Hi, No, it is a website. -----Original Message----- From: Sean Terry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:56 PM To: Joseph Lee; 'Maurice Sloane'; [email protected]; 'Alex Hall'; [email protected] Subject: Re: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braille note] Keysoft 8Thread: Dominic Galliano
hi, is this pbworks some ting that can be installed on the Braille note, or what? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:50 PM To: "'Sean Terry'" <[email protected]>; "'Maurice Sloane'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "'Alex Hall'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: RE: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8Thread:DominicGalliano > Hi, > Sorry about that... > For our new friends: BrailleNote PBWorks is a resource that I have created > for new and existing BrailleNote users. It hosts numerous articles on BN > that I've wrote, as well as archives of audio chats and so on. The URL > (website address) is braillenote.pbworks.com. > For our old folks: Yes, PBWiki has renamed the site to PBWorks since May > 2009. And, sorry about version number: it is not 6.0 - it's 5.0. I'm > modifying the webpage in question as of right now (to include numerous > points raised on this list, including Word 2007 support and integrating > announcement information on KeySoft 8.0). > As of BrailleNote PBWorks 5.0 , some of the newly planned articles > include: > * What is IM (instant messaging). > * What exactly is XMPP (Extensive Messaging and Presentation Protocol). > * How to configure Google Talk connection (based on web searches). > * What is WPA (WiFi Protected Access; mPower only). > * Word 2007 compatibility (answer is no support for it under BraileNote). > * What is virtual memory and how it works (somewhat complicated, so need > some easy examples and your help on this topic). > And so forth. I welcome your suggestions as to what other information and > articles to upload. > Cheers, > Joseph > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Terry [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:29 PM > To: Joseph Lee; 'Maurice Sloane'; [email protected]; 'Alex Hall'; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8Thread: > Dominic Galliano > > hi, what is the Braille note PBWorks 6.0? > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:19 PM > To: "'Maurice Sloane'" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; "'Alex Hall'" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft > 8Thread:DominicGagliano > >> Hi Nicole, Maurice and list, >> Here's my take on this: Maurice's words are understandable due to busy >> schedule (from what I understand). Also, if moderators interfere more >> often, >> the good side is that the company can show concerns; but another point of >> view is that, by allowing users to post more than moderators do, users >> themselves will learn from each other, which has happened on this list >> frequently. We have "experts" who deserve mentioning, including would-be >> programmers, technology experts, enthusiasts and people who have many >> years >> experience with BrailleNote family. These folks provide useful >> information >> (up to a point where a product suggestion or ways of solving a problem >> was >> discovered through this list - fixing download issue in 2006). Thus, >> although moderator intervension (for some posts) would be useful, for the >> most of the time, users learn and help each other, thus negating >> intervension from HW staff for the most of the time (in my opinion based >> on >> experiences). >>>From statistics, when a "critical" or future of a product ws mentioned, >>>it >> tends to increase anxiety level of the list members (which this KS8 >> thread >> has done)... >> On another note: I'll post a Beta version of BrailleNote PBWorks 6.0 >> today >> (you'll see sweeping changes underway for that site tonight). I'll >> announce >> Beta version for information testing when I've finished working on it (to >> make sure that the information that the public will access is in par with >> KS8 announcement.). >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maurice >> Sloane >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:46 PM >> To: [email protected]; Alex Hall; [email protected] >> Subject: RE: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: >> Dominic Gagliano >> >> I'm a very quite Moderator Nicole! Experience has shown me that the >> more you interfere with nature the more pain you cause. I and several >> other HumanWare staff receive either individual posts or daily digests >> from the list. >> >> Regards >> >> Maurice >> >> ________________ >> >> Maurice Sloane >> HumanWare NZ >> >> Phone: +64 3 384 4555 >> Direct Dial +64 3 940 2223 >> Mobile: +64 21 528 374 >> Email: [email protected] >> Website: www.humanware.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Nicole B. Torcolini [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, 13 July 2009 9:03 a.m. >> To: [email protected]; 'Alex Hall'; Maurice Sloane; >> [email protected] >> Subject: HW Monitor the List? was RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: >> Dominic Gagliano >> >> While we seem to have hw's attention, I would like to know >> whether >> or not hw monitors the list. The two reasons that I have for thinking >> that >> they do not are that they seem to not know about the complaints that >> have >> posted to this list and certain posts that I thought would have >> attracted >> the attention of the moderator seem to have gone completely unnoticed. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicole B. >> Torcolini >> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:39 AM >> To: 'Alex Hall'; 'Maurice Sloane'; [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: Dominic Gagliano >> >> I agree, too. As far as not talking about new features, unless >> hw >> has some kind of mega plan about which they are not sharing information, >> its >> track record makes it seem as though it has nothing that another company >> does not already have. I am also particularly frustrated with hw's >> refusal >> to give information on the two biggest questions: word support and an OS >> upgrade. All that said, though, I do love my bn, particularly since ks >> seems to be very robust; none of the times that I sent in my unit were >> caused by software crashes but rather for other things. