Joy,

Did I say about BN?  Then stop saying about leaving this list!  You know better 
that I was being very specific about the SUCKING VN, NOT BN!  If you say BN, I 
stay here but VN out!

Thank you, Joy.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joy Tilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:40:53 -0700
>Subject: re: [Braillenote] waterproof the BN

>Uh, then it's up to you to leave a list that is talking about the braille 
>note, which happens to come with speech.
>Although, unless one has been made already, it would be nice to see a note 
>taker with just a braille display on it, no speech.  I kind of wonder if it 
>would bring down the price a smidgen.  The Braille Star sounds close to what 
>I'm thinking, although, I think it's just a braille display with a braille 
>keyboard on it, but I'm not all fire sure what all it's used for.


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>On 5/18/2004 at 13:26 Todd Patkus wrote:

>Josh,

>Wait!  You have forgotten one VERY VITALLY IMPORTANT part!  What about
>deafblind who deliberately need Braille?  Please do not talk about these
>DELIBERATELY SUCKING VN!  If you, hearing/blind, want these SUCKING VN, go
>ask PDI to set a COMPLETELY SEPARATE listing for these COMPLETELY SUCKING
>VN!  I do not support them, PERIOD!  It makes me mad, so please y'all
>hearing/blind QUIT talking about these SSSUUUCCCKKKIIINNNGGG speech
>stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>That really SUCKS!  ONLY THINK FIRST BEFORE SAYING SOMETHING!

>Otherwise, yes, we (you and I) have discussed these definitely and strongly
>frustrating issues about PDI a.ing/improving these Bations!  We should
>persistently continue MEDDLING the PDI staff until we get to the point we
>want!

>Sorry if I have spoken so bluntly above but I must without fail speak up
>about these VN.  I am not going to argue but only stand firm against these!

>The blind must without fail listen to us deafblind and must without fail
>understand our strong frustrations you hearing/blind do not understand!
>You, deafblind, understand my sharp frustrations???

>Thank you again.

>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Josh Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>>Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:30:15 -0400 (EDT)
>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] waterproof the BN

>>That would be neat.  then all we'd have to do is buy a voicenote at first,
>and without the braille display when you'd go to turn braille on it would
>say display not found.  Then when you could afford it, pay an extra $2000
>or $3000.00 to buy the detachable braille display.  Good idea.

>>But my more pressing need is that internet browser and email upgrade! they
>need updated and they need more integrated!

>>Josh


>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Mary Ellen Earls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>>>Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:30:51 -0400
>>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] waterproof the BN

>>>Well I have this concern too, Terry.  I am definitely for either the
>removable Braille Display or a cover which can fit over it.  I have tons of
>the finest cookbooks e.  g.  Julia child, for example, which are stored on
>a micro drive.  I can't use these books as it stands because of the Braille
>Display.
>>>If there was a cover the Braille Note would happily be in the kitchen
>with me.
>>>As far as cases for the laptops, Well I have a form fitted zipper bag
>which is made by Targus and it goes over the shoulder and is made of this
>synthetic material which can withstand most anything but fire.
>>>Laptops, as a rule, don't come with cases as the Braillenote does.
>>>But Yes, I would like to see some protection for the Braille display.
>for one thing, it would stay cleaner a lot longer and for another, people
>like me who use mostly speach wouldn't be bother with the thumb keys
>getting in the way.
>>>Mary Ellen Earls


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