help fund the > cost for > >>engineering to produce software upgrades. > > > >>I thank those on the list that have been patient and have > attempted to > >>explain to those others that in the end we all want a stable > reliable > >>release. > > > >>Dominic Gagliano > >>Vice President of Blindness Sales > >>HumanWare, Inc > >>800-722-3393 Ext 258 > >>Direct: 312-432-1147 > >>FAX: 312-226-6127 > >>[email protected] > > > >>___ >>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>copy to the list as well. > >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[email protected] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: 07/11/09 > 17:56:00 > > > ___ > Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. > If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a > copy to the list as well. > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [email protected] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: 07/11/09 17:56:00 ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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