Dear Paul, You are right. Sighted people use colons in their references and we use number signs.
The BN is a very remarkable "toy" but I think of it as a necessary tool. By and by, things will become second nature to you. Terri, Amateur radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks > Hi, Terri. Thanks for the suggestions. I will bet that whoever put this on > Gutenberg just put it up there as it would appear in print. I'll bet that > is why the verses have colons between chapter and verse number. > I forgot about that find next command. > So many things to learn<grin>. > My family laughingly calls it dad's toy. > At 1/2/2004, you wrote: > > >The "find next" command is read with n. > > > >In literary grade 2 braille, the correct way to write biblical references > >is the write the chapter number followed by a number sign then the verse > >number, example: John 3#16. To get the BN to read this in perfect grade 2 > >braille, replace all the colons with number signs. > > > >I'm generally not a stickler, but I hate seeing biblical references written > >in incorrect braille, especially when a blind person does it. Sighted > >people don't know any better, but blind people who read braille do know > >better. > > > >I hope your Bible is divided into the 66 books. The BN doesn't like large > >files. > > > >Terri, Amateur radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, > >California > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:21 PM > >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks > > > > > > > Hi, Terry. The bible I downloaded from project gutenberg doesn't have > > > chapter headings. What they do is have a title like the gospel according > >to > > > saint matthew. Then they start with one colon one. When they get to > >chapter > > > two, it just starts with a new paragraph then 2 colon one ect. > > > I could find a book, say luke, then do another search for a verse or just > >a > > > chapter by putting in the number and a colon like five colon. > > > I am writing this out since I don't know how your speech would pick things > > > up if I just put 2:. > > > I could also add in, myself the word chapter followed by the numbers for > > > each chapter. > > > I need to look up on the documentation to see if there is a find next > > > function in the bn qt. > > > At 12/31/2003, you wrote: > > > > > > >Here is another idea. Could you just search for the word chapter? > > > >Terry Powers > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Paul Henrichsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:27 PM > > > >To: Braillenote List > > > >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi. That's what I am doing, putting a hard line break inbetween each > >verse > > > >and two in between each chapter. However, sometimes, some verses might > >have > > > >one or two soft line breaks in them. If you use read I or O, it might hit > > > >one of those soft line breaks rather than just tump to the hard line > >break. > > > >The read 7 and 9 work great for umping between chapters. > > > >At 12/30/2003, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Why not let each verse be a sentence by placing one hard return between > > > > >each verse. Then put two between each chapter. Terri already posted > >on > > > > >how to change the bn to sentence mode, so I won't repeat it. Hope this > > > > >helps. I suppose the other thing you could do is make the pages really > > > > >long and put a new page marker between each chapter. I wouldn't do > >that if > > > > >you ever want to print from that file though. Hope that helps or at > >least > > > > >gives you some ideas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:54 AM > > > > >To: Braillenote List > > > > >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] removing line breaks > > > > > > > > > >Hi, Londa. I see what you mean. I was thinking, though, of using the > > > > >paragraphs for chapters and the single lines for versus. If I use > > > > >paragraphs or double returns for verses, I won't have anything to use > >to > > > > >jump by chapter. > > > > >At 12/29/2003, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Paul, > > > > > > > > > > > >You can do this. I have a Bible that is set up this way. The read > >with > > > >u > > > > > >and o see a paragraph as two hard returns. Basically, you would need > >to > > > > > >press enter twice between each verse. It might be better to use a > > > >keyword > > > > > >document. Then you won't have the problem of importing. If you want > >to > > > > > >just hit enter once, you can, but you have to tell the bn what your > > > > > >paragraph boundary is. I can't remember how to do that off the top > >of my > > > > > >head, but I can find it again easily enough if that's what you want. > >You > > > > > >can also set the previous and next thumb-keys to scroll by paragraph. > > > > > From > > > > > >any document, go to the options menu with function with O. Press B > >for > > > > > >Braille display options. Space through the list until you hear, > > > >"function > > > > > >of previous and next thumb-keys?" It will then say what the current > > > > >setting > > > > > >is. Press P for paragraph. I often find that faster for looking > >through > > > > > >the Bible quickly. Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Paul Henrichsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:58 PM > > > > > >To: Braillenote List > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] removing line breaks > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi. What I am trying to do is to work with setting up the old > >testament. > > > > > >What I want to do is to use read u and read o to jump by verse. This > > > >works > > > > > >unless there are line breaks in the text. If there are, read u and o > >jump > > > > > >to those line breaks. Where I should be able to jump between, say, > >verse > > > > > >nine and ten in a chapter, it jumps to those line breaks instead of > > > > >jumping > > > > > >directly to verse ten. > > > > > >I thought that I might be able to fix things so read u and o would > >just > > > > > >jump from one verse to the next. > > > > > >At 12/25/2003, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > > >The BrailleNote automatically inserts these line breaks when you > >reach > > > > >the > > > > > > >end of a line. They cannot be deleted, although you could change > >the > > > > > >margin > > > > > > >setting. > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > >From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 7:50 PM > > > > > > >Subject: [Braillenote] removing line breaks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Everyone. > > > > > > > > I am trying to remove line breaks from a file. I can see the > >dollar > > > >l > > > > > >when > > > > > > > > I move the cursor onto it.However, if I press the delete key, it > > > > > >removes > > > > > > > > the linebreak joining two words together. If I put a space back > >in > > > >so > > > > > >that > > > > > > > > the words are not joined, the line break comes back. > > > > > > > > I tried doing a find and replace, but I was told that dollar l > >was > > > > >not > > > > > > >found. > > > > > > > > How can I get these removed? I am already breaking lines with a > > > > >dollar > > > > > >p. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Paul Henrichsen > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > <home.pacbell.net/paulh52> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > > > > > > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > > > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > > > >Paul Henrichsen > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > ><home.pacbell.net/paulh52> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > >Paul Henrichsen > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > ><home.pacbell.net/paulh52> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > >Paul Henrichsen > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > ><home.pacbell.net/paulh52> > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > >___ > > > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > Paul Henrichsen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > <home.pacbell.net/paulh52> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > > > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > > > > > > >___ > >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > Paul Henrichsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <home.pacbell.net/paulh52> > > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >
