I'm not sure about this, but since the system puts those line breaks there, why 
not leave it be and add something? Most control caracters are in invisible in 
print.  Just a thought.

Brenda Mueller


> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Paul Henrichsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 14:37:39 -0800
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks

>Hi, Terri. Thanks for the suggestions. I will bet that whoever put this on
>Gutenberg just put it up there as it would appear in print. I'll bet that
>is why the verses have colons between chapter and verse number.
>I forgot about that find next command.
>So many things to learn<grin>.
>My family laughingly calls it dad's toy.
>At 1/2/2004, you wrote:

>>The "find next" command is read with n.

>>In literary grade 2 braille, the correct way to write biblical  references
>>is the write the chapter number followed by a number sign then the verse
>>number, example: John 3#16.  To get the BN to read this in perfect grade 2
>>braille, replace all the colons with number signs.

>>I'm generally not a stickler, but I hate seeing biblical references written
>>in incorrect braille, especially when a blind person does it.  Sighted
>>people don't know any better, but blind people who read braille do know
>>better.

>>I hope your Bible is divided into the 66 books.  The BN doesn't like large
>>files.

>>Terri, Amateur radio call sign KF6CA.  Army MARS call sign AAT9PX,
>>California
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:21 PM
>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks


>>> Hi, Terry. The bible I downloaded from project gutenberg doesn't have
>>> chapter headings. What they do is have a title like the gospel according
>>to
>>> saint matthew. Then they start with one colon one. When they get to
>>chapter
>>> two, it just starts with a new paragraph then 2 colon one ect.
>>> I could find a book, say luke, then do another search for a verse or just
>>a
>>> chapter by putting in the number and a colon like five colon.
>>> I am writing this out since I don't know how your speech would pick things
>>> up if I just put 2:.
>>> I could also add in, myself the word chapter followed by the numbers for
>>> each chapter.
>>> I need to look up on the documentation to see if there is a find next
>>> function in the bn qt.
>>> At 12/31/2003, you wrote:

>>>>Here is another idea. Could you just search for the word chapter?
>>>>Terry Powers


>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Paul Henrichsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:27 PM
>>>>To: Braillenote List
>>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks


>>>>Hi. That's what I am doing, putting a hard line break inbetween each
>>verse
>>>>and two in between each chapter. However, sometimes, some verses might
>>have
>>>>one or two soft line breaks in them. If you use read I or O, it might hit
>>>>one of those soft line breaks rather than just tump to the hard line
>>break.
>>>>The read 7 and 9 work great for umping between chapters.
>>>>At 12/30/2003, you wrote:

>>>>>Why not let each verse be a sentence by placing one hard return between
>>>>>each verse.  Then put two between each chapter.  Terri already posted
>>on
>>>>>how to change the bn to sentence mode, so I won't repeat it.  Hope this
>>>>>helps.  I suppose the other thing you could do is make the pages really
>>>>>long and put a new page marker between each chapter.  I wouldn't do
>>that if
>>>>>you ever want to print from that file though.  Hope that helps or at
>>least
>>>>>gives you some ideas.


>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From:   Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Sent:   Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:54 AM
>>>>>To:     Braillenote List
>>>>>Subject:        RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks

>>>>>Hi, Londa. I see what you mean. I was thinking, though, of using the
>>>>>paragraphs for chapters and the single lines for versus. If I use
>>>>>paragraphs or double returns for verses, I won't have anything to use
>>to
>>>>>jump by chapter.
>>>>>At 12/29/2003, you wrote:

>>>>>>Hi Paul,

>>>>>>You can do this.  I have a Bible that is set up this way.  The read
>>with
>>>>u
>>>>>>and o see a paragraph as two hard returns.  Basically, you would need
>>to
>>>>>>press enter twice between each verse.  It might be better to use a
>>>>keyword
>>>>>>document.  Then you won't have the problem of importing.  If you want
>>to
>>>>>>just hit enter once, you can, but you have to tell the bn what your
>>>>>>paragraph boundary is.  I can't remember how to do that off the top
>>of my
>>>>>>head, but I can find it again easily enough if that's what you want.
>>You
>>>>>>can also set the previous and next thumb-keys to scroll by paragraph.
>>>>>  From
>>>>>>any document, go to the options menu with function with O.  Press B
>>for
>>>>>>Braille display options.  Space through the list until you hear,
>>>>"function
>>>>>>of previous and next thumb-keys?" It will then say what the current
>>>>>setting
>>>>>>is.  Press P for paragraph.  I often find that faster for looking
>>through
>>>>>>the Bible quickly.  Hope this helps.



>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From:   Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>Sent:   Friday, December 26, 2003 12:58 PM
>>>>>>To:     Braillenote List
>>>>>>Subject:        Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks

>>>>>>Hi. What I am trying to do is to work with setting up the old
>>testament.
>>>>>>What I want to do is to use read u and read o to jump by verse. This
>>>>works
>>>>>>unless there are line breaks in the text. If there are, read u and o
>>jump
>>>>>>to those line breaks. Where I should be able to jump between, say,
>>verse
>>>>>>nine and ten in a chapter, it jumps to those line breaks instead of
>>>>>jumping
>>>>>>directly to verse ten.
>>>>>>I thought that I might be able to fix things so read u and o would
>>just
>>>>>>jump from one verse to the next.
>>>>>>At 12/25/2003, you wrote:

>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>The BrailleNote automatically inserts these line breaks when you
>>reach
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>end of a line. They cannot be deleted, although you could change
>>the
>>>>>>margin
>>>>>>>setting.
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 7:50 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [Braillenote] removing line breaks


>>>>>>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>>>>>>> I am trying to remove line breaks from a file. I can see the
>>dollar
>>>>l
>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>> I move the cursor onto it.However, if I press the delete key, it
>>>>>>removes
>>>>>>>> the linebreak joining two words together. If I put a space back
>>in
>>>>so
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>> the words are not joined, the line break comes back.
>>>>>>>> I tried doing a find and replace, but I was told that dollar l
>>was
>>>>>not
>>>>>>>found.
>>>>>>>> How can I get these removed? I am already breaking lines with a
>>>>>dollar
>>>>>>p.
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> Paul Henrichsen
>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> <home.pacbell.net/paulh52



>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>>>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote






>>>>>>>___
>>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote

>>>>>>Paul Henrichsen
>>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>><home.pacbell.net/paulh52



>>>>>>___
>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote


>>>>>>___
>>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote

>>>>>Paul Henrichsen
>>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>><home.pacbell.net/paulh52



>>>>>___
>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote


>>>>>___
>>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote

>>>>Paul Henrichsen
>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>><home.pacbell.net/paulh52


>>>>___
>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote

>>>>___
>>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote

>>> Paul Henrichsen
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> <home.pacbell.net/paulh52



>>> ___
>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>> http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote



>>___
>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote

>Paul Henrichsen
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><home.pacbell.net/paulh52



>___
>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit
>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote


Reply via email to