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:51 PM >> To: Maurice Sloane; [email protected] >> Subject: re: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: Dominic Gagliano >> >> I agree 110 percent with Peggy's message! Like her, I mainly get annoyed >> with HW when there is an apparent blackout of messages, unless it is a >> message promising yet another release date that is then missed. A >> message >> every month or two, both regarding ks8 and as we move beyond it, would >> be >> great. Just something like "We are in final beta and have not found >> anything major, should be a couple months, but no promises" >> or >> "We are closing feature requests for the next keysoft release and >> beginning >> the coding stage; still send us your feature requests and bug reports, >> though." >> or >> "Coding is going well and we expect alpha testing to end any week now. >> As >> always, no timelines will be given, but we expect to start with beta >> testing >> in no more than ten weeks". >> >> You get the idea. I hate to bring up competition, but GWM has three or >> four >> of its staff actively posting on its notetaker support list (its >> equivalent >> to this bn list) and, as new software comes available, it beta tests >> that >> new update with anyone that wants to risk trying it. In this way, the >> random sequence of events that causes a crash is much more likely to be >> found since the testing pool is much larger than a select group. >> For example, I was using Spanish computer braille for a long time, and >> so >> was the only one to find a bug in Sendero GPS since I was using such a >> strange Braille code. Had that software been a public beta, that bug >> would >> not have made it into the final release. I know hw always says that it >> never releases features until just before the update so that competition >> cannot jump on the ideas and get a head start, but this logic does not >> really make sense. If you like your unit, then you will continue to use >> it >> instead of spending thousands of dollars just to switch to another unit >> that >> beat yours to the punch and got an instant messenger first. I have my >> bn, >> and I am mostly satisfied with it. I will not switch to a Pac Mate >> because >> FS sees that hw is going to include, say, an rss reader and so fs puts >> one >> in the PM first. I hope this makes sense. >> >> Again, thank you for the update, and please keep them coming!! >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Maurice Sloane" <[email protected] >>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] Date sent: Sat, >>>11 Jul 2009 23:14:55 -0400 >>>Subject: [Braillenote] Keysoft 8 Thread: Dominic Gagliano >> >>>I'm forwarding the following message from Peggy which is in reply >> to >>>Dominic's earlier post concerning KeySoft 8. >> >> >> >>>If others wish to comment on this thread please use my message >> when >>>replying and NOT Dominic's original message. The reason for this >> is >>>that the total size of Dominic's original message is close to >> exceeding >>>the limit accepted by the list mailing system. This was caused >> by the >>>fact that Dominic included the list digest as part of his >> message. >> >> >> >>>If you reply to Dominic's original message the messages will be >>>discarded by the mail list. >> >> >> >>>Thanks >> >> >> >>>Maurice Sloane >> >>>HumanWare >> >> >> >>>Thanks for the update, Dominic. I think the frustration, for me >> at >>>least, >> >>>is not so much the delay, but the total silence on HumanWare's >> part. >>>I'd >> >>>rather hear more frequent "we're still testing and fine tuning" >> updates >>>than >> >>>dead silence. It seems like HumanWare only responds when 456 >> people >>>start >> >>>grumbling and saying we're frustrated, and then we get a message >> like >>>yours. >> >>>I would rather have a message like yours posted on its own, and >> not as a >> >> >>>response to a bunch of people feeling frustrated. Just >> expressing my >> >>>feelings and giving feedback, and in no way meaning this as an >> attack. >> >> >> >>>Peggy <who loves her BrailleNote, but is very disappointed at the >> total >> >>>silence of Humanware about anything BrailleNote-related >> >>>http://kernsac.livejournal.com >> >> >> >>>http://facebook.com/kernsac >> >> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >>>From: "Dominic Gagliano" <[email protected] >> >>>To: <[email protected] >> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:33 AM >> >>>Subject: [Braillenote] KeySoft 8 update >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I read that everyone is anxious to know the status and also read >> a lot >> >>>of frustrations. KeySoft 8 is in its final beta testing and >> being >> >>>prepared for release very, soon. There is a risk in providing an >> exact >> >>>release date if the software is not completely tested and our >> only >> >>>position is to meet due dates which has happened in the past. We >> now >> >>>insist that we follow thru on the complete testing process and >> release >> >>>once R&D have given approval. >> >> >> >>>There is a good deal of speculation on features for KeySoft 8. >> These >> >>>have already been established and posted on this list as well as >> our >> >>>website. This upgrade will not include an upgrade to Windows CE. >> >> >> >>>http://www.humanware.com/en-usa/about_us/press_releases/2009_pres >> s_relea >> >>>ses/unveiling_keysoft_8 >> >> >> >>>SMA's provide for two future upgrades without any specific time >> frame. >> >>>If you prefer to not invest in future upgrades, then you can >> purchase >> >>>single upgrades at additional cost. SMA purchases help fund the >> cost for >> >>>engineering to produce software upgrades. >> >> >> >>>I thank those on the list that have been patient and have >> attempted to >> >>>explain to those others that in the end we all want a stable >> reliable >> >>>release. >> >> >> >>>Dominic Gagliano >> >>>Vice President of Blindness Sales >> >>>HumanWare, Inc >> >>>800-722-3393 Ext 258 >> >>>Direct: 312-432-1147 >> >>>FAX: 312-226-6127 >> >>>[email protected] >> >> >> >>>___ >>>Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >>>If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >>>copy to the list as well. >> >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[email protected] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: >> 07/11/09 >> 17:56:00 >> >> >> ___ >> Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. >> If your reply would be useful to the list, please send a >> copy to the list as well. >> >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [email protected] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: 07/11/09 > 17:56:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.11/2232 - Release Date: 07/11/09 17:56:00 ___ Replies to this message will go directly to the sender. 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